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Re: Sky Sports
« Reply #3640 on: December 4, 2023, 08:45:47 pm »
That's disgusting, they are by far the best ones covering it. It's disgraceful that football is such a closed shop now between two agenda driven companies who just show the worst of everything.  :butt

Shit, love Amazons coverage, far better than the shite served up by the other two.
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Re: Sky Sports
« Reply #3641 on: December 4, 2023, 09:18:07 pm »
Going into the game, I'd thought Drury was good - a huge upgrade on Tyler with his anti-Liverpool bias.  As the game wore on, I felt increasingly like Drury = Tyler, he seemed to get very excited about Newcastle and less so about Liverpool.  Very little difference between him and Tyler in the end, perhaps Neville managed to drag him down a few levels.

I was ultimately very disappointed.  Plus ca change in my opinion, confirming Sky has an agenda.

I personally think Drury is the only good thing about Sky football now. His comms are 100 times better than that Easter island head Liverpool hating tyler

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Re: Sky Sports
« Reply #3642 on: December 4, 2023, 09:38:41 pm »
If Sky won 4 of the 5 packages and TNT basically get the 5th package which is Saturday 12:30 kick offs and two midweek rounds.. does that mean they essentially removed the package Amazon currently has? As in they've merged it with the current TNT package?

Sounds dodgy if so.
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Re: Sky Sports
« Reply #3643 on: December 4, 2023, 09:42:10 pm »
If Sky won 4 of the 5 packages and TNT basically get the 5th package which is Saturday 12:30 kick offs and two midweek rounds.. does that mean they essentially removed the package Amazon currently has? As in they've merged it with the current TNT package?

Sounds dodgy if so.

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Re: Sky Sports
« Reply #3644 on: December 4, 2023, 10:04:56 pm »
If Sky won 4 of the 5 packages and TNT basically get the 5th package which is Saturday 12:30 kick offs and two midweek rounds.. does that mean they essentially removed the package Amazon currently has? As in they've merged it with the current TNT package?

Sounds dodgy if so.
they reduced the number of packages available from, seven or maybe eight last time to 5 and they weren't allowed to sell them all to one broadcaster due to competition rules.

Last time there was a competitive process for the rights, two of the packages didn't get sold and Amazon picked one up on the cheap and BT the other (20 midweek games per package).

Not really arsed who has the games, don't subscribe to either channel, a bit disappointed Amazon have lost out as I do have a Prime Subscription but there's plenty of ways to watch games.

You watch subscriptions go through the roof again after this announcement, robbing fuckers
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Re: Sky Sports
« Reply #3645 on: December 5, 2023, 12:05:36 am »
Sky Sports News has always been bad, but now it seems to be more news about Sky Sports. Whenever I catch a few minutes, it's about Sky Sports or upcoming events or talking heads with a Sky commentator or presenter. Other than the ticker there's little actual news.
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Re: Sky Sports
« Reply #3646 on: December 5, 2023, 03:02:23 am »
they reduced the number of packages available from, seven or maybe eight last time to 5 and they weren't allowed to sell them all to one broadcaster due to competition rules.

Last time there was a competitive process for the rights, two of the packages didn't get sold and Amazon picked one up on the cheap and BT the other (20 midweek games per package).

Not really arsed who has the games, don't subscribe to either channel, a bit disappointed Amazon have lost out as I do have a Prime Subscription but there's plenty of ways to watch games.

You watch subscriptions go through the roof again after this announcement, robbing fuckers

If anyone remembers, on the last round of rights, 7 packages went to auction only the first 5 packages were sold, the last 2 packages didn't sell, & the premier league ended up having to flog them off, & asked Amazon to take one of the packages, then asked BT Sports [as they were then] to take the other package, as no one else made a bid for those 2 packages, i believe Amazon are not interested in showing the premier league, & didn't even bother bidding for the rights.

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Re: Sky Sports
« Reply #3647 on: December 5, 2023, 07:39:03 am »
It wasn't really needed but it provides further evidence that football genuinely peaked in the UK sometime in the first half of the last decade. Everything since has effectively been a plateau. Streaming probably accounts for most of that but the collapse in youth participation/ interest is probably now going to start to become the dominant factor.

They'll be bailed out again by increases to overseas rights for this next cycle but even that growth looks finite.

The clubs must be getting genuinely worried at this point. How do you sustain, let alone grow income in the 2030's in an environment where the next generation are significantly less hooked on the basic product? Almost every type of income is contingent on that cultural relevance.

Big clubs obviously have the theoretical potential to generate more from less, by selling their broadcast rights directly, or by jumping in to an alternative competition that involves less redistribution, but their ineptitude at the last attempt has probably closed that off indefinitely. A premier League streaming service might help but even that can't outrun basic demographics for long.

