Topic: Kenny Dalglish - Would He Suit A Perm?

[theblackhumor]

I think by the time the season ends and we've improved drastically under him (which to be honest he's already done that part) and have finished above 7th then we should stick with Kenny.

Don't get this nonsense people are spouting that we should get a proven european manager or w.e. Kenny IS a proven manager and if we weren't banned from europe he'd have won us a few european cups with the team he managed at the time.

[markiv]

Brilliant post mate! Enjoyed it thoroughly!

[stroller]

Thanks & a very good piece of writing and had to read all of it as soon as I could. The bit that struck with me the most apart from his playing philosophy and coaching methods, was his understanding of the Liverpool Way not just in the playing side but the unity he is working towards that extends to all four sides of the club. He not only understandsthat but has it in ingrained in him. I was also struck by the statement to the sky reporter when he was asked about transfers when I 1st read it elsewhere and seeing it again here it filled me with pride and think it's worth repeating again:

“Well it’s a bit sad when you spin it onto the fans. We know more about our fans than yourselves do, so we know how they want to be treated and they know what we want. They want us to treat them with respect and they want us to treat them the way that Liverpool fans have always been treated by the club, and that’s, if we’ve got business to do we’ll do it behind closed doors, and once we’ve got something, a story to tell about anybody, then we’ll let you know. But we’ve no stories to tell about anything. I know whats going on, but it doesn’t mean to say I’ve got to tell you.”

I now relish watching games. Before it was like watching a car crash, so bad that you wanted to look away, but kept watching anyway because it was so awful. He has given us our pride back. I can now talk to fans from other clubs in response to their jibes and talk positively about how the club is being run on all 4 sides. It's a very good time to be a Liverpool Fan again. See my response to a bar codes fan when being critical of us on TIA:

Re: Welcome Andy Carroll - Liverpool's new number 9
 Originally Posted by Delusional geordie 
Fair enough you won't win the league or Champions league anytime soon period. I have my doubts that UEFA is actually going to pull these FFP rules off anyway. I do not think the Spanish or Italians are going to sanction anyone nosing around their Byzantine finances any time soon. UEFA is not a legal entity in the way a government is - it is just an old boys club. I hazard a guess at some point the major clubs will pull out of UEFA competitions and set up on their own just a the old First division said bye bye to the league in 1992. If not we can look forward to the Germans ruling Europe as they seem to be the only ones able to run a football club properly and Arsenal.

My response:
That's a good point that our owner has also touched on and is being reported today. It all depends on whether FIFA/ UEFA will follow this through. I still think that even if clubs cannot provide evidence of self sufficient spending, then they have it in their power to ban them from Europe. It's far easier saying that clubs can go it alone than the reality of actually doing it. When it gets to outside of the UK and the European game then Blatter et al are masters at divide and rule. You can be sure that there will not be a consensus among the clubs in Europe to breakaway as long as they continue to benefit from the existing structure, as so many do.

On another point I would rather we were a very good top 4 team and run well than be the champions and run by a sugar daddy. What happens to Chelsea when Roman leaves/ pops off and they have to deal with a 70 mil loss each year?

We are guaranteed to compete at the very top each year with our set up. I bet Ashley does not re-invest all the 35 mil that he got. He sees that as his money and not the clubs. How much of that do you think he will re-invest in players? Certainly not the 100% we re-invested, that we got from selling el ninny and Babel

[Vulmea]

message for the big man - to the tune of 'yesterday' .....quite apt really

King Kenny, all our troubles seem so far away
Now we hope that you are here to stay
Cos we believe, in King Kenny

King Kenny, all our troubles seem so far away
Now we hope that you are here to stay
Cos we believe, in King Kenny

clap,clap.....clap, clap, clap......clap, clap, clap, clap

DALGLISH

[buzzing]

Read the title and i thought it was about hairstyles lol

[kingkenny79]

I have a young son & a daughter.

