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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #5120 on: December 3, 2022, 05:28:01 pm »
Cracking day of racing again. Agree on Shiskin, can't see me backing him next time. Jonbon looking better and better with each race and very impressed with Ashtown Lad.

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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #5121 on: December 3, 2022, 07:04:32 pm »
Indeed, really impressive from Edwardstone. Shishkin wasnít really at it from the start, maybe wants further, but still didnít look quite right
Starting to suspect that Edwardstone might be better than being a smart horse! Intrigued to see what he does this season. COnsidered backing him but felt he would be outgunned by the big two.

I saw a horse called Marvellous Mick racing today at Chepstow. We've all seen horses run 'green' on debut, but this was quite a watch. The horse was all over the shop and still won by over 3 lengths  ;D
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« Reply #5122 on: December 4, 2022, 03:23:25 pm »
Honeysuckle finally beaten. Not sure the way the race was run suited her but she seemed to be missing her spark. Interested to hear what they say
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« Reply #5123 on: December 4, 2022, 03:30:56 pm »
Iím not sure to be honest. Iíd forgive her one bad run but getting 7lb and getting beat by Teahupoo doesnít augur well. Sheís rarely been spectacular though, it has to be said.

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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #5124 on: December 16, 2022, 05:41:29 pm »
The King George card on Boxing Day is shaping up very nicely. LíHomme Presse looks like taking on Bravemansgame. Constitution Hill and Epatante in the Christmas Hurdle and the rearranged Long Walk Hurdle with Champ and Paisley Park.

Was half considering going, but really tempted now
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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #5125 on: December 17, 2022, 03:05:19 pm »
Dettori is giving it up at the end of next year. Iím interested to see what Gosden will do, will he give it to Havlin (surely not), go for a Hollie Doyle or James Doyle or just spread it around.

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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #5126 on: December 17, 2022, 06:23:20 pm »
Dettori is giving it up at the end of next year. Iím interested to see what Gosden will do, will he give it to Havlin (surely not), go for a Hollie Doyle or James Doyle or just spread it around.

Havlin will continue in his current role, especially when particular riding instructions are given. Wouldnít be surprised if itís Hollie, but a wildcard might br Oisin Murphy if he stays out of trouble on his return 
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« Reply #5127 on: December 18, 2022, 07:55:21 pm »
Davy called it a day this afternoon. For those in the know, that is the biggest sporting story of the day. What a truly fantastic career.
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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #5128 on: December 19, 2022, 08:32:13 am »
Galopin Des Champs and Appreciate It out today on the rearranged Punchestown card.

Russell was still quality, but that was a really bad injury he got last time, good to get out in one piece more or less
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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #5129 on: December 19, 2022, 11:57:05 am »
Galopin Des Champs would want to be putting this lot to sleep easy enough if theyíve hopes of winning a Gold Cup.

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« Reply #5130 on: December 19, 2022, 02:18:13 pm »
Galopin Des Champs would want to be putting this lot to sleep easy enough if theyíve hopes of winning a Gold Cup.
Smooth as youíd like

Edit: and Jonbon might have a rival in Appreciate It
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« Reply #5131 on: December 20, 2022, 06:30:33 pm »
Mullins looks to have a good one for the Ballymore in Impaire et Passe. Not sure what was behind him but they way he went clear after a tap was quite impressive
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« Reply #5132 on: December 21, 2022, 11:48:51 am »
Very nice start over fences for El Fabiolo. I think heís the main danger to Jonbon. Only beat a neck at Aintree and that was only El Fabioloís second run. I just donít like Appreciate it as a horse, he only looks decent in novice events against horses heís much older than. 9 years old and running in the Arkle is a farce.

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« Reply #5133 on: December 21, 2022, 12:38:06 pm »
There wasnít much between them at Aintree and perhaps there wonít be much over fences. El Fabiolo is probably the safer bet anyway as heís pretty much guaranteed to go Arkle whereas Appreciate It could potentially step up in trip. Also Sir Gerhard still to come out could go for either race although more likely the 2m4f.
I get what youíre saying about Appreciate It but that Supreme win was impressive and Edwardstone bucked the trend for younger winners last year. At least itís shaping up like a competitive race which often it isnít
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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #5134 on: December 21, 2022, 12:56:10 pm »
I just donít like the fact you can run one at that age in any novice race. Heís at his peak age. Heíd qualify for veterans chases in 2024. The novice hurdles and novice chases should be limited to 7 year olds, after that if youíve not run in a novice, tough. Get in a handicap, a horses frame should be fully developed by 8.