On the plus side: we carry fairly little debt and have more income potential than most, so we should be able to watch others sink around us first


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Re: Sky Sports
« Reply #3648 on: December 5, 2023, 11:47:37 am »
It wasn't really needed but it provides further evidence that football genuinely peaked in the UK sometime in the first half of the last decade. Everything since has effectively been a plateau. Streaming probably accounts for most of that but the collapse in youth participation/ interest is probably now going to start to become the dominant factor.

They'll be bailed out again by increases to overseas rights for this next cycle but even that growth looks finite.

The clubs must be getting genuinely worried at this point. How do you sustain, let alone grow income in the 2030's in an environment where the next generation are significantly less hooked on the basic product? Almost every type of income is contingent on that cultural relevance.

Big clubs obviously have the theoretical potential to generate more from less, by selling their broadcast rights directly, or by jumping in to an alternative competition that involves less redistribution, but their ineptitude at the last attempt has probably closed that off indefinitely. A premier League streaming service might help but even that can't outrun basic demographics for long.

On the plus side: we carry fairly little debt and have more income potential than most, so we should be able to watch others sink around us first

Even match income seems reliant on older generations (high average age of matchgoer at most grounds). Yet they seem determined to drive people away with bollocks like VAR which nobody wants, not to mention state owned clubs being allowed. It'll reach a tipping point in probably the next cycle.

Younger people just don't have the disposable incomes for things like 1000 season tickets (or eagerness to pay it) and aren't taking out Sky subscriptions. They do everything on their phone or stream, or their interaction with football is more via FIFA. Plus much lowered attention spans to actually watch a 90-100+ minute football match. The smart phone reduces everything to moments.
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Re: Sky Sports
« Reply #3649 on: December 5, 2023, 11:52:54 am »
Hate everything about their football coverage and how over the top it is plus Gary Neville is the worst co-commentator that I can remember his bias is shocking that as soon as I hear his voice I have to mute the television.
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Re: Sky Sports
« Reply #3650 on: December 5, 2023, 11:53:57 am »
Hate everything about their football coverage and how over the top it is plus Gary Neville is the worst co-commentator that I can remember his bias is shocking that as soon as I hear his voice I have to mute the television.

Sky have dumbed down near enough every year since the days of Keys and Gray. Neville made a bit of an effort originally but paired with Carragher they're worse than even those two ever were. I refuse to listen to any of it.
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Re: Sky Sports
« Reply #3651 on: December 5, 2023, 11:58:00 am »
Sky have dumbed down near enough every year since the days of Keys and Gray. Neville made a bit of an effort originally but paired with Carragher they're worse than even those two ever were. I refuse to listen to any of it.

It's gone from actual discussion to sound bites and soap drama with characters they've made of themselves for clicks. The over the top fake laughter is  :butt

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Re: Sky Sports
« Reply #3652 on: December 6, 2023, 03:52:06 pm »
What is the standard price of a package that provides sky sports (not  special offer)


I assume with 215 of the 380 games this will rise in price (TNT have 52 so 267 in total) and expect ticket prices to rise as well


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That's about 6m per game, in contrast the whole of Rugby League gets 20m a year (and it's probably better to watch except for watching us)
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Re: Sky Sports
« Reply #3653 on: December 6, 2023, 05:23:11 pm »
Even match income seems reliant on older generations (high average age of matchgoer at most grounds). Yet they seem determined to drive people away with bollocks like VAR which nobody wants, not to mention state owned clubs being allowed. It'll reach a tipping point in probably the next cycle.

Younger people just don't have the disposable incomes for things like 1000 season tickets (or eagerness to pay it) and aren't taking out Sky subscriptions. They do everything on their phone or stream, or their interaction with football is more via FIFA. Plus much lowered attention spans to actually watch a 90-100+ minute football match. The smart phone reduces everything to moments.

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Re: Sky Sports
« Reply #3654 on: December 6, 2023, 06:19:02 pm »
What is the standard price of a package that provides sky sports (not  special offer)


I assume with 215 of the 380 games this will rise in price (TNT have 52 so 267 in total) and expect ticket prices to rise as well


Bubble getting bigger


That's about 6m per game, in contrast the whole of Rugby League gets 20m a year (and it's probably better to watch except for watching us)

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Re: Sky Sports
« Reply #3655 on: December 6, 2023, 06:57:37 pm »
Even match income seems reliant on older generations (high average age of matchgoer at most grounds). Yet they seem determined to drive people away with bollocks like VAR which nobody wants, not to mention state owned clubs being allowed. It'll reach a tipping point in probably the next cycle.

Younger people just don't have the disposable incomes for things like 1000 season tickets (or eagerness to pay it) and aren't taking out Sky subscriptions. They do everything on their phone or stream, or their interaction with football is more via FIFA. Plus much lowered attention spans to actually watch a 90-100+ minute football match. The smart phone reduces everything to moments.

Do you have to pay in one go or can you spread the payments out?

The younger generation these days love subscribing to things on finance such as cars, phones, jewellery and even clothes. If they could spread the cost out over the season with some sort of contract, I'd bet they'd have more demand from younger people.