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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #920 on: June 17, 2023, 10:35:31 pm »
It staggers me every time… just how dreadful Ferrari are.

The start of the 2022 season, they had a car on a par with the Red Bull.

Now?  An absolute pile of shit.  What are they doing?  And where is that ‘great driver’ people were talking about last year?
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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #921 on: June 17, 2023, 10:57:40 pm »
It staggers me every time… just how dreadful Ferrari are.

The start of the 2022 season, they had a car on a par with the Red Bull.

Now?  An absolute pile of shit.  What are they doing?  And where is that ‘great driver’ people were talking about last year?

There is something very wrong about the relationship between Leclerc and Ferrari you really feel as though he needs to get away from them, there is a lot of tension there.
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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #922 on: June 18, 2023, 02:24:06 am »
Hulkenberg 3 grid spot penalty. Red Flag violation

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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #923 on: June 18, 2023, 12:34:31 pm »
From practice the Aston was quicker in race trim than the mercs so I expect it to finish Max, Alonso, Merc Merc.

Questions in my mind are these.

How long will Red Bull put up with Perez? And how long before something ‘big’ happens at Ferrari? (Leclerc walking out for example)
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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #924 on: June 18, 2023, 01:21:10 pm »
Put up with Perez? That’s a bonkers statement. He was pretty much level on points until recently but has had two poor qualifying sessions that wrecked his race.

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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #925 on: June 18, 2023, 01:25:58 pm »
Put up with Perez? That’s a bonkers statement. He was pretty much level on points until recently but has had two poor qualifying sessions that wrecked his race.

it's less daft than thinking leclerc might "walk out"

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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #926 on: June 18, 2023, 01:54:53 pm »
Put up with Perez? That’s a bonkers statement. He was pretty much level on points until recently but has had two poor qualifying sessions that wrecked his race.
Yeah, fair enough… “if this carries on” is a caveat.  Whinged spice is notoriously impatient when someone isn’t delivering

it's less daft than thinking leclerc might "walk out"
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Ok, I don’t think that’s likely, but I can’t see the status quo going on there with out something exploding somewhere (and I don’t mean the car).

They’re so incredibly political that it can’t be easy there.

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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #927 on: June 18, 2023, 02:28:41 pm »
it's less daft than thinking leclerc might "walk out"

There are huge issues going on between Leclerc and Ferrari at the moment, at times he seems wildly emotional which can't be a good thing long term and certainly not short term either considering the last two races.
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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #928 on: June 18, 2023, 02:31:23 pm »
There are huge issues going on between Leclerc and Ferrari at the moment, at times he seems wildly emotional which can't be a good thing long term and certainly not short term either considering the last two races.

That may well be the case but nobody's going to quit their team during the season.

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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #929 on: June 18, 2023, 02:37:25 pm »
That may well be the case but nobody's going to quit their team during the season.
Can you not see something of a ‘blow up’ coming?  They can’t carry on like this surely?
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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #930 on: June 18, 2023, 02:41:23 pm »
Can you not see something of a ‘blow up’ coming?  They can’t carry on like this surely?

I tend to go on history, not histrionics, and that kind of thing just doesn't happen in season. They might have team reshuffle or whatever but vasseur seems pretty set and in season driver changes are very rare, especially if you take red bull's recent history out.

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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #931 on: June 18, 2023, 02:44:33 pm »
I tend to go on history, not histrionics, and that kind of thing just doesn't happen in season. They might have team reshuffle or whatever but vasseur seems pretty set and in season driver changes are very rare, especially if you take red bull's recent history out.
Not talking about an in season driver change, very unlikely…. But surely something behind the scenes? It’s such a long season.
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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #932 on: June 18, 2023, 03:59:41 pm »
The thing is, while it’s true that Ferrari have fucked up (and continue to do so), Leclerc has made mistakes too - so he can’t always blame the team.   If it was all one-way, then I’d imagine there’d be more grievances and potential for a bust-up. 

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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #933 on: June 18, 2023, 04:05:41 pm »
Not talking about an in season driver change, very unlikely…. But surely something behind the scenes? It’s such a long season.

most of the time that kind of thing happens between seasons, but they might well have some internal moves or something.

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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #934 on: June 18, 2023, 06:42:20 pm »
Such a better grid walk this.

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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #935 on: June 18, 2023, 06:57:35 pm »
Those rear wings on the 2016 cars were weird

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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #936 on: June 18, 2023, 07:04:26 pm »
poor start from alonso


the air coming off the train of cars really does batter those trees around the circuit
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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #937 on: June 18, 2023, 07:19:08 pm »
Safety car.
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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #938 on: June 18, 2023, 07:19:22 pm »
Russell hits the wall.

Safety car

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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #939 on: June 18, 2023, 07:19:52 pm »
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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #940 on: June 18, 2023, 07:19:53 pm »
Unsafe release

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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #941 on: June 18, 2023, 07:20:10 pm »
That release will be looked at.
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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #942 on: June 18, 2023, 07:21:09 pm »
That's right on the edge

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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #943 on: June 18, 2023, 07:21:28 pm »
That’s not unsafe when you see the Alonso onboard. Alonso clearly exaggerating it, F1 equivalent of a dive.
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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #944 on: June 18, 2023, 07:24:24 pm »
ferrari decide not to pit either car. more genius stategy?

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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #945 on: June 18, 2023, 07:34:08 pm »
Nicely done Lando.
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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #946 on: June 18, 2023, 07:40:08 pm »
Still on for my prediction bar Russel finding the wall
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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #947 on: June 18, 2023, 07:52:47 pm »
:lmao way to go off
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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #948 on: June 18, 2023, 07:54:52 pm »
Yeah that's the wrong way.

De vries has been poorer than expected.

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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #949 on: June 18, 2023, 07:56:35 pm »
Norris getting 5 sec penalty

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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #950 on: June 18, 2023, 07:57:29 pm »
Norris getting 5 sec penalty

Bugger off stewards.  ::)
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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #951 on: June 18, 2023, 07:57:51 pm »
Wasn’t convinced by the Ferrari strategy of not pitting during the safety car but actually it’s looking like a good call.
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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #952 on: June 18, 2023, 08:06:33 pm »
This has been a dreadful race and we now have a faster car being told to stay behind his teammate !
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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #953 on: June 18, 2023, 08:18:12 pm »
Russell retiring break issues.
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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #954 on: June 18, 2023, 08:19:09 pm »
Fuck sake, I thought the race was on at 9pm for some reason  :butt

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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #955 on: June 18, 2023, 08:25:07 pm »
Someone should pay a Haas or Williams to just run into Max and this would be pretty good.

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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #956 on: June 18, 2023, 08:25:11 pm »
Albon doing a cracking trulli impression

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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #957 on: June 18, 2023, 08:25:40 pm »
Fuck sake, I thought the race was on at 9pm for some reason  :butt
Hardly anything has happened
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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #958 on: June 18, 2023, 08:37:57 pm »
How many laps in a row has Max led now? What's the record?
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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #959 on: June 18, 2023, 08:38:51 pm »
Yawn fest that
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