Topic: Man City - cheating bastards rumbled

[Dim Glas]

not sure if it’s Abu Dhabi but they’re looking at building an indoor arena (a few thousand more than the main arena is now) around the etihad stadium, genuinely don’t see the point of doing that with a very well established one a few miles away in a much better location (which I think were looking to expand it), you could argue that a 7-10k one would be a good idea (a lot of the boxing at Manchester arena only uses the lower tier), something the size of the copper box in London (around 7k from memory) would be really good for boxing, basketball, smaller concerts but that’s a bit mad, even if I do like the look of it

https://www.eastlandsarena-consult.com/

I think that company is a US company, they are behind the arena for the new NHL team that’s coming to Seattle.

But it’s such a ridiculously frivolous idea, like you say the city has an established arena.

And yes - IF they where to build one, make it far smaller capacity. Manchester used to have an ice hockey team that got good support, but couldn’t sustain playing at the large arena in town. So now Manchester’s ice hockey team plays at a dump of a rink in Altricham that was supposed to just be a temporary structure. If a company wants to bring in a new arena to that city, make it one that has an ice floor, and can house a hockey team.

[Jm55]

Decision by CAS to be announced in the first half of July -

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11679/12004199/man-citys-uefa-ban-appeal-to-be-decided-by-cas-in-july

[Lycan]

They're going to get away with this. I can see it now.

https://twitter.com/GaryJamesWriter/status/1270728429747556353/photo/1

[Lush is the best medicine...]

They're going to get away with this. I can see it now.

https://twitter.com/GaryJamesWriter/status/1270728429747556353/photo/1

why, it was always a three day hearing

[WhereAngelsPlay]

why, it was always a three day hearing

[BondysNiners]

The quickness of the decision alludes to one of 2 scenarios;

1) overwhelming evidence and the guilty verdict is easy to attain

2) Absolutely no evidence and no case to answer.

[WhoHe]

3. They have threatened non-stop legal action against UEFA and named individuals, this happened to one of the UK athetics bodies which went skint and folded. Maybe just good old fashioned bribery, when you have the money they have then you have many options.

[Jm55]

The quickness of the decision alludes to one of 2 scenarios;

1) overwhelming evidence and the guilty verdict is easy to attain

2) Absolutely no evidence and no case to answer.

There’s no decision and there won’t be until July.

This is just the hearing stage.

It’s also worth noting that this is not a case of guilty vs not guilty, it’s not even a case of whether UEFA have reached the correct decision.

The CAS appeal is based on whether or not UEFA have followed correct procedure in reaching their decision ( not whether or not following that procedure resulted in reaching the correct decision.) the distinction is quite a fine one but it can make a big difference in what the eventual result is.

The city fan quoting it on Twitter is talking absolute bollocks as the two things are completely different. UEFA collected evidence over a period of time and then cross checked that evidence before arriving a a decision (which he didn’t like.) There was no ‘hearing’ period for UEFA as UEFA were not making a legal decision, they were making an internal one which is now being challenged in its legality hy City.

[BondysNiners]

There’s no decision and there won’t be until July.

This is just the hearing stage.

It’s also worth noting that this is not a case of guilty vs not guilty, it’s not even a case of whether UEFA have reached the correct decision.

The CAS appeal is based on whether or not UEFA have followed correct procedure in reaching their decision ( not whether or not following that procedure resulted in reaching the correct decision.) the distinction is quite a fine one but it can make a big difference in what the eventual result is.

The city fan quoting it on Twitter is talking absolute bollocks as the two things are completely different. UEFA collected evidence over a period of time and then cross checked that evidence before arriving a a decision (which he didn’t like.) There was no ‘hearing’ period for UEFA as UEFA were not making a legal decision, they were making an internal one which is now being challenged in its legality hy City.

I was referring to the short period until the CAS give their verdict, 3-4 weeks is very short for a very complex case like this.

