Topic: Star Trek

[Andy @ Allerton!]

Oh God never! I loooooooooooooved my A500 and 1200....Still on the lookout now for them

I've still got my A1200

(Accelerated with extra memory and a SDHC Harddrive )

[Nessy76]

Just back from Star Trek Beyond (always hear the voice of Suggs whenever I see that written down...) and I enjoyed it a lot, but I think it will disappoint some of the more traditional Trekkies in a similar way to the last two.

[So… Howard Philips]

Thought it a bit hyper and over loaded with effects. Little plot development.

[Brian Blessed]

Details on Star Trek: Discovery

It's in the Prime Universe.
It's set ten years before TOS.
The season-long storyline revolves around "an incident and an event in Star Trek history that’s been talked about but never been explored." The event was mention in TOS.
It's to be filmed at Pinewood between September - March.
It's debut is in January. In the UK and most of the world it will be on Netflix.
The lead character is human female, a Lt. Commander, "with caveats".
There will be more aliens on the crew than there usually are.
There will be a gay crew member.
The Reg Number is NCC-1301, which is significant for some reason.

This teaser shows the ship

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/Cxba2WjlN90" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/Cxba2WjlN90</a>

While it's not the final design, it's probably close as the design is based on a Ralph McQuarrie concept art for the unproduced Star Trek: Planet of the Titans:



It's heavily suggested that Spock's mother, Amanda Grayson, will be in this.
The opening scene is not on a planet.

I got this from various places, but this is the main one if you want to read a bit more.

http://tvline.com/2016/08/10/star-trek-discovery-amanda-grayson-spoilers-cast/


I'm not keen on the ship design, but if the characters and story are strong I probably won't care.

[Circa1892]

Shit ship design, and not madly keen on anything before the original series (Enterprise sort of showed how that doesn't work as it's so massively constrained by what comes after). That said, glad to see stuff back in the Prime timeline - and the fact they're doing no more than one series on each strand is a potential positive.

(Also - nerd style, would be interesting to see to what extent Enterprise is considered part of the "prime" timeline for the purposes of this show...).

[Brian Blessed]

Wouldn't all of Enterprise be in Prime as the split happened afterward?

[telekon]

Wouldn't all of Enterprise be in Prime as the split happened afterward?

Sure. But all canon is in the prime universe (bar some time travelling stuff) apart from the new films. Or am I missing something?

[Brian Blessed]

Sure. But all canon is in the prime universe (bar some time travelling stuff) apart from the new films. Or am I missing something?

no I think that's right.

[Circa1892]

Re-watched Enterprise for the first time since it was first one (hated it first time round).

It has a LOT of bad episodes in there, don't get me wrong. But some of the stuff in there is absolutely top notch. The series where they go into the expanse to stop earth being destroyed is one hell of a story arc for the pre-Netflix generation! Looking forward to the new series now.

[John_P]

50th anniversary today

[Art Vandelay]

Been watching a few TNG episodes on Netflix the last few days.  One or two of the episodes nearly made me cry....and, for a change, not because of Troi's acting.

[John_P]

Been watching a few TNG episodes on Netflix the last few days.  One or two of the episodes nearly made me cry....and, for a change, not because of Troi's acting.

I'd seen large parts of TNG and Voyager years ago so started DS9 from the beginning and it's been great so far.

[Chakan]

Been watching a few TNG episodes on Netflix the last few days.  One or two of the episodes nearly made me cry....and, for a change, not because of Troi's acting.

Watched TNG multiple times, there's really some fantastic episodes in it. Still my favorite of the Star Trek series.

[Nessy76]

I'd seen large parts of TNG and Voyager years ago so started DS9 from the beginning and it's been great so far.

Was never able to get into that one. Boldly not going anywhere at all, arguing with a ferenghi about his coffee shop, bloke who sleeps in a bucket, can't remember much else.

[Chakan]

Was never able to get into that one. Boldly not going anywhere at all, arguing with a ferenghi about his coffee shop, bloke who sleeps in a bucket, can't remember much else.

Kids running around a space station near a worm hole, yeah not for me either thanks.

[Circa1892]

Was never able to get into that one. Boldly not going anywhere at all, arguing with a ferenghi about his coffee shop, bloke who sleeps in a bucket, can't remember much else.

