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Re: Mascherano
« Reply #120 on: January 4, 2007, 11:55:12 am »
Excuse my ignorance, but what kind of player is Mascherano? Attacking Midfielder? Defensive? etc

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Re: Mascherano
« Reply #121 on: January 4, 2007, 11:56:12 am »
Excuse my ignorance, but what kind of player is Mascherano? Attacking Midfielder? Defensive? etc
Defensive midfielder on paper, but more than a Makelélé-type of player. A passer, if you know what I mean.

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Re: Mascherano
« Reply #122 on: January 4, 2007, 11:56:24 am »
Excuse my ignorance, but what kind of player is Mascherano? Attacking Midfielder? Defensive? etc

defensive, can tackle, passes well, that sort of player

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Re: Mascherano
« Reply #123 on: January 4, 2007, 11:56:59 am »
He's the player Rafa wants Zenden to be. :)

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Re: Mascherano
« Reply #124 on: January 4, 2007, 12:00:01 pm »
Ah, thanks guys. Another Argentinean hardman? Sounds promising :)

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Re: Mascherano
« Reply #125 on: January 4, 2007, 12:03:10 pm »
Mascherano is a very good sitting midfield player who was excellent in the World Cup.

I can't see him having any long term future with us unless one of our 3 central players a re leaving.

It's ok for Zenden to be bit part at the end of his career but this lad is very good and on the way up. A loan deal would be fine.

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Re: Mascherano
« Reply #126 on: January 4, 2007, 12:03:51 pm »
Help Palleta settle as well

Have to say thought the Mascherno story was nothing but a rumour


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Re: Mascherano
« Reply #128 on: January 4, 2007, 12:10:12 pm »
Mascherano wants to quit West Ham

Argentine international Javier Mascherano has told West Ham that he wants to leave the club.
The 22-year-old arrived at Upton Park along with international team-mate Carlos Tevez on 31 August.

But he has played just six minutes since the defeat at Tottenham on 22 October and the midfielder said: "I must get out of here.

"I cannot stay at West Ham any more like this, without playing. At my age my game will stagnate if I don't play."

Struggling Hammers boss Alan Curbishley has been linked with West Brom's Nigel Quashie as a replacement.

The 28-year-old midfielder joined the Baggies from Southampton in January 2006 and has vast experience of battling against relegation.

Meanwhile, Liverpool and Spanish club Real Zaragoza have been linked with Mascherano, who added: "I came to England to do well but I have not had the opportunities necessary to show what I can do.

"If I am not playing in the West Ham team I will have to leave to continue my career with another team."

But under Fifa rules Mascherano is not able to play for another club until the end of June.

Fifa rules state that one footballer cannot play for more than two clubs between 1 July and the end of the following June - and Mascherano has already turned out for Brazilian side Corinthians and West Ham since last summer.

However, national associations are able to apply to Fifa for a dispensation - potentially opening the way for Mascherano to end his frustrating stay at Upton Park.

Italian side Juventus reportedly pulled out of a move to sign Mascherano citing the complications with the player's contract.

Mascherano has played in seven games since joining West Ham in August, five in the Premiership and the two Uefa Cup ties against Palermo.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/sport2/hi/football/teams/w/west_ham_utd/6230031.stm
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Re: Mascherano
« Reply #129 on: January 4, 2007, 12:10:50 pm »
Can't play for more than 2 clubs in one season.
It's cause he loks like a badger. Women fucking love badgers.

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Re: Mascherano
« Reply #130 on: January 4, 2007, 12:12:17 pm »
Can't play for more than 2 clubs in one season.
You can, but you have to get permission from FIFA. Shouldn't be a problem with Mascherano.
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Re: Mascherano
« Reply #131 on: January 4, 2007, 12:12:26 pm »
Can't play for more than 2 clubs in one season.

He can play for two clubs and not three, he has not played for any other than West Ham in the 2006/2007 season.
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Re: Mascherano
« Reply #132 on: January 4, 2007, 12:12:42 pm »
I'm not sure we really need him, with Gerrard, Alonso, Sissoko and Zenden. Is he defensive midfield or just normal central midfield?

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Re: Mascherano
« Reply #133 on: January 4, 2007, 12:12:58 pm »
Can't play for more than 2 clubs in one season.

You can if you receive special dispensation from FIFA.

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Re: Mascherano
« Reply #134 on: January 4, 2007, 12:14:01 pm »
"Despite suggestions Mascherano can't play for three clubs in the same season, in fact, he's only played for one during this campaign.


The South American season ended on December 31, 2005, before Mascherano joined West Ham in the summer of 2006."


Meh...

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Re: Mascherano
« Reply #135 on: January 4, 2007, 12:15:20 pm »
Anyway, there's two other threads about this.

Stick to them, and close this.

Meh...

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Re: Mascherano
« Reply #136 on: January 4, 2007, 12:15:21 pm »
Can't play for more than 2 clubs in one season.

Echo: "Despite suggestions Mascherano can't play for three clubs in the same season, in fact, he's only played for one during this campaign.

The South American season ended on December 31, 2005, before Mascherano joined West Ham in the summer of 2006.

However, any move would still have to be ratified by FIFA."

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Re: Mascherano
« Reply #137 on: January 4, 2007, 12:15:26 pm »
Can't play for more than 2 clubs in one season.
and can't start more than 1 thread on the subject unless special dispensation from a mod :)

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Re: Mascherano
« Reply #138 on: January 4, 2007, 12:16:56 pm »
I'll shut up.




