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duvva 💅 · « **Reply #5200 on:** January 28, 2023, 02:01:07 pm »

Quote from: Gerry Attrick on January 28, 2023, 01:27:46 pm

What a horse race but not the 2 you would expect. That was a sensational ride by Houlihan and what a game horse. He was beat there but he stuck his head down. Wouldn’t want Enurgemene unless he’s a price at Cheltenham. Pan flat when they turned the taps on. No turn of foot whatsoever. Not sure the tactics were the best. He’s a 2 mile stayer.

Energumene was disappointing no doubt. Still Fav, but don’t think you could back him off the back of that. The winner still the biggest of the three for Cheltenham. Think Blue Lord has a good shout now as well

I’d have been happy enough with Delta Work giving all that weight away. Off levels think he’ll be very tough to beat

duvva 💅 · « **Reply #5201 on:** January 28, 2023, 02:13:47 pm »

Really hope they go to the Mares with Epatante

Gerry Attrick · « **Reply #5202 on:** January 28, 2023, 02:34:16 pm »

If GDS is any good he should win the Gold Cup running backwards. Another different winner of a staying chase.

1892tillforever · « **Reply #5203 on:** January 28, 2023, 05:57:46 pm »

Quote from: duvva 💅 on January 28, 2023, 11:59:07 am

Personally I think Tuesday and Wednesday are the best days in terms of the quality of the races. The Friday is always busiest as they let more in. Club tickets are already sold out for the Friday, so you’ve got even less options.

It's what I thought to be honest. Anyway I'm considering Irish gold cup day at leopardstown next Saturday since it's only 2 hours away from me by bus and Luas. Any tips lads

duvva 💅 · « **Reply #5204 on:** January 28, 2023, 06:45:14 pm »

Quote from: 1892tillforever on January 28, 2023, 05:57:46 pm

It's what I thought to be honest. Anyway I'm considering Irish gold cup day at leopardstown next Saturday since it's only 2 hours away from me by bus and Luas. Any tips lads

I actually looked into the two days this year, think I may next year. The quality looks off the scale this year. Just back Mullins at the DRF is usually the way to go but they aren’t always much of a price

1892tillforever · « **Reply #5205 on:** January 28, 2023, 07:52:19 pm »

Quote from: duvva 💅 on January 28, 2023, 06:45:14 pm

I actually looked into the two days this year, think I may next year. The quality looks off the scale this year. Just back Mullins at the DRF is usually the way to go but they aren’t always much of a price

Already checked Galopin Des Champs; 4/9 to win

Yes, there are loads of top notch runners, I was quite surprised by it.

duvva 💅 · « **Reply #5206 on:** January 28, 2023, 09:10:00 pm »

Quote from: 1892tillforever on January 28, 2023, 07:52:19 pm

Already checked Galopin Des Champs; 4/9 to win

Yes, there are loads of top notch runners, I was quite surprised by it.

Final decs won’t be out until Thu/Fri so just be careful if you back anything earlier in case they’re not declared

1892tillforever · « **Reply #5207 on:** January 28, 2023, 09:16:41 pm »

Quote from: duvva 💅 on January 28, 2023, 09:10:00 pm

Final decs won’t be out until Thu/Fri so just be careful if you back anything earlier in case they’re not declared

Thanks for the advice mate. Yeah I'll wait till Friday. Not been to a racecourse in Ireland before. Went three times to Leicester when I lived there. Enjoyed the days even though it was egg and spoon stuff

Last ever race I watched in the UK, a horse I backed won at 20/1.

aedge659 · « **Reply #5208 on:** January 30, 2023, 02:19:05 pm »

Skybet have Jonbon & Constitution Hill Double @ 7/2 currently if any of you fancy in, very good value in my opinion.

duvva 💅 · « **Reply #5209 on:** January 30, 2023, 03:37:49 pm »

Quote from: aedge659 on January 30, 2023, 02:19:05 pm

Skybet have Jonbon & Constitution Hill Double @ 7/2 currently if any of you fancy in, very good value in my opinion.

That is decent value, no better than 2/1 elsewhere. How much for £20?

Although this usually means they expect one to get beat, presumably Jonbon

aedge659 · « **Reply #5210 on:** January 30, 2023, 05:59:08 pm »

Quote from: duvva 💅 on January 30, 2023, 03:37:49 pm

That is decent value, no better than 2/1 elsewhere. How much for £20?

Although this usually means they expect one to get beat, presumably Jonbon

Yeah max £20 Duv. I see it as a 7/2 bet on Jonbon, may possibly cover someone else in the Arkle depending on the market on the day of the race.

Crouch Potato · « **Reply #5211 on:** January 30, 2023, 08:46:42 pm »

Thanks for that info, just stuck £20 on.

