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Liverpool vs Fulham

14:00, Sunday 3rd December
Anfield, Liverpool
Premier League
Referee: Stuart Attwell


A busy December begins with Liverpool playing host to Fulham on Sunday, with both sides having secured encouraging results in their first Premier League matches following the final international break of the calendar year. The Reds made the short journey to face recent-era rivals Manchester City last weekend, and returned west with a point following a Trent Alexander-Arnold’s equaliser – the 1-1 draw keeps Jürgen Klopp’s side in touch with the top of the table, just 2 points behind leaders Arsenal. Marco Silva’s side came from behind, lost a lead, and then claimed an injury time winner at home to Wolverhampton Wanderes on Monday – the 3-2 victory moved the Cottagers to 14th, and opened their margin to the bottom three to 10 points. Particularly with these latest results in mind, supporters of both sides can feel they’ve started the season encouragingly – seven rounds of fixtures await during a busy December & festive period, however, and the coming weeks will be pivotal to setting the ultimate aspirations of Liverpool and Fulham for the remainder of the campaign.

Fulham last visited Anfield at the start of May, in a fixture that had been slightly delayed due to the visitors’ participation in the FA Cup Quarter Finals a few weeks prior. Liverpool had gone inbeaten in six matches prior to the meeting, and had claimed four successive victories – their form represented something of a recovery period during what had been a very disappointing season to date, but they still sat 7 points adrift of the top four in 5th. Marco Silva’s side had taken just 6 points from their preceding eight league matches, but they’d come courtesy of wins against relegation-battling Everton and Leeds United – they occupied 10th place, with a 15-point gap to the drop zone guaranteeing them another season on Premier League football. A first-half Mohamed Salah goal from the spot proved to be the only goal of a largely uneventful game on the day – Jürgen Klopp’s side remained unbeaten until the end of the campaign but fell short of the top four, whilst the Cottagers end the season positively (claiming 7 points from their final four, including wins again to-be-relegated Leicester City and Southampton).


Having being promoted to or relegated from the top flight on five occasions in the previous six seasons, Fulham appear the ultimate yo-yo club. Reflecting on their record since securing the [now League One] title in 1999, however, it’s difficult to argue with the suggestion that this is comfortably the most successful period in the club’s history – they’ve spent twenty of the subsequent seasons either in the top flight or being promoted to it, even enjoying a run to the Europa League Final under Roy Hodgson back in 2010. A twenty-four year average position in the league ladder – weighed down by a dismal couple of seasons following their relegation in 2014 – puts them at 17.8, which feels about right. Despite an apparent instability that yo-yoing might suggest, they appear one of a handful of clubs (alongside West Bromwich Albion, Norwich City, and Burnley) who’ve delivered pretty much what’s expected of them over a long period of time, avoiding the boom & bust of the likes of Stoke City, Queens Park Rangers, Hull City, and Huddersfield Town.

Allegations of naivety were put to Fulham during their last couple of appearances in the top flight, as they attempted to maintain the approach that provided success in promotion campaigns in the Championship but in a much tougher top flight. Following promotion under Marco Silva in 2022, they had a much better time of it last season – the season started well (three wins and 11 points from their opening seven matches), and they occupied a very decent 9th place (just 3 points behind Liverpool) by the time the World Cup break came around in mid-November. That break could have proved to be an unwanted disruption to form for a club of Fulham’s stature, but they took four successive victories following the resumption of the league – these wins took them to 6th (with 3 points more than Liverpool) at the midway stage of the season, with their pre-season target if survival all but guaranteed. The aforementioned poor run of spring form (up to & including the trip to Anfield) was likely largely a hangover from Fulham having so comprehensively set about their business last season, but the late season victories against the ultimate bottom four of Everton, Leicester, Leeds, and Southampton, only underlined the good job that Silva’s Fulham did with the campaign, ultimately finishing in an eleven-year best 10th position.


