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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #2120 on: April 12, 2012, 06:27:04 pm »
You say so little thought.....


I'm pretty sure a lot of thought went into it, but coming into football with no knowledge about it, who are you going to trust?

You trust who you know, so I don't think it was ill consider.

We must remember they didnt have a football background.


Plus, I think it's better to bolt the door after the horse has bolted than to leave the stable door gaping open again and again.

I was going to say the exact same thing.  They were very new to the football business, and at the time probably only had Cecil's know how to work with.
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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #2121 on: April 12, 2012, 06:27:12 pm »
What rumours

We are getting Messi and Ronaldo. He is worried that Ronaldo won't pass to Messi.
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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #2122 on: April 12, 2012, 06:27:15 pm »
Is the Chelsea Doctor available? I'm all for equal opportunities.  :wave

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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #2123 on: April 12, 2012, 06:27:32 pm »
so all in all damien comolli is has been made the scapegoat for the poor results this season

and i guess kenny has been let off scoff free?

or am i looking too much into it?

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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #2124 on: April 12, 2012, 06:27:58 pm »
good job getting rid of the lawyer, if it was him defending suarez during negrito-gate he fully deserves it
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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #2125 on: April 12, 2012, 06:28:21 pm »
I didn't mean it as a change of strategy in how the club is run, I meant it more than hiring Comolli so quickly with so little vetting is completely out of line with what they've asked to us to expect of them on other issues ranging from the stadium to Hodgson.

There's definitely the case that it was naivety on their part initially, but to such an extent from seemingly astute business people? It is done now so it wouldn't be great to have a go at them for things they can't alter, but hiring someone in such a key role with such little thought is concerning. The hope is that they're now learning from that and we can only wait and see in that regard. What I do think is that there should be some level of culpability on FSG for hiring Comolli initially if they now feel he was the wrong man.

From my point of view, it seems wrong to praise them for ruthlessness in this situation when it was initial recklessness that have forced it.

I understand your point but think you're overstating the case when you say it was a 'reckless' appointment. Commolli is (or was) respected in the game.

Any senior level appointment is a risk and it's sometimes difficult to separate what an individual has done from an overall company strategy. I still see people saying we should have got Peter Kenyon at Liverpool because of the amazing commercial brain he has and what he did at United. He was poached by Chelsea and was eventually sacked.

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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #2126 on: April 12, 2012, 06:28:23 pm »
They have telephones and the internet in America you know.

Do you have the facts to back this statement? I don't think the colonies are allowed this, I could be wrong though.
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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #2127 on: April 12, 2012, 06:28:38 pm »
good job getting rid of the lawyer, if it was him defending suarez during negrito-gate he fully deserves it

Except he is a she.

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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #2128 on: April 12, 2012, 06:28:45 pm »
Anyone?
Don't know if this has been posted elsewhere. but...


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From Kenny Dalglish 'my liverpool home'.

p317. Damien had Luis Suarez on the go before I returned, but he still wanted to know if I was onside with the deal.

"You won't get any resistance from me on Suarez, Damien!"


Suarez's impact was testament to the unbelievable amount of work Damien does on Liverpool's behalf. He oversees scouting, handles the negotiations, has regular conversations with Tom and John about finances. It is a huge role. Some people might have thought I would be a wee bit old school, not liking the idea of working with a director of football, but I've never had a problemm with it. It's straightforward - if I don't want a player to be here, he won't be. I get on with Damien. I don't know what he was like before, but he's been as good as gold with me.

He also says (p318)

The day before the January transfer window closed, Damien said: "What about Andy Carroll?"

"Can you get him?"

Somehow, Damien did manage to get Carroll out of Newcastle United. He did brilliantly to pull off such a deal with time running out.

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So, it's all there for people to read. Incidentally, I reccommend people read the rest of the book, especially those so quick to lay the boot into one of the finest servants of our club. A man who held the club together after two of the worst footballing disasters in history, and is a class act in every way. You might just learn why others support him so ardently.

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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #2129 on: April 12, 2012, 06:28:47 pm »
Is the Chelsea Doctor available? I'm all for equal opportunities.  :wave

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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #2130 on: April 12, 2012, 06:29:22 pm »
good job getting rid of the lawyer, if it was she defending suarez during negrito-gate he fully deserves it
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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #2131 on: April 12, 2012, 06:29:44 pm »
Not fussed about the lawyer going - has done a bang up job in the Suarez affair.

Also Achtenberg had to go. He sort of got the job during a messy period. Hope this means we are getting Valero back; would help our scoring too.
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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #2132 on: April 12, 2012, 06:30:12 pm »
No point in posting up transfer rumours mate.  They're about but we all know how much credence their worth, especially seeing as it's only April.
If it is this that there'll be a revamp and most of the flops will be sold,it can only mean something good.

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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #2133 on: April 12, 2012, 06:30:38 pm »
Except he is a she.

read nigel instead of natalie for some reason...
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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #2134 on: April 12, 2012, 06:30:54 pm »

All of the best people on my staff and all of the best consultants and contractors I work with have come through personal recommendation from people I trust. It's how business is done. And 95% of our work (at least) comes through personal recommendation and repeat work.

