Topic: Jürgen Klopp

[ScouserAtHeart]

Fergie Wenger Mourinho Guardiola?

[MonsLibpool]

Completed the set

[kavah]

^ Guardiola, Mourinho, Ferguson and Kenny isn't it?

(and Mourinho's won the UEFA)

[Ghost Town]

Thanks. I assumed it would be that lot. But did any of them win more than Klopp with one PL club? They've all got something missing, right? - Ferguson didn't win the UEFA with Man U did he? What about the League Cup?

I know, I know I can do my own research. But I'm in awe of some you lot's memory for this sort of thing.

[Son of Spion]

Thanks. I assumed it would be that lot. But did any of them win more than Klopp with one PL club? They've all got something missing, right? - Ferguson didn't win the UEFA with Man U did he? What about the League Cup?

I know, I know I can do my own research. But I'm in awe of some you lot's memory for this sort of thing.

Whisky Nose won the League Cup four times with them. No UEFA Cup though.

[reddebs]

Surely Bob won everything there was to win?

[Dim Glas]

Surely Bob won everything there was to win?

No FA cup!

[reddebs]

No FA cup!

Wow!  When you're winning everything every year you just assume you've won them all.

[Jshooters]

^ Guardiola, Mourinho, Ferguson and Kenny isn't it?

(and Mourinho's won the UEFA)

Guardiola hasn’t won the CL with an English club

[Son of Spion]

Wow!  When you're winning everything every year you just assume you've won them all.

He won 20 trophies in 9 years.

I'd also forgotten that he never bagged an FA Cup.

[Dim Glas]

Wow!  When you're winning everything every year you just assume you've won them all.

Liverpool actually (and a bit oddly) seemed to be allergic to the FA Cup for many of those years 

When we won the double with Kenny in 86, that was the first FA Cup win for 12 years, and they’d only got to 1 final in that span too. And prior to that they only won 1 the decade before.

[reddebs]

He won 20 trophies in 9 years.

I'd also forgotten that he never bagged an FA Cup.

Liverpool actually (and a bit oddly) seemed to be allergic to the FA Cup for many of those years 

When we won the double with Kenny in 86, that was the first FA Cup win for 12 years, and they’d only got to 1 final in that span too. And prior to that they only won 1 the decade before.

My memory's playing tricks on me as it felt like we were in the final a lot during the 70s & 80s and yes, 20 trophies in 9 years is a ridiculous trophy haul.

[Son of Spion]

My memory's playing tricks on me as it felt like we were in the final a lot during the 70s & 80s and yes, 20 trophies in 9 years is a ridiculous trophy haul.

Our 70s and 80s appearances...

1970/71  Liverpool 1  Arsenal 2. Bill Shankly as manager.

1973/74 Liverpool 3  Newcastle 0. Bill Shankly as manager.

1976/77  Liverpool 1  Mancs 2.  Bob Paisley as manager.

1985/86  Liverpool 3  Everton 1.  Kenny Dalglish as manager.

1987/88  Liverpool 0  Wimbledon 1. Kenny Dalglish as manager.

1988/89  Liverpool 3  Everton 2.  Kenny Dalglish as manager.

Bob only had one FA Cup Final as manager.

[reddebs]

Our 70s and 80s appearances...

1970/71  Liverpool 1  Arsenal 2. Bill Shankly as manager.

1973/74 Liverpool 3  Newcastle 0. Bill Shankly as manager.

1976/77  Liverpool 1  Mancs 2.  Bob Paisley as manager.

1985/86  Liverpool 3  Everton 1.  Kenny Dalglish as manager.

1987/88  Liverpool 0  Wimbledon 1. Kenny Dalglish as manager.

1988/89  Liverpool 3  Everton 2.  Kenny Dalglish as manager.

Bob only had one FA Cup Final as manager.

So my memory's not as bad as I thought then

[Nitramdorf]

So my memory's not as bad as I thought then

We did get to quite a few semis. Seemed to come up against the game raising Mancs a few times though. There was also that epic semi with Arsenal, had 3 replays I think every few days.

[Sudden Death Draft Loser]

Jurgen Klopp compares fixture congestion response to climate change


Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp has compared fixture congestion to climate change, saying it is an issue football's leaders have not acted upon.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62436610

[classycarra]

Jurgen Klopp compares fixture congestion response to climate change


Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp has compared fixture congestion to climate change, saying it is an issue football's leaders have not acted upon.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62436610

Properly sensationalist tabloid dick-headed headline there from some intern at the BBC churning out shite.

