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General Football and Sport / Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé

« Last post by HeartAndSoul on Today at 05:25:33 pm »

All we need. 

Other additions would be top ups, or alternatives.

Mo is staying (apparently, which is excellent as he was he exceptional prior to that layoff).
Diaz has been our shining light for the past month
Doak will be back and I can see him having a breakout season (Slot adores wingers who specialise in one vs ones)
Given Slot's penchant for them another speedy winger may be brought in.
Jota, Gakpo (Firmino type role), Nunez, three options in the middle.

Midfield, we are stacked in the 8s.
A top class 6 we have been screaming out for since Fabinho collapsed. Midfield has been disjointed with 8s babysitting the slow 6, or one of the 8s (Mac) coming back to "do a job there". We need a proper 6 to get that midfield firing and balanced again, one who screens the back line and shuts off the easy access the opposition have had to our final third, one who frees up the 8s, benefiting both the defence and the attack.
Bajcetic is an interesting one; class player, but not sure of his exact role.

First choice back four, Robbo (along with Diaz our best player this month), Virgil (outstanding season despite no protection infront of him), Konate, Trent.  Title winning standard. Bradley and Quansah (breakout seasons), Gomez (mr versatile)...we are a bit thin on quality after that. Tsimikas put in a car crash of a performance vs Atalanta, so there is a possible upgrade as a backup there. A fourth CB option with Matip going would be wise.

Almost as if we haven’t learnt from previous seasons about standing still where it came back to bite us. We need to improve the squad. Our front line just doesn’t look like it’s quite right. There’s something missing there and we definitely need to bring in a front 3 player- that might mean letting one of the current lot go. As you’ve said, we need a holding midfielder. We also need a centre back. Virgil will be a year older and we can’t expect him to start every game and Konate is made of glass and can’t play more than a game a week or he’ll break down.  Ideally someone at the level konate was at when he joined us.

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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: New Kit thread

« Last post by Jon2lfc on Today at 05:22:33 pm »

Just reminds me of the beach ball game, that black shirt/gold shorts combination.

It's interesting how we all have different memories.

For me, it reminds me of a delicious header by Nando at OT to make it 1-0. Decent cross by Dirky boy as the assist.

AND it reminds me of Aquilani's debut for us v. Arsenal. I think it was the league cup. And Insua might have scored a worldie in it. Or did Degen have some star moment? Not sure. But deffo a good cameo from Aquilani.
Sadly, he turned out to be weaker than Aurelio and Thiago and I think he spent the majority of his time here in the sick room.
We all thought he would be our new Alonso at the time too lol

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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Mohamed Salah - Best in the World *

« Last post by KC7 on Today at 05:22:27 pm »

Read that Slot might wish to use him in a more creative central role. Shades of Digger's conversion into a top class midfielder, although Mo won't have lost all his pace like John did after his injury.

I only got that version of Barnes. His ability to retain possession was phenomenal. Wasn't what we needed though as a DM was paramount (like now) as that midfield was as open as a (insert pun about something being very open) and we won pretty much nowt largely because of it.

Roy finally attempted to address that imbalance by bringing in Ince, unfortunately he wasn't the man for the job.


Ecstatic about Mo. The injury wrecked what was turning out to be another exceptional season for him. A full pre season and a few key additions to the team and we can expect another quality season from him.

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General Football and Sport / Re: Arsenal: Top of the divers league

« Last post by Bullet500 on Today at 05:20:57 pm »

I blame social media for a lot. I used to really like Arsenal, good players never had issues with their fans. The past few years you see loads of their fans coming across as gobshites. That could be down to the fact the more abrasive you are the more attention you get and the algorithm of most liked and commented posts.

It's true for all fans on social media.

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News and Current Affairs / Re: India - deteriorating?

« Last post by Bullet500 on Today at 05:19:17 pm »

The latest trope of Hindu diaspora in the west is "Hinduphobia" when there is barely any. For the western racists, brown skin = Muslims and that's pretty much it.

Sikhs with kesh have it way worse.

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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation

« Last post by Draex on Today at 05:18:56 pm »

So you expect us to be perfect when with a new manager (and coaching staff), new players and a slightly different system?

To challenge, you have to be borderline perfect. Draw 2 games in a row and you're out as we found out last season.

Your expectations are unrealistic.

No a title challenge isn't being perfect, when the bedwetters over not signing Caicedo were going ham in the summer I said with this squad we could win a trophy and challenge for the league.. The squad will be improved, so the same aim should remain.

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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: New Kit thread

« Last post by redgriffin73 on Today at 05:18:11 pm »

Just reminds me of the beach ball game, that black shirt/gold shorts combination.

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News and Current Affairs / Re: India - deteriorating?

« Last post by Bullet500 on Today at 05:16:07 pm »

The level of discourse. And, of course the election commission doesn't do anything.

Spoiler

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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation

« Last post by Garlic Red on Today at 05:16:01 pm »

How can you not see the reason why we got away with minimal net spend over last 9 years?

Klopp practically didn't make a single meaningful mistake in the market over that period. It's a small miracle, it's why we'll be crying our eyes out in few weeks.

We either need to keep finding managers who perform like this or we need to up our spending significantly so the managers who are only human can be allowed to make mistakes and still be successful.

I’ve always found the net spend merchants to be a bit odd. I remember Paul Tomkins getting serious legwork out of the theory in the Benitez era, it made a lot more sense then because we essentially had to sell to buy after we’d signed a player or two. Having a low net spend really meant you struggled to make up ground, especially against United and particularly Chelsea, who spent at levels we’d never seen before or since.

However, to still be spouting off about net spend now is quite frankly ridiculous. How many of Klopp’s best players have the club sold? I think you could argue only Coutinho and we held onto him despite him doing his best to leave in the summer. Aside from that, who else is there? I can’t recall any player where I thought selling them will cripple us but it’s necessary to raise funds. The reason our net spend was relatively low was because we continued selling academy produced players and players purchased for small fees were flipped for good ones.

If people are going to talk about spend or net spend being some ultimate measure of success, you can’t just mention transfer fees, you have to look at total wages (not just players, include all staff as they play their part) and you have to add the context regarding the player sales that really impacted the squad. Otherwise the argument becomes a little hollow.

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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Mohamed Salah - Best in the World *

« Last post by cptrios on Today at 05:15:30 pm »

So...what would everyone's minimum offer be at this point? I'm all for keeping him for another season if he wants to stay, as with the lower physical demands next year there's no reason to think he can't perform. And just the fact of him wanting to stay here would add some positive vibes for Slot's first year. But if he's open to a move to Saudi and they offer us, I dunno, £80m?