[exiledintheUSA]

I was referring to the short period until the CAS give their verdict, 3-4 weeks is very short for a very complex case like this.

Only takes 3-4 weeks for some dodgy shadow company to make a few financial offers and the decision will be set.

[Jm55]

I was referring to the short period until the CAS give their verdict, 3-4 weeks is very short for a very complex case like this.

As you touch on in your original post, the complexity of the case depends on the facts and the evidence.

Honestly, money talks, both UEFA and City want this decided in good time before next season’s CL and therefore it will be.

[TepidT2O]

It’s not a complex case is it though?

They aren’t appealing against the decision, just whether the uefa investigating panel and Referring panel followed procedure properly. Isn’t that right?

[jillcwhomever]

It’s not a complex case is it though?

They aren’t appealing against the decision, just whether the uefa investigating panel and Referring panel followed procedure properly. Isn’t that right?

Exactly, its not as if they've ever denied the emails are genuine.

[red_Mark1980]

Exactly, its not as if they've ever denied the emails are genuine.

That's always the thing that I've wondered why no-one in the press has made a big deal out of it.

The main gripe is that the emails were obtained illegally. I'd have thought this would be in every story, you know given how the media hate city and all journos are Liverpool fans 🧐

[12C]

They're going to get away with this. I can see it now.

https://twitter.com/GaryJamesWriter/status/1270728429747556353/photo/1

Gary is blue

[jillcwhomever]

That's always the thing that I've wondered why no-one in the press has made a big deal out of it.

The main gripe is that the emails were obtained illegally. I'd have thought this would be in every story, you know given how the media hate city and all journos are Liverpool fans 🧐

To be fair some journalists have, remember the one who asked the question of Guardiola in that PC? There have been some others too, Delaney has done quite a few on this subject. As in all things some journalists don't like to rock the boat or they feel they will get pushed out, if they ask too many awkward questions. I also get the impression that some are a bit thick and maybe don't understand the financial aspect of it. Basically, everyone knows they are guilty as charged, lets see what happens.

[red_Mark1980]

To be fair some journalists have, remember the one who asked the question of Guardiola in that PC? There have been some others too, Delaney has done quite a few on this subject. As in all things some journalists don't like to rock the boat or they feel they will get pushed out, if they ask too many awkward questions. I also get the impression that some are a bit thick and maybe don't understand the financial aspect of it. Basically, everyone knows they are guilty as charged, lets see what happens.

I know Delaney has been the most vocal. But everytime I read "city are arguing the emails were obtained illegally" the piece should be making more of that.

Anyway, they'll get off. I'm sure of it

[12C]

I know Delaney has been the most vocal. But everytime I read "city are arguing the emails were obtained illegally" the piece should be making more of that.

Anyway, they'll get off. I'm sure of it

“My Lord, my client doesn’t deny that his fingerprints are on the gun, but argues that the sneak who told the police where the gun was, acted illegally and is a big grass!”

[jillcwhomever]

Graham Dunbar
@gdunbarap

At the end of the 3-day hearing, CAS confirms 2 of the 3 judges also sat on the first Man City appeal that dismissed  attempts to throw out UEFA's case on procedural grounds.

[sinnermichael]

Guardiola moaning about his players having to return to playing so soon. I'm sure he'd be saying exactly the same if his team were 25 points clear.

[redgriffin73]

Bless them, have they had less time than the rest of the teams or something? Or is it just because he's realised how fat they all are from lockdown?

[TepidT2O]

Graham Dunbar
@gdunbarap

At the end of the 3-day hearing, CAS confirms 2 of the 3 judges also sat on the first Man City appeal that dismissed  attempts to throw out UEFA's case on procedural grounds.

Means nothing.

They were considering a different question.

[rafathegaffa83]

Guardiola moaning about his players having to return to playing so soon. I'm sure he'd be saying exactly the same if his team were 25 points clear.

He's had 3.5 weeks. How fucking long does he want?