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« Reply #5135 on: December 23, 2022, 12:08:14 pm »
Just seen that Cue Card has died at the age of 16 from a heart attack.

What a brilliant horse he was
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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #5136 on: December 26, 2022, 11:29:06 am »
I think Envoi Allen is the bet in the King George.

High Definition, the one time Derby favourite is starting out over timber for Joseph today. Not many pedigrees like that go jumping and heís still an entire. Willie seems to have a well touted one thatís odds on though.

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« Reply #5137 on: December 26, 2022, 11:40:04 am »
I think Envoi Allen is the bet in the King George.

High Definition, the one time Derby favourite is starting out over timber for Joseph today. Not many pedigrees like that go jumping and heís still an entire. Willie seems to have a well touted one thatís odds on though.
Itís a very decent King George and I canít make my mind up but would like to see LíHomme Presse win as he looks like potentially the best of last seasons novices in this country at least.

Yep clocked High Definition, interesting to see how he goes. Also think Paisley Park is overpriced at Kempton although he has shortened a bit now

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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #5138 on: December 26, 2022, 01:04:14 pm »
Nice picks Duv. That is the most Paisley Park win of all. Hit a real flat spot turning in but finished stronger than anything. Think Goshen ran creditably too. Heís just in between in terms of trips and class.

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« Reply #5139 on: December 26, 2022, 01:24:17 pm »
Lossiemouth looks a real nice sort.

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« Reply #5140 on: December 26, 2022, 01:30:19 pm »
High Definition got the job done thanks to two missing hurdles more than anything I think. Lossiemouth certainly seems the pick of the juveniles so far. Came away nicely there.

Just fancied Paisley Park to turn the tables given the ground and couldnít believe he went out as far as 5/1 yesterday
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« Reply #5141 on: December 26, 2022, 02:00:43 pm »
Constitution Hill is just ridiculous
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« Reply #5142 on: December 26, 2022, 02:40:51 pm »
You just canít beat Nicholls record in the King George. LíHomme Presse will be better at Cheltenham. Will Bravemansgame even go to Cheltenham
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« Reply #5143 on: December 26, 2022, 02:41:58 pm »
Probably not, I suspect Nicholls will make him like Clan Des Obeaux. Bit of an unsatisfactory result for me, I just donít like the horse.

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« Reply #5144 on: December 26, 2022, 02:49:30 pm »
Probably not, I suspect Nicholls will make him like Clan Des Obeaux. Bit of an unsatisfactory result for me, I just donít like the horse.
Yeah Iím not sure there was anything to trouble Galopin there, or A Plus Tard if he can get back to his best
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Re: The Horse Racing thread
« Reply #5145 on: December 26, 2022, 02:52:17 pm »
The Gold Cup division has really lacked a Kauto Star type dominant horse for a long time. They take it in turns and when you think they hit form they bomb out. Find it a very difficult group to weigh up. I have no idea what will win if they all face off again.

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« Reply #5146 on: December 27, 2022, 01:15:11 pm »
Blue Lord just put up a clear career best. He looked the winner eveywhere.

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« Reply #5147 on: December 27, 2022, 01:38:55 pm »
Blue Lord just put up a clear career best. He looked the winner eveywhere.
Yep done that very well. Chacun on the other hand looks done
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« Reply #5148 on: December 27, 2022, 01:41:32 pm »
Yep done that very well. Chacun on the other hand looks done

He made a right horlicks of 3 out and after that, he was cooked. I suspect he will struggle to win another Grade 1. Just not got the toe of the up and comers

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« Reply #5149 on: December 27, 2022, 01:51:06 pm »
Facile Vega didnít look that good. If I had a top class one I wouldnít be that scared of him. Over hurdles heís looked far more vulnerable.