Atm, they don't understand ABC let alone a football match, but 5-10 years from now, i hope they wold have the opportunity to feel how am i feeling atm, KK managing LFC. I had the privilege to watch KK as a player, as a player-manager, as our manager 1st time & now the 2nd coming.

Now FSG, pls let my young boy & daughter have the same oppurtunity.

[Stussy]

Splendid work Roy. Simply splendid.

My actual hat (Sunday afternoon trilby) that I am wearing right now is actually genuinely being doffed to you.

[llcooljoel]

Brilliant and informed article I have to say firstly. It made me realise that a lot of fans, myself included, have allowed the events of recent years to cloud their judgement of what it means to properly support your club. It's not about this player or that player, it's about the crest we represent and it's about recognising that the machine is always more important than the individual parts.

It's fair to say that I was nervous too about the King coming back in case it wouldn't work out how we'd hoped, but again right from the off the mood around the club changed and we could see the old spirit and pass and move mentality creeping back in, despite the hangover of nerves from Hodgson's regime. To think that our greatest living manager is back in charge once again, and that we have owners who actually share our passion and vision for the club, well, that excites me more than anything else. They've taken away the impatience and unrealistic expectations that have tarnished the last 20 years and they've quietly ushered in a new era of dignity, optimism and pride.

We've got a man in charge who ticks all the boxes in terms of what you'd want; a firm believer in youth, quick possession football, great sense of humour, loves the club as much as we do, treats the press like the frustrated wannabe footballers they mostly are (with a few notable exceptions!). The greatest compliment the media could pay him is that they haven't mentioned Hodgson, Benitez, or the two leeches in weeks now and are just enjoying the games same as we are.

The future's bright, the future's Kenny.

[Gnurglan]

I think we could be on to something here...

[rafathegaffa83]

Excellent OP

[vicgill]

Excellent OP

It certainly is, I can't understand how threads/posts like these are allowed to sink off the first page.

[royhendo]

My actual hat (Sunday afternoon trilby) that I am wearing right now is actually genuinely being doffed to you.

If it was possible for me to smile more, then I just smiled a bit more. He said "singing from the same hymn sheet" again btw. Need to update the o.p.

[Slightly Less Mediocre Baron Bennekov]

It certainly is, I can't understand how threads/posts like these are allowed to sink off the first page.

Because most people in here can't be arsed reading through long posts eventhough they're the posts that educate the most. If only people would read a little bit into them then they'd realize they actually would learn or discover something...

Again: Great post royhendo!

[Rojo O Muerto]

Think it's imminent. Dragged us well and truly out of the Abyss. Onwards and Upwards give Clarke a Contract too!

[the 92A]

Heard a post chelsea interview with Kenny  on Radio City and the reporter talks about the defence and dalglish pulls him, they're all defenders and they're all attackers, the fella goes on to praise meireles's goal and kenny says there were two players in the box and praises Kuyt's workrate. It's a pleasure to hear.

[jed the red]

Boss post, but according to Kelly, Marina would never let him have one.
oh.........and yes!

[vicgill]

Heard a post chelsea interview with Kenny  on Radio City and the reporter talks about the defence and dalglish pulls him, they're all defenders and they're all attackers, the fella goes on to praise meireles's goal and kenny says there were two players in the box and praises Kuyt's workrate. It's a pleasure to hear.

It's called being a manager Albie mate  .

[MiserableP15]

Very enjoyable read, and for someone who is experiencing Kenny's management properly for the first time, I can whole-heartedly say I'm enjoying every minute of it. From his touchline celebrations (so similar to his playing day goal celebrations) to his awe inspiring presence and press conferences, Kenny stands head and shoulders above every other candidate out there.

The only thing I'd change about your OP is that piece about Gerrard. As others pointed out, the skipper said exactly the same about Hodgson. I would say it's the quote/soundbite that carries the least resonance of all of them there.

From me, a big fat YES.