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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #2135 on: April 12, 2012, 06:31:02 pm »
My reservations with FSG aren't that they aren't turning things around or haven't already. It's not even that they're directionless because I think that is up for debate. My problem is that they're determined to be seen as innovative, calculated-risk takers. They want us to take them seriously as thinking men in football, where every decision is mulled over and analysed and then if it's still debatable, they're not adverse to taking high risk, high reward option.

They want to be seen as that but all their long-term vision, statistical analysis and innovation saw them appoint director of football because he was friends with Billy Beane. Their same long-term vision and strategy has seen them replace that person after less than a full season. It's a massive mistake. Either he was the right man for the job, in which case you give him a lot of time, even in a bad season - or - he was the wrong man for the job and you appointed him on a whim, flying in the face of your principles and pissing on the idea that the fans should trust you 'cos you're a steady pair of hands, when you're employing people on a whim because they're a mate of a mate who isn't even involved in football!

Given the time frames involved in rescuing the club from H&G's clutches and then the problems we were having on the field, it didn't give them much time to interview a number of people for Comolli's role?

Today's news though has me wondering have they apportioned all of the blame onto Comolli for this season?

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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #2136 on: April 12, 2012, 06:31:16 pm »
This!!!!

We'll be one female down after sacking the lawyer, makes perfect sense! We could get her and Alley Mcbeal.

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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #2137 on: April 12, 2012, 06:31:34 pm »
If we get beat on Saturday is all this going to get the blame for it - unsettling the team ........
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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #2138 on: April 12, 2012, 06:31:59 pm »
good job getting rid of the lawyer, if it was him defending suarez during negrito-gate he fully deserves it
It was a HER. But doesnt matter.

She did a shit job defending Suarez.

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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #2139 on: April 12, 2012, 06:31:59 pm »
Surely some of the media relation people are going to bite the bullet - Ian Cotton?

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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #2140 on: April 12, 2012, 06:32:28 pm »

All of the best people on my staff and all of the best consultants and contractors I work with have come through personal recommendation from people I trust. It's how business is done. And 95% of our work (at least) comes through personal recommendation and repeat work.

They'd have to be good considering you spend most of the day on here! Someones gotta cover for you :p
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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #2141 on: April 12, 2012, 06:32:41 pm »
If we get beat on Saturday is all this going to get the blame for it - unsettling the team ........

I think Howard Webb will have more to do with us winning or losing Saturday.
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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #2142 on: April 12, 2012, 06:32:47 pm »
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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #2143 on: April 12, 2012, 06:33:48 pm »
If we get beat on Saturday is all this going to get the blame for it - unsettling the team ........

I don't see how the team have a reason to be unsettled. It's none of the coaching staff getting the sack. They're not, and shouldn't be affected in the slightest.

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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #2144 on: April 12, 2012, 06:34:25 pm »
Todays statements have been interestingly worded:

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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #2145 on: April 12, 2012, 06:34:32 pm »
Why is everyone suggesting David Dein?  I've no knowledge of Arsenal's finances or whatever under his stewardship, is it because he did well with the Emirates and thus has been linked to us (regarding stadium development)?

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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #2146 on: April 12, 2012, 06:35:56 pm »
Is the Chelsea Doctor available? I'm all for equal opportunities.  :wave

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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #2147 on: April 12, 2012, 06:36:20 pm »
This should not unsettle the team. If it does, we deserve to lose.

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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #2148 on: April 12, 2012, 06:38:00 pm »
If we get beat on Saturday is all this going to get the blame for it - unsettling the team ........

Personally think they should have done this next week are the semi's. Having said that I am sure they would have taken into account what impact if any the "departure" would have on the team.


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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #2149 on: April 12, 2012, 06:38:13 pm »
This should not unsettle the team. If it does, we deserve to lose.

I wouldn't say it would unsettle the team but it does suggest that they need to improve.

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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #2150 on: April 12, 2012, 06:39:38 pm »
I wouldn't say it would unsettle the team but it does suggest that they need to improve.

If they don't know that themselves they shouldn't be here.

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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #2151 on: April 12, 2012, 06:39:42 pm »
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« Reply #2152 on: April 12, 2012, 06:39:50 pm »
Personally think they should have done this next week are the semi's. Having said that I am sure they would have taken into account what impact if any the "departure" would have on the team.



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« Reply #2153 on: April 12, 2012, 06:40:22 pm »
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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #2155 on: April 12, 2012, 06:41:38 pm »
If we get beat on Saturday is all this going to get the blame for it - unsettling the team ........

By some, of course it will. Especially those who are desperate to see the worst regardless of the facts and the reality. This will have fuck all impact on the players. Dos anyone think they go on the pitch thinking "thank fuck Damian Comolli is our Director of Football..." and now that he's gone they'll go to pieces?
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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #2156 on: April 12, 2012, 06:41:50 pm »
Good riddance to 'Moneyball' obsession some fans are preoccupied with.

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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #2157 on: April 12, 2012, 06:42:01 pm »
In a way I'm glad that the owners have said they are unhappy with recent results.  Naturally, we all know they are, but sometimes it's important to make the statement in an effort to draw a line under it.

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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #2158 on: April 12, 2012, 06:42:36 pm »
The media were about to blow the Comolli story wide open so had to act now or face rumour upon rumour (prob including Kennys position) before the game.

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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #2159 on: April 12, 2012, 06:43:40 pm »
Good riddance to 'Moneyball' obsession some fans are preoccupied with.

Moneyball had nowt to do with Comolli.