He's not 'compared fixture congestion response to climate change' - he's made a comparison between the lack of response in both cases where authorities and other parties are (or should be, at this stage) well aware of the issue.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Properly sensationalist tabloid dick-headed headline there from some intern at the BBC churning out shite.

He's not 'compared fixture congestion response to climate change' - he's made a comparison between the lack of response in both cases where authorities and other parties are (or should be, at this stage) well aware of the issue.

It's another own goal by our manager,Fulhams team talk done for them & the Cambodians are going ape shit.

[Wingman]

Our 70s and 80s appearances...

1970/71  Liverpool 1  Arsenal 2. Bill Shankly as manager.

1973/74 Liverpool 3  Newcastle 0. Bill Shankly as manager.

1976/77  Liverpool 1  Mancs 2.  Bob Paisley as manager.

1985/86  Liverpool 3  Everton 1.  Kenny Dalglish as manager.

1987/88  Liverpool 0  Wimbledon 1. Kenny Dalglish as manager.

1988/89  Liverpool 3  Everton 2.  Kenny Dalglish as manager.

Bob only had one FA Cup Final as manager.

We won 4 European Cups between those FA Cup wins in 74 and 86. Klopp has 3 European finals to 1 FA cup final too, although 1 win in each. He needs a UEFA cup win for the lot doesn’t he? Nobody wants us in that over the CL though!

[WhereAngelsPlay]

We won 4 European Cups between those FA Cup wins in 74 and 86. Klopp has 3 European finals to 1 FA cup final too, although 1 win in each. He needs a UEFA cup win for the lot doesn’t he? Nobody wants us in that over the CL though!

So close to having a clean sweep.

[oojason]

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A few videos and some info on Jürgen Klopp...

www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=343673.msg18435789#msg18435789

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[naka]

Tbf we have been in some number of finals under Jk
Europa , league cup  , champions league , fa cup
It’s been some rollercoaster .

[Ghost Town]

Once again, thoigh, I would say that even if we had won zero trophies under him I would still love him and because he's just an amazing human being.

Trophies are nice, mind...

[tubby]

I'll be the one to say it... Klopp needs to shoulder a lot of the blame for the state we're in at the moment:

- Persisting with the high line when we had no pace at the back with all our centre back injuries
- Persisting with the high line at the start of this season when we've got a utter lack of pressure in midfield
- Playing Elliott as an 8 in a three man midfield when he's clearly a 10 or a wide playmaker in a 4231
- Whatever the fuck the plan is with the Trent/Elliott/Salah axis of nothingness
- Not budging from the 433 that clearly isn't working
- Wanting to give contracts to his ageing generals when their legs have gone or they're on the way out

Loyalty is to be admired, but we're a football club, not a charity.  I do wonder if the tactical stuff is the influence of Lijnders though.

[MNAA]

I'll be the one to say it... Klopp needs to shoulder a lot of the blame for the state we're in at the moment:

- Persisting with the high line when we had no pace at the back with all our centre back injuries
- Persisting with the high line at the start of this season when we've got a utter lack of pressure in midfield
- Playing Elliott as an 8 in a three man midfield when he's clearly a 10 or a wide playmaker in a 4231
- Whatever the fuck the plan is with the Trent/Elliott/Salah axis of nothingness
- Not budging from the 433 that clearly isn't working
- Wanting to give contracts to his ageing generals when their legs have gone or they're on the way out

Loyalty is to be admired, but we're a football club, not a charity.  I do wonder if the tactical stuff is the influence of Lijnders though.

Kloppo … you need to speak to Tubby. He has all the answers to our problem. Replacing you with Tubby may not be a bad shout either

[tubby]

Kloppo … you need to speak to Tubby. He has all the answers to our problem. Replacing you with Tubby may not be a bad shout either

Thank you for your support.  I'll do RAWK proud.

[lfcred1976]

I'll be the one to say it... Klopp needs to shoulder a lot of the blame for the state we're in at the moment:

- Persisting with the high line when we had no pace at the back with all our centre back injuries
- Persisting with the high line at the start of this season when we've got a utter lack of pressure in midfield
- Playing Elliott as an 8 in a three man midfield when he's clearly a 10 or a wide playmaker in a 4231
- Whatever the fuck the plan is with the Trent/Elliott/Salah axis of nothingness
- Not budging from the 433 that clearly isn't working
- Wanting to give contracts to his ageing generals when their legs have gone or they're on the way out

Loyalty is to be admired, but we're a football club, not a charity.  I do wonder if the tactical stuff is the influence of Lijnders though.