[Kekule]

Guardiola moaning about his players having to return to playing so soon. I'm sure he'd be saying exactly the same if his team were 25 points clear.

Manchester City are, of course, unique in having to return to playing football after 3 months off.  Everyone else has been playing a competitive match or two a week like normal.

[Red Beret]

Guardiola moaning about his players having to return to playing so soon. I'm sure he'd be saying exactly the same if his team were 25 points clear.

Somebody isn't confident about playing Arsenal.

[TepidT2O]

This new coach Lilo ......Assuming it isn't a stitch up, will either make their next phase or break them.

Some Say he might make Guardiola stay on, others say that he so intransigent in his tactics that it might cause issues.

It will be interesting.  Maybe he replaces Pep in a year??

[rafathegaffa83]

This new coach Lilo ......Assuming it isn't a stitch up, will either make their next phase or break them.

Some Say he might make Guardiola stay on, others say that he so intransigent in his tactics that it might cause issues.

It will be interesting.  Maybe he replaces Pep in a year??

Number of teams Lillo has managed or coached since 2000: 13
Hasn't stayed for two years with any.  Hasn't stayed at a club for more than two years in 25 years

[Red Beret]

Number of teams Lillo has managed or coached since 2000: 13
Hasn't stayed for two years with any.  Hasn't stayed at a club for more than two years in 25 years

Should suit City just fine then. 

[TepidT2O]

Number of teams Lillo has managed or coached since 2000: 13
Hasn't stayed for two years with any.  Hasn't stayed at a club for more than two years in 25 years

In one hand he doesn’t need to as pep will only stay another year.

On the flip side, it’s a bit odd isn’t it....?

[rafathegaffa83]

In one hand he doesn’t need to as pep will only stay another year.

On the flip side, it’s a bit odd isn’t it....?

Probably keeps Guardiola there for another season and then he goes

[Ray K]

This new coach Lilo ......Assuming it isn't a stitch up

Don't try to sneak that pun under the carpet. Be proud of your puns. Embrace your inner Big Dick Nick  (oo-er missus, etc etc.)

[rob1966]

Not making excuses for this malarkey..
but I reckon this must've been the supporters dancing to a pre-game song on the tannoys or something?
Maybe some Oasis?

Enjoy

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/Clp8vDZZ4Tg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/Clp8vDZZ4Tg</a>

[Samie]

Seriously it's shocking how much we've broken this lot.   

[Red Beret]

Enjoy

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/Clp8vDZZ4Tg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/Clp8vDZZ4Tg</a>

Every time I see that, I feel some of my brain cells die.

Please - somebody think of my brain cells.

[ToneLa]

Guardiola moaning about his players having to return to playing so soon. I'm sure he'd be saying exactly the same if his team were 25 points clear.

Funny as fuck, getting his excuses in early!

“You can play a game after three weeks of holidays but we were two [months] of holidays lying on the sofa, doing nothing much, and that’s why the players are not fully fit. But we have to start and we have to finish the season because the damage economically to all clubs must be as little as possible.”

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/jun/16/pep-guardiola-says-manchester-city-players-not-prepared-for-hectic-schedule

[Brian Blessed]

If only he’d thought to have coaching staff email at home fitness regimes to the players.

[TepidT2O]

Don't try to sneak that pun under the carpet. Be proud of your puns. Embrace your inner Big Dick Nick  (oo-er missus, etc etc.)

Rumbled

[rafathegaffa83]

If only he’d thought to have coaching staff email at home fitness regimes to the players.

Was about to say the same

[swoopy]

“You can play a game after three weeks of holidays but we were two [months] of holidays lying on the sofa, doing nothing much, and that’s why the players are not fully fit"

Not sure Kyle Walker got the memo Pep

[Crosby Nick]

Don't try to sneak that pun under the carpet. Be proud of your puns. Embrace your inner Big Dick Nick  (oo-er missus, etc etc.)

*Batistuta nod*