I didn't start it anyway......................... :no
It's cause he loks like a badger. Women fucking love badgers.

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Re: Mascherano
« Reply #139 on: January 4, 2007, 12:17:41 pm »
I'd be happy if we sign Mascherano on loan with option to make move permanent. He hasn't made an impact at West Ham but there's no doubt that he is quality player with great future ahead of him.

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Re: Mascherano
« Reply #140 on: January 4, 2007, 12:20:35 pm »
Mascherano would be quality, that's for sure! I still can't understand why neither Pardew nor Curbishley have given him a decent chance. Doesn't appear to be much of a trouble-maker and was class during the WC.
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Re: Mascherano
« Reply #141 on: January 4, 2007, 12:24:36 pm »
Though utd where after him ?

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Re: Mascherano
« Reply #142 on: January 4, 2007, 12:25:11 pm »
Though utd where after him ?

They were before he signed for Hammers.

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Re: Mascherano
« Reply #143 on: January 4, 2007, 12:32:32 pm »
Ah, thanks guys. Another Argentinean hardman? Sounds promising :)

Not really a hard man. Guardiola, Makalele, Albelda type of player.
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In fact, I'll do you all a favor and ban myself from the January transfer window forum if we get anyone other than Etoo.

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Re: Mascherano
« Reply #144 on: January 4, 2007, 12:33:31 pm »
he's a great player but where does he fit in at anfield?

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Re: Mascherano
« Reply #145 on: January 4, 2007, 12:34:05 pm »
I'd be fucking delighted with Mascherano despite whats happened at West Ham, this guy is a real player in the making and will give Xabi something to think about, he's a class player going through a bad patch. Guess this means that Bolo is on his way in the summer.

It would be very interesting if we set up with him and Xabi in the middle and Gerrard slightly ahead in a makeshift 4-3-3 with our wingers and or Kuyt/Bellamy with another of our forwards in the middle.

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Re: Mascherano
« Reply #146 on: January 4, 2007, 12:34:52 pm »
As suggested in the article, it would be a loan deal initially. I would suggest this could prove to be a wise move given the fixtures will soon start to pile up and we have no cover in midfield till Momo gets back in February.

I don't think the lad can go from being an integral part of Argentina's WC squad to being a flop in an instant. I reckon this could be a good deal for us if he comes.

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Re: Mascherano
« Reply #147 on: January 4, 2007, 12:35:23 pm »
he's a great player but where does he fit in at anfield?

Been thinking about same thing mate. We've got a lot of games and there will be injuries and IMO Zenden is not good enough to cover for Xabi/Gerrard/Momo.

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Re: Mascherano
« Reply #148 on: January 4, 2007, 12:36:05 pm »
he's a great player but where does he fit in at anfield?

my point entirely, can only think of him as being a younger and better replacement for Zenden. No way would he dislodge SG or XA, and Momo is more established in the squad and EPL.

a funny one, but if it were no more than £5m i wouldn't be unhappy to get him.

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« Reply #149 on: January 4, 2007, 12:36:08 pm »
think he would be a good adition to the squad
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Re: Mascherano
« Reply #150 on: January 4, 2007, 12:36:15 pm »
we have no cover in midfield till Momo gets back in February.

I thought that Momo will be back in January.

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Re: Mascherano
« Reply #151 on: January 4, 2007, 12:37:13 pm »
I thought that Momo will be back in January.
Well, we are January and he's nowhere near being back, isn't he?

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Re: Mascherano
« Reply #152 on: January 4, 2007, 12:37:50 pm »
he's a great player but where does he fit in at anfield?

Or maybe we will play with three central midfielders, two wingers and one striker. Just like Rafa used to play with Valencia.

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Re: Mascherano
« Reply #153 on: January 4, 2007, 12:38:36 pm »
Well, we are January and he's nowhere near being back, isn't he?

Zenden will be back very soon. and Mom in feb.

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Re: Mascherano
« Reply #154 on: January 4, 2007, 12:38:51 pm »
Well, we are January and he's nowhere near being back, isn't he?

I haven't seen any news about his comeback for a while but I assumed that he would be back in early January.

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Re: Mascherano
« Reply #155 on: January 4, 2007, 12:39:15 pm »
Zenden will be back very soon. and Mom in feb.

Yes but Bolo is not good enough.

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Re: Mascherano
« Reply #156 on: January 4, 2007, 12:39:52 pm »
                          Kuyt/Crouch
  Garcia/Gonz/Kewell      Pennant/Garcia
          Alonso - Mascherano/ - Gerrard
                              Momo

Think we should play with two strikers to be honest. It wouldn't benefit Bellamy either.

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Re: Mascherano
« Reply #157 on: January 4, 2007, 12:41:06 pm »
I thought that Momo will be back in January.

According to Physioroom.com, he'll be back late Feb.

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Re: Mascherano
« Reply #158 on: January 4, 2007, 12:41:35 pm »
Or maybe we will play with three central midfielders, two wingers and one striker. Just like Rafa used to play with Valencia.

Surley then we would have Momo, Xabi and Gerrard in the middle, with Pennant on one side and Kewell/Gonzalez/Garcia on the other?

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Re: Mascherano
« Reply #159 on: January 4, 2007, 12:41:49 pm »
I'd be delighted with those 2 coming in. Mascherano has immense potential and Neil offers cover across the entire defence, indeed into the midfield as well. If we clinch those 2 signings we'd have significantly strengthened the squad.
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