Marco Silva has of course remained at the helm at Craven Cottage into a third season, having delivered exactly what Fulham were looking for following failed attempts in preceding seasons – survival following promotion. Former Wolves forward Raúl Jiménez has effectively replaced long-term Fulham forward Aleksandar Mitrović for this season, whilst Alex Iwobi, Adama Traoré, and Timothy Castagne are the other high profile additions to the squad. Following an opening day victory at Goodison Park, Fulham have been unable to put together any notable run of results this season – they’ve only gone more than a game without defeat on one occasions (following a 1-0 victory over Luton Town with a goalless draw with Crystal Palace). Four wins from thirteen matches is decent for a side who’s priority will once again be to remain in the top flight for next season, though, and a look at their fixtures arguably frames the first third of their season even more positively – they’ve beaten relegation candidates Everton, Luton, and Sheffield United, along with Wolves, and all but one of their defeats (a defeat to Brentford, redeemed by the following week’s draw with Arsenal) appear entirely unremarkable footnotes. Alongside some tougher challenges (matches against Liverpool, Newcastle United, and Arsenal) during the coming weeks, Fulham face Nottingham Forest, West Ham United, Burnley, and Bournemouth before Christmas – it’s the results of matches like these that will determine whether the Cottagers head into the new year preparing for a relegation battle or a more comfortable mid-table finish.


Despite last weekend’s encouraging draw away to Manchester City, injuries to Alisson and Diogo Jota provided a frustrating subtext for Liverpool – both will be out for a number of weeks, joining long-term absentees Andy Robertson, Thiago, and Stefan Bajcetic. The pair will be significant losses for the gruelling December schedule, when triple-points may need to be earned by small margins – the Brazilian ‘keeper is undoubtedly the most reliable last line of defence in world football, whilst the Portuguese forward has a knack of poaching vital goals in tight matches. The last couple of weeks have provided some encouraging signs for the squad though, with Curtis Jones’ return from suspension offering an additional midfield option, Kostas Tzimikas deputising well at left-back, Luis Díaz being amongst the goals for club & country, Darwin Nunez continuing to harass & occupy opponents, and Cody Gakpo netting on a couple of occasions against LASK in midweek. It seems almost a certainty that Mo Salah will score his 200th Liverpool goal during the coming weeks, and Liverpool supporters will hope for a home goal on Sunday as we begin a busy & important month of football.

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Re: Liverpool vs Fulham (Premier League) - 14:00, Sunday 3rd December
« Reply #1 on: December 2, 2023, 01:16:07 pm »
Should be putting these to the sword at Anfield, any win though to continue our push in the league and keep that frightening home record going. All of Fulham's four league victories have been against relegation candidates and after losing Mitrovic they even less potent up front.

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Might have to be a bit of rotation soon but key is putting games to bed early if we can, great chance to do that against your Fulham's and Sheff Utd's of the league. Take your pick at centre half because anybody can play at the minute, Szoboszlai/Mac Allister will be fresh after not featuring midweek too and it only felt like a little run out for all of the forwards really. Just keep the good run going here then on to a couple of aways we have to win if we want to win the title.
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Re: Liverpool vs Fulham (Premier League) - 14:00, Sunday 3rd December
« Reply #2 on: December 2, 2023, 01:49:33 pm »
what kind of weather is expected tomorrow?  seen reports of a lot of ice and snow in parts of England.

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Re: Liverpool vs Fulham (Premier League) - 14:00, Sunday 3rd December
« Reply #3 on: December 2, 2023, 02:17:08 pm »
Referee: Stuart Attwell.
Assistants: Richard West, James Mainwaring.
Fourth official: Tim Robinson.
VAR: Paul Tierney.
Assistant VAR: Adam Nunn.
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Re: Liverpool vs Fulham (Premier League) - 14:00, Sunday 3rd December
« Reply #4 on: December 2, 2023, 02:18:31 pm »
when the hell is Tierney gonna get fucked off?

jesus christ ...

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Re: Liverpool vs Fulham (Premier League) - 14:00, Sunday 3rd December
« Reply #5 on: December 2, 2023, 02:27:05 pm »
Is our game being shown on TV tomorrow?

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Re: Liverpool vs Fulham (Premier League) - 14:00, Sunday 3rd December
« Reply #6 on: December 2, 2023, 02:29:35 pm »
depends on where you live, as per usual.  :)

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Re: Liverpool vs Fulham (Premier League) - 14:00, Sunday 3rd December
« Reply #7 on: December 2, 2023, 03:58:00 pm »
Come on Redmen!!
Thanks for the op Jack. Good info on them, think they have bought well but losing Mitrovic is a loss to them. Agree we will go strong tomorrow and look to get it won by sixty minutes.
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Re: Liverpool vs Fulham (Premier League) - 14:00, Sunday 3rd December
« Reply #8 on: December 2, 2023, 04:08:58 pm »
We will probably start with side that began City game?