When you have owners who are tighter than cramp, what's he expected to do?  Get rid of players who won't be replaced?

[tubby]

When you have owners who are tighter than cramp, what's he expected to do?  Get rid of players who won't be replaced?

Would've had more chance of replacing them if they weren't there anymore.

[lfcred1976]

Would've had more chance of replacing them if they weren't there anymore.

With what?  FSG aren't arsed about the assets on the pitch.  They want nice shiny new stands and training centres so when they sell they maximise their profit.

I know Rafa was a cock at times, but he would have defo been calling out the owners for what they are.  Tight arsed c*nts

[tubby]

I know Rafa was a cock at times

Wat.

[Barneylfc∗]

With what?  FSG aren't arsed about the assets on the pitch.  They want nice shiny new stands and training centres so when they sell they maximise their profit.

I know Rafa was a cock at times, but he would have defo been calling out the owners for what they are.  Tight arsed c*nts

Fuck off with that shit you bellend.

[Samie]

With what?  FSG aren't arsed about the assets on the pitch.  They want nice shiny new stands and training centres so when they sell they maximise their profit.

I know Rafa was a cock at times, but he would have defo been calling out the owners for what they are.  Tight arsed c*nts

Trolling and not even trying to hide. 

[leinad]

Fuck off with that shit you bellend.

The disrespect Rafa gets, even from some of our own is a joke. Gave me some of my favourite memories and that's not even mentioning how much of a good man he is.

[lfcred1976]

Fuck off with that shit you bellend.

Like I said, at times.  He wasn't perfect (ask Xabi Alonso about being asked to miss the birth of his child), but he'd be calling FSG out.

[RedBec1993]

I love the big German no matter what. If anyone can get us out of this run of bad form it’s him. He’s had to manoeuvre through a mini midfield injury crisis and give quite a lot of minutes to players who would only have played a bit part role this season.

[HeartAndSoul]

I love the big German no matter what. If anyone can get us out of this run of bad form it’s him. He’s had to manoeuvre through a mini midfield injury crisis and give quite a lot of minutes to players who would only have played a bit part role this season.

I love the man too but I really wish he would be a bit more flexible with his formation during injury crisis. Why not alter the formation today instead of playing Milner. Why not go to a back 3, really wish we would try and tinker our formations a bit more when things aren’t going for us. Add an extra defender in there and that would give trent a bit more freedom to attack.

[Dim Glas]

I love the big German no matter what. If anyone can get us out of this run of bad form it’s him. He’s had to manoeuvre through a mini midfield injury crisis and give quite a lot of minutes to players who would only have played a bit part role this season.

aye.

More than a mini crisis at this point mind. Only player that would be a first 11 midfielder was fit to start tonight and that was Fab, who’s form is iffy, but no choice but to play him.  And having to play Elliot from the start 3 games in a few days, also not optimal, and it showed tonight, he struggled.

Now we hope and pray Thiago stays fit for more than two minutes and Arthur gets up to speed relitively quickly so he at least can contribute some minutes too.

[Kennys from heaven]

Jesus fucking wept - I kind of guessed this would be coming from certain quarters but not from Liverpool fans.

I am actually hearing calls from for Jurgen Klopp to be sacked.

Let me be clear on what should be the stance from ALL Liverpool fans. With no exceptions. None. You can question choices. You can voice your anger, but:

Get to fuck ANYONE who even thinks he should lose his job. Nauseating to the extreme. I'm fucking livid and utterly appalled at the mere suggestion that he should be offed as you all should be.

End of discussion.

[Dim Glas]

I love the man too but I really wish he would be a bit more flexible with his formation during injury crisis. Why not alter the formation today instead of playing Milner. Why not go to a back 3, really wish we would try and tinker our formations a bit more when things aren’t going for us. Add an extra defender in there and that would give trent a bit more freedom to attack.

playing a back 3 for the first time in his career? Probably be an even bigger disaster.

(Note - I have a pathological hatred of back 3’s and I never want to see Liverpool start with one).

[lionel_messias]

I won't hear a word against Rafa. My eldest has his middle name from him.

As for Klopp, no one is perfect and I trust him to reflect and start a plan
for what's not working. He's been a bit off lately but you'd back him
to sort things out.