Keep us updated if any other Sky offers in next week or so, they tend to offer shit prices on the day, but some of their increased price offers are decent.

aedge659 · « **Reply #5212 on:** January 30, 2023, 09:33:22 pm »

Quote from: Crouch Potato on January 30, 2023, 08:46:42 pm

Thanks for that info, just stuck £20 on.

Keep us updated if any other Sky offers in next week or so, they tend to offer shit prices on the day, but some of their increased price offers are decent.

No worries, I use several sites and that one caught my eye, Sky do a countdown every week in the lead up to the festival, so the next decent one should be next Monday.

Be better when a few more bookies start doing NRNB.

duvva 💅 · « **Reply #5213 on:** February 2, 2023, 01:05:52 pm »

Think Dysart Dynamo a decent bet for the Irish Arkle this Saturday, seems a more speedier type than Appreciate It to me.

Bumper should be quite revealing as well Thomas Mullins Fascile Mode seems very well regarded, so much so it’s Fav despite there being good runners from Willie and Gordon.

Would like to see Sandor Clegane run well for Paul Nolan, looks a hottish race but 11/2 seems fair

duvva 💅 · « **Reply #5214 on:** February 4, 2023, 09:12:51 am »

Seems seems be no love Sandor Clegane out to 9/1. Fascile Mode drifting as a couple of others backed in the bumper.

Happy to take 7/2 on Dysart Dynamo.

1892tillforever · « **Reply #5215 on:** February 4, 2023, 09:53:25 am »

Quote from: duvva 💅 on February 4, 2023, 09:12:51 am

Seems seems be no love Sandor Clegane out to 9/1. Fascile Mode drifting as a couple of others backed in the bumper.

Happy to take 7/2 on Dysart Dynamo.

I was thinking American Mike in the opener but have decided against it; will likely do Quais De Paris instead even though Sandor Clegane's price is probably too wide. Yes, I like Dysart Dynamo at that price.

Gerry Attrick · « **Reply #5216 on:** February 4, 2023, 12:35:31 pm »

Looking forward to GDC but he’d want to be winning by a furlong against these.

Gerry Attrick · « **Reply #5217 on:** February 4, 2023, 02:50:41 pm »

A 25 year old Appreciate It went off favourite for some reason. We’ll never know it. El Fabiolo is a proper type but we knew that after running Jonbon so close in Liverpool.

duvva 💅 · « **Reply #5218 on:** February 4, 2023, 02:59:21 pm »

Quote from: Gerry Attrick on February 4, 2023, 02:50:41 pm

A 25 year old Appreciate It went off favourite for some reason. We’ll never know it. El Fabiolo is a proper type but we knew that after running Jonbon so close in Liverpool.

Think Appreciate It will go up in trip could never lay up but that’s no real surprise. Disappointed in Dysart Dynamo, don’t know if he went too quick or that’s as good as he is. Very good from El Fabiolo, on the Whole jumped a lot better than on debut

duvva 💅 · « **Reply #5219 on:** February 4, 2023, 03:32:46 pm »

Quote from: Gerry Attrick on February 4, 2023, 12:35:31 pm

Looking forward to GDC but he’d want to be winning by a furlong against these.

Not blown away by that but he’s won going away.

1892tillforever · « **Reply #5220 on:** February 4, 2023, 07:20:50 pm »

Quote from: duvva 💅 on February 4, 2023, 03:32:46 pm

Not blown away by that but he’s won going away.

Fury Road pushed him. That mistake at the last ended any chance of a shock, unimpressed by GDC. Big money went on Appreciate It on the course some on course bookies had him at evens at race time!

Lossiemouth was a shocker, being impeded didn't help but never looked like winning.

I enjoyed the day although it was mega packed. I'll go back on a quieter day. I had the winner on the last 3 which is always nice. A longish odds winner in the last race in the pissing rain brought back memories of Leicester 😁

duvva 💅 · « **Reply #5221 on:** February 5, 2023, 12:27:22 pm »

Another top class day of racing. Am tempted by Honeysuckle and James Du Berlais probably just watch though.

Think we’ll find out how good Facile Vega is today, and if Blue Lord wins like he did at Christmas wouldn’t be surprised to see him made fav for the Champion Chase. The Irish Champion hurdle looks a great race on paper and should show us who is most likely to finish second to Constitution Hill

Having watched GDC again I think he was better than I initially thought. Came away well at the end and seemed full of running so every chance he stays the GC distance. He looks the most likely winner in an underwhelming group for me. Probably doing him a disservice as he’s not as flashy as he looked as a novice.

Fiasco · « **Reply #5222 on:** February 5, 2023, 12:47:45 pm »

I think Vauban could be overpriced today. Beaten by State Man last time out but the ride wasn't great and was forced to switch, and he was having his first run of the season. Fair to say he was fresh the whole way too.