[Gerrard[LFC]]

Great great post, one of the most insightful posts I've ever read.
Dont know what Henry and co is thinking but the change in atmosphere and the way we are playing they are probably thinking 'why didnt we appoint him sooner' With everyone so unified, players, staff and supprters, FSG will be enjoying the anticipation of things to come.
As this continues, and I undoubtably think it will, they would see that Kenny would be the right choice, there wont be anything to change, the attitude and philosophy and mentality it is all there and as long as that continues FSG will be stupid if they changed anything other then smart investments on future facilities and players.
But like Kenny said after the victory against Chelsea, let take one game at a time and
see where that leads. If that is qualifying for Cl or Europe, FSG would be dumb to appoint anyone other then Kenny for the perm basis. Long live the King, YNWA~

[Kenny Red]

Great piece Roy.

You should work for the club in terms of quantifying the strategic sporting aspects of the club - your perception and observations of the subtleties of what is taken place within the club are fanatastic. You clearly have a strategic and tactical mindset.

Very informative and enjoyable

Thanks

[Mark Walters]

Thanks for that Roy - a really well researched and constructed article.

I really like the news that Kenny is getting the players to move after passing by giving a foul for standing still.  I hope this strategy is going all the way down to our youth teams because it's our philosophy and should be preached all the way through the club.  It's what Ronnie Moran used to do for so many years during our halcyon days (years) and we need to get back to some gone old-fashioned footballing principles.

[careca]

Some quality testimonials from our better players there regarding Kenny's way or working..

[SamAteTheRedAcid]

Yet another great piece Roy, as ever informative, entertaining and intelligent.

Have to admit I had my concerns over Kenny coming back, but think the hiring of Steve Clarke showed A) a willingness to delegate and B) that however long he'd 'been out of the game', Kenny knew who was good to help him out and fill those supposed gaps in his modern knowledge of the game.

Waiting for all the Evertonians who greeted me the day of Kenny's appointment with a Kendall-inspired 'Never go back!' to eat their words.

[Ben_]

Got me through a shocker of a lecture that Roy, so thanks, top read.

And an absolutely resounding yes.

Being 21, every day under Kenny has been dream like, and genuinely feel lucky to be able to relate to what my dad says now.  Long may it continue, he's making us dream again.

[Mark Walters]

Although I, like everyone else, am riding the wave of optimism brought about by Kenny and the upturn in the team's fortunes I'm going to reserve judgment on whether he should be a permanent fixture until the end of the season as I would do if it was a player.  I think we all remember people saying that Josemi was a good signing and look how that turned out.  Yes, I know you can't really compare the 2 because this is King Kenny after all, but still cautious optimism is the way to go for me.

[ronnnie yates]

give him the job ,and keep steve clarke , this fella is a cut above any other manager out there , he simply has to have the job , long live the king 

[vicgill]

Great piece Roy.

You should work for the club in terms of quantifying the strategic sporting aspects of the club - your perception and observations of the subtleties of what is taken place within the club are fanatastic. You clearly have a strategic and tactical mindset.

Very informative and enjoyable

Thanks

I wish I could understand what he's saying but I think it's complimentary so i will go with it and say "great piece Roy"   

[mercury]

Although I, like everyone else, am riding the wave of optimism brought about by Kenny and the upturn in the team's fortunes I'm going to reserve judgment on whether he should be a permanent fixture until the end of the season as I would do if it was a player.  I think we all remember people saying that Josemi was a good signing and look how that turned out.  Yes, I know you can't really compare the 2 because this is King Kenny after all, but still cautious optimism is the way to go for me.

The sentiment is well understood.  Indeed, meself I would very rather the owners make this decision on merits, not on fans clamouring, if you know what I mean.

But we know Kenny is no flash in the pan.  The quality on the pitch can't be denied.  He will make the job his.

[Scarlet`]

King Kenny, Steve Clarke and "he who cannot be named" with a role somewhere within the club, waiting patiently in line for Kenny to hang up his boots in another 10-15 years time:)

That would be a very very good line-up.

Two top managers together, both greatly respecting each other's strengths, how can not be the titans we were once again!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remember_the_Titans

 

When did Voldemort become a coaching staff?

So what's wrong with his hairstyle that warrants a perm?