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« Reply #5150 on: December 27, 2022, 01:52:59 pm »
Facile Vega didnít look that good. If I had a top class one I wouldnít be that scared of him. Over hurdles heís looked far more vulnerable.
I wouldnít be in a rush to oppose him, I think the first 3 could all be very good. Think Ashroe Diamond could have a very good chance if aimed at the Mares depending what else runs

Just realised Iím talking rubbish here. Ashroe is a novice still. Thereís a decent one of Hendersonís in there but sheís 6/1 second fav and think thatís a decent price (as much as any single figure price is decent This far out)
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« Reply #5151 on: December 27, 2022, 02:37:23 pm »
Well that was disappointing from Edwardstone. I wonder if Tom Cannon was holding him back too much, as he went to the back didnít jump well then unshipped Cannon. Ran well after that :)
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« Reply #5152 on: December 28, 2022, 06:07:45 pm »
Not sure what to make of todays racing. I think thereís a few results in Ireland that wouldnít stand up at Cheltenham or a big spring meeting.

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« Reply #5153 on: December 28, 2022, 06:46:57 pm »
Not sure what to make of todays racing. I think thereís a few results in Ireland that wouldnít stand up at Cheltenham or a big spring meeting.
I know what you mean. Thought Conflated was good but surely thereís something better in terms of the gold cup. The 3 mile hurdle division is a bit of a mess too.

2 years ago De Bromhead had a whole bunch of top class horses and looked to be up there with Elliott and Mullins but the best ones seem to have either regressed or have issues. Feel sorry for him given everything thatís happened the last few months
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« Reply #5154 on: December 28, 2022, 06:54:13 pm »
I know what you mean. Thought Conflated was good but surely thereís something better in terms of the gold cup. The 3 mile division is a bit of a mess too.

2 years ago De Bromhead had a whole bunch of top class horses and looked to be up there with Elliott and Mullins but the best ones seem to have either regressed or have issues. Feel sorry for him given everything thatís happened the last few months

Once Galopin des Champs stays upright he wins the Gold Cup on the bridle.

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Facile Vega is a monster though Gerry. You'd want to be very scared  ;D
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« Reply #5155 on: December 28, 2022, 07:06:41 pm »
Just considering whether Vauban is worth ago tomorrow. Clearly Mullins doesnít really want to start him out in a race like this but if heís going to be a CH horse (despite only being about to turn 5) then he must be in with a shout.

He looked very classy last season but as we know 5 yr olds tend to struggle, just thought he may be one to buck the trend
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« Reply #5156 on: December 29, 2022, 01:54:49 pm »
Just considering whether Vauban is worth ago tomorrow. Clearly Mullins doesnít really want to start him out in a race like this but if heís going to be a CH horse (despite only being about to turn 5) then he must be in with a shout.

He looked very classy last season but as we know 5 yr olds tend to struggle, just thought he may be one to buck the trend

Wouldn't be able to choose between him and State Man to be honest, probably worth a punt at the prices.
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« Reply #5157 on: December 29, 2022, 01:56:48 pm »
Jack Kennedy just elbowed Blackmore off her horse there. You canít be using another rider to try and maintain a partnership with your horse. If it puts in a shoddy leap get out the side door and take it. Would hope the stewards are having a good look.

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« Reply #5158 on: December 29, 2022, 02:08:03 pm »
Jack Kennedy just elbowed Blackmore off her horse there. You canít be using another rider to try and maintain a partnership with your horse. If it puts in a shoddy leap get out the side door and take it. Would hope the stewards are having a good look.
Carnage at that fence. Not sure whether that has anything to do with the Gigginstown horse breaking down. I couldnít tell whether Jack just instinctively tried to push off Amirite and Blackmore as he began to lose balance C and fall that way. If there was anything deliberate there then thatís very dangerous.

Did Three Stripe Life get up? If not thatís an horrific race
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« Reply #5159 on: December 29, 2022, 02:10:58 pm »
Carnage at that fence. Not sure whether that has anything to do with the Gigginstown horse breaking down. I couldnít tell whether Jack just instinctively tried to push off Amirite and Blackmore as he began to lose balance C and fall that way. If there was anything deliberate there then thatís very dangerous.

Did Three Stripe Life get up? If not thatís an horrific race

Yeah, a race to forget. Just ugly to watch from start to finish. The horse that was going best got shoved off by Kennedy.