Given improvement I wouldn't be shocked to see him go a lot closer to State Man today. Honeysuckle notwithstanding

Gerry Attrick · « **Reply #5223 on:** February 5, 2023, 12:49:46 pm »

Actually think this has been the worst DRF so far. Lots of good horses but they’re going off short prices because they’re in uncompetitive fields.

duvva 💅 · « **Reply #5224 on:** February 5, 2023, 01:05:35 pm »

Quote from: Gerry Attrick on February 5, 2023, 12:49:46 pm

Actually think this has been the worst DRF so far. Lots of good horses but they’re going off short prices because they’re in uncompetitive fields.

There are a lot of shortys but I’d only say the Dublin Chase looks uncompetitive today. Two of the shortys got turned over yesterday too so I think it’s more the bookies not taking any chances which means there should be value elsewhere

duvva 💅 · « **Reply #5225 on:** February 5, 2023, 01:54:29 pm »

That was good from Mighty Potter, not sure I’ve given him enough credit up til now

duvva 💅 · « **Reply #5226 on:** February 5, 2023, 02:23:14 pm »

2mile division as clear as mud

Another shorty beaten, but you couldn’t have called it on Gentleman De Mee’s form over fences so far. Was beaten over 40 lengths by Blue Lord last time. Although he was better in the Spring last year after a slow start

FlashGordon · « **Reply #5227 on:** February 5, 2023, 03:17:43 pm »

Yeah State Man is a serious serious animal.

duvva 💅 · « **Reply #5228 on:** February 5, 2023, 03:18:25 pm »

State Man could maybe get Constitution Hill off the bridle

Gerry Attrick · « **Reply #5229 on:** February 5, 2023, 03:20:33 pm »

Good news. Bookies might be more tempted to take Constitution Hill on. Means we’ll get to win more when he pisses up.

duvva 💅 · « **Reply #5230 on:** February 5, 2023, 03:23:47 pm »

Quote from: Gerry Attrick on February 5, 2023, 03:20:33 pm

Good news. Bookies might be more tempted to take Constitution Hill on. Means we’ll get to win more when he pisses up.

Shortened State Man but Constitution Hill is unchanged best priced 1/3

Gerry Attrick · « **Reply #5231 on:** February 5, 2023, 03:24:34 pm »

Quote from: duvva 💅 on February 5, 2023, 03:23:47 pm

Shortened State Man but Constitution Hill is unchanged best priced 1/3

On the day I bet some of them will try to get him beat. Be amazed if we can’t get some small amounts at at least even money.

FlashGordon · « **Reply #5232 on:** February 5, 2023, 03:25:21 pm »

We shall see boys. I'd be confident sending Shetland ponies over to win at Cheltenham these days.

Gerry Attrick · « **Reply #5233 on:** February 5, 2023, 03:29:41 pm »

He’s a good horse but Constitution Hill could be an all-timer. Not many British certainties but I think Constitution Hill is. If Henderson decides to ever run one of course.

duvva 💅 · « **Reply #5234 on:** February 5, 2023, 03:30:16 pm »

Quote from: FlashGordon on February 5, 2023, 03:25:21 pm

We shall see boys. I'd be confident sending Shetland ponies over to win at Cheltenham these days.

I think you’ll dominate again this year but not to quite the same extent as the last few. But as good as State Man looks I think he may just push Constitution Hill to greater things

Crouch Potato · « **Reply #5235 on:** February 5, 2023, 03:51:36 pm »

Quite a day of shocks, making Cheltenham even more muddled.

duvva 💅 · « **Reply #5236 on:** February 5, 2023, 03:54:11 pm »

Thoughts on Facile Vega? Too bad to be true or did he and High Definition get racing too early and he had nothing left

Sounds like Honeysuckle will go for the Mares

Gerry Attrick · « **Reply #5237 on:** February 5, 2023, 03:58:09 pm »

Quote from: duvva 💅 on February 5, 2023, 03:54:11 pm

Thoughts on Facile Vega? Too bad to be true or did he and High Definition get racing too early and he had nothing left

Sounds like Honeysuckle will go for the Mares

Not sure. He beat nothing as a bumper horse though.

Crouch Potato · « **Reply #5238 on:** February 5, 2023, 04:00:43 pm »

Looked to me like the attentions of High Definition caused Facile Vega to race a bit freely.

duvva 💅 · « **Reply #5239 on:** February 5, 2023, 04:33:47 pm »

Quote from: Crouch Potato on February 5, 2023, 04:00:43 pm

Looked to me like the attentions of High Definition caused Facile Vega to race a bit freely.

Yeah I felt they were going too fast and he got lit up, he beat the winner easy enough at Christmas. Not ideal going into Cheltenham, don’t think many (any) Supreme winners finished 5th last time out.