If you skip most of the first four series bar a few episodes, it's pretty much flawless from mid season 5 onwards. The Dominion War arc is stunning television.

Mad to think a show that got cancelled 47 years ago has had such an incredible cultural impact.

[Nessy76]

If you skip most of the first four series bar a few episodes, it's pretty much flawless from mid season 5 onwards. The Dominion War arc is stunning television.

Yeah, never got that far.

[Ray K]

Been watching a few TNG episodes on Netflix the last few days.  One or two of the episodes nearly made me cry....and, for a change, not because of Troi's acting.

I bet one of those was The Inner Light.  Patrick Stewart's finest episode.

[Brian Blessed]

TNG is my favourite television series ever. That's not to say it's the best. But there is a lot of nostalgia mixed in, the sort of thing I doubt I can have for any show in the future.

[Art Vandelay]

I bet one of those was The Inner Light.  Patrick Stewart's finest episode.

Not got that far yet...but I'm guessing it will get me in the feels as it always has done before.  The episode after Best Of Both Worlds where Picard goes back home definitely got me.

[Skeeve]

Yeah, never got that far.

It is worth persevering with, it starts out a bit weak, but there is an argument to be made that it was the best Trek series of that era.

Re-watched Enterprise for the first time since it was first one (hated it first time round).

It has a LOT of bad episodes in there, don't get me wrong. But some of the stuff in there is absolutely top notch. The series where they go into the expanse to stop earth being destroyed is one hell of a story arc for the pre-Netflix generation! Looking forward to the new series now.

That was the only one of the shows I didn't rewatch fairly recently, I don't really remember it that well, but I sort of remember thinking it was really bad, should I give it another try you reckon?

[Nessy76]

It is worth persevering with, it starts out a bit weak, but there is an argument to be made that it was the best Trek series of that era.

Might try diving into season five or something. Started watching TNG from the start a while ago. Some episodes of that I haven't seen since they were first broadcast, and there's probably a few I've missed altogether, especially in the later seasons, so if and when I get through all that, it might be a good thing to pick up.

[CraigDS]

Loved TNG, Voyager and DS9 - totally agree on the Dominion War being great TV.

Couldn't get into Enterprise at all, tried it a few times.

[Skeeve]

Might try diving into season five or something. Started watching TNG from the start a while ago. Some episodes of that I haven't seen since they were first broadcast, and there's probably a few I've missed altogether, especially in the later seasons, so if and when I get through all that, it might be a good thing to pick up.

Knew I had seen something along these lines before, here's a suggested list for a condensed viewing of DS9:

http://www.geek.com/news/star-trek-deep-space-nine-condensed-how-to-watch-the-most-story-driven-trek-1613741/

[Nessy76]

Knew I had seen something along these lines before, here's a suggested list for a condensed viewing of DS9:

http://www.geek.com/news/star-trek-deep-space-nine-condensed-how-to-watch-the-most-story-driven-trek-1613741/

Thanks for that!

[Brian Blessed]

Knew I had seen something along these lines before, here's a suggested list for a condensed viewing of DS9:

http://www.geek.com/news/star-trek-deep-space-nine-condensed-how-to-watch-the-most-story-driven-trek-1613741/

Brilliant. I don't know if I could slog my way through DS9 again, but that looks ideal.

[Slick_Beef]

Seasons 5 and 6 of DS9 are incredible, it's worth watching every episode of those two in my opinion. 4 and 7 both have great moments too (I always really loved "The Visitor", I found it really moving). Can't really remember much of the first three series though.

[CrasherKid79]

Watched TNG multiple times, there's really some fantastic episodes in it. Still my favorite of the Star Trek series.

I grew up on TNG. Sky One 5pm 5 days a week. My old man loved it. Turned me into a Trekkie almost by force.

[Skeeve]

I grew up on TNG. Sky One 5pm 5 days a week. My old man loved it. Turned me into a Trekkie almost by force.

For those a bit older, it would be 6pm on BBC2 for shows like that.

[Nessy76]

For those a bit older, it would be 6pm on BBC2 for shows like that.

Yes, remember the excitement when the first episode of TNG went out on BBC2. Front cover of the Radio Times and everything. There was nothing like it on tv at the time.