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Re: Liverpool vs Fulham (Premier League) - 14:00, Sunday 3rd December
« Reply #9 on: December 2, 2023, 04:13:43 pm »
We will probably start with side that began City game?
Aside from the 2 injuries we picked up? Kelleher and Diaz in for Alisson and Jota?
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Re: Liverpool vs Fulham (Premier League) - 14:00, Sunday 3rd December
« Reply #10 on: December 2, 2023, 04:15:33 pm »
Is our game being shown on TV tomorrow?

No, it isn't.
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Re: Liverpool vs Fulham (Premier League) - 14:00, Sunday 3rd December
« Reply #11 on: December 2, 2023, 04:29:15 pm »
Aside from the 2 injuries we picked up? Kelleher and Diaz in for Alisson and Jota?
Yeah apart from that ;D

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Re: Liverpool vs Fulham (Premier League) - 14:00, Sunday 3rd December
« Reply #12 on: December 2, 2023, 04:33:50 pm »
No, it isn't.

Well that's shite.... didn't we get overlooked for the last 2pm Sunday kick off too for some shite teams...

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Re: Liverpool vs Fulham (Premier League) - 14:00, Sunday 3rd December
« Reply #13 on: December 2, 2023, 04:37:51 pm »
I have watched Fulham a couple of times on the TV in the last few weeks. They aren’t very good at all but they do, how shall we say, actively seek penalties.

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Re: Liverpool vs Fulham (Premier League) - 14:00, Sunday 3rd December
« Reply #14 on: December 2, 2023, 04:39:44 pm »
Well that's shite.... didn't we get overlooked for the last 2pm Sunday kick off too for some shite teams...
I think the games are decided far in advance. Only reason we’re in that slot so much is due to being in the Europa
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Re: Liverpool vs Fulham (Premier League) - 14:00, Sunday 3rd December
« Reply #15 on: December 2, 2023, 04:44:26 pm »
Thanks for the OP jack

Looking forward to this. Should be a comfortable home win, but still gotta go out there and make that happen.

First of a few games we absolutely should be picking up 3 points in before Christmas. Let’s get it done.
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Re: Liverpool vs Fulham (Premier League) - 14:00, Sunday 3rd December
« Reply #16 on: December 2, 2023, 04:49:24 pm »
Thanks for the OP Jack :)

Forgot this was the Roy Hodgson derby :P
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Re: Liverpool vs Fulham (Premier League) - 14:00, Sunday 3rd December
« Reply #18 on: December 2, 2023, 05:13:33 pm »
I have watched Fulham a couple of times on the TV in the last few weeks. They aren’t very good at all but they do, how shall we say, actively seek penalties.
good that Tierney is on VAR then.

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Re: Liverpool vs Fulham (Premier League) - 14:00, Sunday 3rd December
« Reply #19 on: December 2, 2023, 05:17:34 pm »
No, it isn't.
yes it is.


Both wrong.



It goes: Ooooh no it isn't....


Then you reply

Ooooooh yes it is....



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Re: Liverpool vs Fulham (Premier League) - 14:00, Sunday 3rd December
« Reply #20 on: December 2, 2023, 10:26:18 pm »
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Re: Liverpool vs Fulham (Premier League) - 14:00, Sunday 3rd December
« Reply #21 on: December 2, 2023, 10:26:47 pm »
Both wrong.



It goes: Ooooh no it isn't....


Then you reply

Ooooooh yes it is....



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Re: Liverpool vs Fulham (Premier League) - 14:00, Sunday 3rd December
« Reply #22 on: December 2, 2023, 10:48:40 pm »
It's not on Sky or TNT.
sigh.

the football-viewing world doesn't end at the UK border, jill. :)

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Re: Liverpool vs Fulham (Premier League) - 14:00, Sunday 3rd December
« Reply #23 on: December 2, 2023, 10:50:27 pm »
sigh.

the football-viewing world doesn't end at the UK border, jill. :)

It’s a fair shout that it does for someone asking that question given you lucky overseas folk seem to have a choice of every game ever played!

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Re: Liverpool vs Fulham (Premier League) - 14:00, Sunday 3rd December
« Reply #24 on: December 2, 2023, 10:51:02 pm »
It’s a fair shout that it does for someone asking that question given you lucky overseas folk seem to have a choice of every game ever played!

Yep.  :)
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Re: Liverpool vs Fulham (Premier League) - 14:00, Sunday 3rd December
« Reply #25 on: December 2, 2023, 10:52:07 pm »
It’s a fair shout that it does for someone asking that question given you lucky overseas folk seem to have a choice of every game ever played!
yeah fair enough mate.