[fowlermagic]

Reads like a bed time story where I know its only going to get better and I cant wait for bed tomorrow night so I can hear some more….lovely read that. 

[scatman]

great article, nodding my head in agreement to all of it

[Baz Smythe]

Its like FSG have said all along its all about the team.

Staff
Kenny - Motivator, in Shearers words "the best man manager of all"
Clarkey - Defensive coach and what he's doing now and did for Chelsea back when, he's more than upto the task
Sammy Lee - Attacking coach(pass and move) I have been a big critic but the King knows best
Damien Comolli - DOF Months ago we were looking at carlton cole and bobby zamora. now we have Suarez and Carrol nuff said
Segura and Borrell - will be a couple years before we really see their legacy come through but we need patience. Kelly is the first academy player since Gerrard who has got a guaranteed England place for years to come.

Owners
Henry, Werner and co. - Will not be bullied and were upset they couldn't spend more money. Seem like a dream but again will be a few years before we see their philosophy come to fruition.

Players - Are quality, whatever anyone says, they are. We knew this when they played under Rafa and Kenny knows it too. The squad could do with being a little bigger but that will take another year until we have a squad the size of Spurs or United

Fans - Its up to us to support the team. To shout louder than anyone else and stick up for the players through thick and thin rather than criticise them. 
 

[L666KOP]

Fantastic post Roy, I'm an owd git at 41 and remember the first time with Kenny.
Lots of the younger members on here will be experiencing him for the first time.
But for Heysel and Hillsborough, he'd be the longest serving manager the league's ever seen, he'd have seen Ferguson off years ago, and that 18-5 banner would have been out of date for the last 15 years.

Post's like this should be stickied, and every new member should be made to read it before they join.

Well in Roy.

[macca888]

Outstanding stuff Roy 

Just bumping it. I wish people would read articles like this than still be deliberating such things as why Torres is a sellout rentboy.

The only important thing now is the people still at our club, and King Kenny is the most important one for me. As I've said previously, the only one reason I was reluctant for him to take over was, not that I didn't want him, but because it would have broken my heart to hear some gobshite booing or giving him stick if things didn't go so well for him. Someone a while back convinced me otherwise so I wanted him back with a vengeance. Now though, I want him to keep the job as long as he wants. I believe in him, and I genuinely think he's the man, together with Steve Clarke and the continued support of the board, to get us back to the top. I just cannot see ANYONE who will ever understand our club as much as him. So it's a big yes from me.

[Mr Dilkington]

Bloody brilliant, expected nowt else.

[KopiteN1ck]

I think he needs to shave his hair off. The buzz cut is the LFC hairstyle of choice this season.


Hope kenny stays around for years to come!

[DaveLFC]

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Liverpool-Jamie-Carragher-has-used-1-99-bargain-bin-DVD-to-teach-clubs-youngsters-why-gaffer-Dalglish-is-known-as-King-Kenny-article693831.html

Liverpool's youngsters learnt why their gaffer is known as King Kenny thanks to a £1.99 bargain-bin DVD.

Long-serving defender Jamie Carragher popped out to buy the video so that 40 players could admire caretaker manager Kenny Dalglish’s Anfield career.

“A lot of the young academy players and even some of the first team are so young they had never seen him play," said Carragher.

“Everyone sat fascinated while the DVD was being screened, even if we did have a bit of a laugh about it coming from a bargain bin.

“When Kenny walked in, everyone was cheering. It was a great moment.”

Scotsman Dalglish, 59, played for the Reds from 1977-90 and took over as manager last month.

[Ryan M]

Funny to hear the players cheering then Dave. All helps in improving team ethics. Seems like Carra is understanding Sport Psychology already They just need to show the boys the Dalglish Anfield Rap mini video thing.

[Justin Siderbox]

I still think everyone is avoiding the big question....












Will Kenny keep his coat on zipped right up to the neck through to the end of May (even if it does hit 80 degrees in the shade on match day)?

Kenny? Supersticious?  Nah, surely not!