[bigal]

I bet one of those was The Inner Light.  Patrick Stewart's finest episode.

Probably my favourite Star Trek episode of any version

[pazcom]

Have both TNG and Voyager on series link from syfy channel, TNG is actually in HD. Could never get into DS9, might have to just get on with it as the posts above indicate it's good on the later seasons

[Ray K]

Star Trek: Discovery launch pushed back to May from January.  From Brian Fuller:

Bringing Star Trek back to television carries a responsibility and mission: to connect fans and newcomers alike to the series that has fed our imaginations since childhood. We aim to dream big and deliver, and that means making sure the demands of physical and post-production for a show that takes place entirely in space, and the need to meet an air date, don’t result in compromised quality. Before heading into production, we evaluated these realities with our partners at CBS and they agreed: Star Trek deserves the very best, and these extra few months will help us achieve a vision we can all be proud of.

[RedSince86]

Have both TNG and Voyager on series link from syfy channel, TNG is actually in HD. Could never get into DS9, might have to just get on with it as the posts above indicate it's good on the later seasons

Get on DS9 asap.

It's my favorite Star Trek series and they are right the last few seasons are fantastic.

[stewil007]

watched the first episode of TOS last night - The Man Trap - good stuff and can also see where red dwarf got the polymorph idea from.

Made me chuckle whenever there was a close up on Shatner, they certainly used to like using the soft filter on him didn't they??

[Andy @ Allerton!]

Shit ship design, and not madly keen on anything before the original series (Enterprise sort of showed how that doesn't work as it's so massively constrained by what comes after). That said, glad to see stuff back in the Prime timeline - and the fact they're doing no more than one series on each strand is a potential positive.

(Also - nerd style, would be interesting to see to what extent Enterprise is considered part of the "prime" timeline for the purposes of this show...).

Enterprise is in the Timeline.

In fact, I'm watching every episode of Star Trek ever made in Chronological order, starting from Enterprise, through to TOS then the TOS Films, then a mix of films, TNG, VOY and DS9

I'm half way through TOS so far.


This is the order I'm following.

http://thestartrekchronologyproject.blogspot.co.uk/

I've just watched Episode # 131 from that list (Amok Time - Tos, Series 2, Episode 1) - so I've got quite a few to go yet

[Circa1892]

Enterprise is in the Timeline.

It is indeed. I've watched it all the way through since I typed that. I'd forgotten that they effectively retconned the temporal cold war stuff when they killed off the aliens working with the Nazis.

Interesting watching Enterprise actually. I didn't like it at the time - but I feel it aged well. The final series had some absolute crackers in it - the format of two/three parters was great - and I thought Terra Nova was cracking television. And then they absolutely fucked it with that AWFUL Riker episode...

[Andy @ Allerton!]

It is indeed. I've watched it all the way through since I typed that. I'd forgotten that they effectively retconned the temporal cold war stuff when they killed off the aliens working with the Nazis.

Interesting watching Enterprise actually. I didn't like it at the time - but I feel it aged well. The final series had some absolute crackers in it - the format of two/three parters was great - and I thought Terra Nova was cracking television. And then they absolutely fucked it with that AWFUL Riker episode...

I'm not up to the TNG Episode (As I'm watching them in Chronological order

Spoiler

But I'm given to believe that the whole of Enterprise was a portrayal from a Holodeck or something??

[close]

[Brian Blessed]

I'm not up to the TNG Episode (As I'm watching them in Chronological order

Spoiler

But I'm given to believe that the whole of Enterprise was a portrayal from a Holodeck or something??

[close]

Spoiler

Enterprise episode, not TNG

[close]

[PhilV]

Was never able to get into that one. Boldly not going anywhere at all, arguing with a ferenghi about his coffee shop, bloke who sleeps in a bucket, can't remember much else.

DS9 Spoilers Below


DS9 gets really good with the War arc, forgot what series and the whole Dominion and Cardassians kicking up a fuss, I remember seeing an episode where there was a huge fleet battle of Starfleet ships VS Cardassians and Dominion and it was QUALITY

As for the new series, I mostly enjoyed Enterprise and I was a big fan of Voyager (probably my favourite) so we will see! I'm up for it! Not impressed with the ship though nor the timeline setting but always up for some ST