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Re: Liverpool vs Fulham (Premier League) - 14:00, Sunday 3rd December
« Reply #26 on: December 2, 2023, 11:21:04 pm »
Great OP Jack.
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Re: Liverpool vs Fulham (Premier League) - 14:00, Sunday 3rd December
« Reply #27 on: December 2, 2023, 11:31:27 pm »
Let's twat these Buckingham-bankrupting twats
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Re: Liverpool vs Fulham (Premier League) - 14:00, Sunday 3rd December
« Reply #28 on: December 3, 2023, 04:09:57 am »
Let's twat these Buckingham-bankrupting twats

Couple it with Spurs taking something off City later in the day and it would make for an excellent Sunday.

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Re: Liverpool vs Fulham (Premier League) - 14:00, Sunday 3rd December
« Reply #29 on: December 3, 2023, 08:56:59 am »
Been a great start and time to make it even better, our next 4 have to be 12 points with little problem and 9 coming in the next 6 days. Get it done!!!

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Re: Liverpool vs Fulham (Premier League) - 14:00, Sunday 3rd December
« Reply #30 on: December 3, 2023, 09:07:31 am »
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Re: Liverpool vs Fulham (Premier League) - 14:00, Sunday 3rd December
« Reply #31 on: December 3, 2023, 09:41:29 am »
Let's twat these Buckingham-bankrupting twats

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Re: Liverpool vs Fulham (Premier League) - 14:00, Sunday 3rd December
« Reply #32 on: December 3, 2023, 09:41:44 am »
Tierney and Attwell..... twats.  Hopefully get three points and keep the pressure on the top of the table.  Gakpo seems in good form, who to play up front ?, Salah, Nunez, Gakpo ? Jots is also doing well diaz to make a late appearance surely.  Looking forward to this.
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Re: Liverpool vs Fulham (Premier League) - 14:00, Sunday 3rd December
« Reply #33 on: December 3, 2023, 10:02:18 am »
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Salah   Nunez   Diaz
My guess at the side is this, but with Matip and Jones in for Ibou and Grav.

Think there's an outside chance Gakpo gets a start on the left, but provably not. I wouldn't anyway

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Re: Liverpool vs Fulham (Premier League) - 14:00, Sunday 3rd December
« Reply #34 on: December 3, 2023, 10:33:18 am »
Couple it with Spurs taking something off City later in the day and it would make for an excellent Sunday.

Would be nice but I think Spurs will get battered later.

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Re: Liverpool vs Fulham (Premier League) - 14:00, Sunday 3rd December
« Reply #35 on: December 3, 2023, 12:25:06 pm »
3-0 us

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Re: Liverpool vs Fulham (Premier League) - 14:00, Sunday 3rd December
« Reply #36 on: December 3, 2023, 12:28:41 pm »
It's worth remembering that Marco Silva has managed to avoid defeat to us in four of our seven meetings. I think we will win today but I think we may need to be patient especially if we don't get a goal early on.
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Re: Liverpool vs Fulham (Premier League) - 14:00, Sunday 3rd December
« Reply #37 on: December 3, 2023, 12:29:19 pm »
Should be a pretty comfortable win, all things considered.

Wonder if it’ll be Jones or Gravenberch, hopefully latter and we use Jones away from home on Wednesday.

Important we’re up before halftime so they don’t grow into game but they don’t have much, if any, pace in counter so we should be able to pin them in pretty effectively if we’re sharp.

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Re: Liverpool vs Fulham (Premier League) - 14:00, Sunday 3rd December
« Reply #38 on: December 3, 2023, 12:38:59 pm »
This is the sort of game I’d potentially be playing Elliot or Grav in over Jones. Would much rather Jones in away games and games against the top 6 but at home against bottom half teams I wonder if he does enough creatively.

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Re: Liverpool vs Fulham (Premier League) - 14:00, Sunday 3rd December
« Reply #39 on: December 3, 2023, 12:47:36 pm »
Be interesting to see how Klopp manages team selection over the next week. We’ve rotated heavily in EL and players like VvD have generally been played once a week.

Do we do the same for Fulham-Sheff Utd-Palace with lots of rotation for the middle game? Or full strength each game?  Or rotate more gently between each game (maybe 2-3 changes rather than wholesale)?

I wouldn’t be surprised if we do the latter and we don’t see an absolute full strength side start today.
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