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Re: Brookside vs Crossroads - FA Cup Semi Final, Sunday, April 19th
« Reply #80 on: April 16, 2015, 02:10:55 pm »
Skrtel and Gerrard are both back from suspension. Sakho is definitely out injured. Not sure on Sturridge or Lallana.

Cheers.  Hopefully both Gerrard and Skrtel will start as I see this being a very aggressive game.  Someone put up a gif on one of the other threads showing how Gerrard 'took care of' Fellaini's aerial threat in a fixture last season and I think we'll need more of the same against Benteke.

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Re: Brookside vs Crossroads - FA Cup Semi Final, Sunday, April 19th
« Reply #81 on: April 16, 2015, 02:31:54 pm »
I think Skrtel, Gerrard and Sturridge will all start.

We'll play a back 4 and we'll win.


                    Migs

Johnson      Skrtel     Lovren   Moreno

                  Lucas

    Gerrard             Henderson

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                         Sturridge


Or we could play a back 3, and we'll win.



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         Can      Skrtel     Lovren

Sterling    Lucas    Henderson   Moreno

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Re: Brookside vs Crossroads - FA Cup Semi Final, Sunday, April 19th
« Reply #82 on: April 16, 2015, 02:42:08 pm »
Come on Redmen!!

Keep the solidity at the back ad the fluidity and just improve the finishing through Sturridge back and all should be good
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Re: Brookside vs Crossroads - FA Cup Semi Final, Sunday, April 19th
« Reply #83 on: April 16, 2015, 02:44:54 pm »
Having watched them a bit, I don't think I can overstate how important it is that don't sit off out of possession. They're missing a lot of players and they've got a lot of injury doubts but they'll be confident after their win over Spurs and they're playing quite aggressively at the moment so we need to match that and not allow them to a) be able to play balls to Benteke in good positions on the left and b) get support around him. I doubt Sherwood will want to change too much so I think he'll stick with their 4-3-1-2 that they've been playing recently and look to take the game to us. If we stand off then they'll be able to not only push up the pitch but be able to press us aggressively because of their numbers through the middle. I could easily foresee us being put under pressure in periods and struggling to get out so we need to try and eliminate that possibility.

I think we have a number of options in terms of how we setup. It really is down to where Rodgers wants to target, if he has a particular space he wants to use. I could see him sticking with the back four and looking to get 2v1s in the wide areas - especially when Aston Villa go long for Benteke and condense narrowly trying to win the second ball, there will be space wide, so I think consistently switching the play quickly should help us to not get swamped by their narrow, hard-working midfield. The likes of Moreno running forward immediately when possession is won should find space. If their outside midfielders/shuttlers then go wide to mark on the flanks then space may well open up either side of their holding midfielder so we can use that either through our wide forwards, striker or Henderson making runs high up like he did against Newcastle.

The alternative would be to change back to a back three, which I think has its strong points as well. If we were to do so, we might see Skrtel go to RCB to deal with Benteke in the air, with Can sweeping up behind and that would also give us cover on the counter attack. The issue is whether we'd end up sitting off again and becoming a back five too often, which is why I think it might be a better possibility for us to start with the 3-4-3 diamond. Assuming Villa will stick with a diamond instead of changing it up, then a 3-4-3 diamond would enable us to match them in midfield, retain a spare man at the back and have two players pushed up against their full backs.



That might force us into closing them down high like we did in the second half against Swansea and though it might be more difficult for us to find 2v1s in the wide areas, we would probably play more aggressively as a result. The key whatever we do is to defend aggressively to push them back and to move the ball about well so that we can take advantage of whatever space they leave. If we were brave and started Markovic and Sterling as the sole flank players, we could get a lot of joy against their full backs - if we can get Sterling running as much as possible at Richardson we will definitely cause them problems. Alternatively we could choose to keep Moreno in over Markovic in order to provide some better width on the left or bring Markovic inside to play either at the tip or as one of the shuttlers in the diamond and take out Allen.
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Re: Brookside vs Crossroads - FA Cup Semi Final, Sunday, April 19th
« Reply #84 on: April 16, 2015, 02:45:13 pm »
Those picking Gerrard,  what exactly has he done in the last 4 months to justify a place in the team?  No room for sentiment or remeberances of his goal against Olympiakos or Istanbul.  The best 11 players doesn't include him any more. 
Rossiter absolutely bossed it tonight. Really believe he'll end up playing more games this season than Lucas.


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Re: Brookside vs Crossroads - FA Cup Semi Final, Sunday, April 19th
« Reply #85 on: April 16, 2015, 03:23:20 pm »
Those picking Gerrard,  what exactly has he done in the last 4 months to justify a place in the team?  No room for sentiment or remeberances of his goal against Olympiakos or Istanbul.  The best 11 players doesn't include him any more.

I get that. However we have very few players with big game experience so I think he'll play for that reason. Skrtel brings some of that too.

I'm honestly not sure if he or Allen would be best for the team (as that is the choice I guess) but my bet is BR will pick Gerrard.

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Re: Brookside vs Crossroads - FA Cup Semi Final, Sunday, April 19th
« Reply #86 on: April 16, 2015, 03:46:41 pm »
I get that. However we have very few players with big game experience so I think he'll play for that reason. Skrtel brings some of that too.

I'm honestly not sure if he or Allen would be best for the team (as that is the choice I guess) but my bet is BR will pick Gerrard.

Yeah, Gerrard showed all his big game experiance in the United game................ Oh wait.

That excuse is a load of horse shite, big game experiance means sod all.

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Re: Brookside vs Crossroads - FA Cup Semi Final, Sunday, April 19th
« Reply #87 on: April 16, 2015, 03:52:50 pm »
Yeah, Gerrard showed all his big game experiance in the United game................ Oh wait.

That excuse is a load of horse shite, big game experiance means sod all.

Until we get a pen in the last five minutes and we have Sterling or Markovic stepping up........

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Re: Brookside vs Crossroads - FA Cup Semi Final, Sunday, April 19th
« Reply #88 on: April 16, 2015, 04:06:38 pm »
Until we get a pen in the last five minutes and we have Sterling or Markovic stepping up........

It would be Henderson in that scenario. And I'd be amazed if Gerrard isn't on the pitch at the final whistle, but I don't think he will be at the start.
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Re: Brookside vs Crossroads - FA Cup Semi Final, Sunday, April 19th
« Reply #89 on: April 16, 2015, 04:24:55 pm »
Is flanno fit to start ? Maybe markovic can play at rwb because the thought of johnson playing rubbish as usual & with villa sole tactic is getting in crosses from the wings doesn't fill me confidence at all.

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Re: Brookside vs Crossroads - FA Cup Semi Final, Sunday, April 19th
« Reply #90 on: April 16, 2015, 04:42:52 pm »
Is flanno fit to start ? Maybe markovic can play at rwb because the thought of johnson playing rubbish as usual & with villa sole tactic is getting in crosses from the wings doesn't fill me confidence at all.

Doesn't look like it:

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Re: Brookside vs Crossroads - FA Cup Semi Final, Sunday, April 19th
« Reply #91 on: April 16, 2015, 04:58:32 pm »
Wooooooo! Just found out ive managed to bag tickets for this :D absolutely buzzing now. As much as i like Tim Sherwood, i hope his gilet is halfway down the pitch come full time.

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Re: Brookside vs Crossroads - FA Cup Semi Final, Sunday, April 19th
« Reply #92 on: April 16, 2015, 05:48:50 pm »
As much as i like Tim Sherwood, i hope his gilet is halfway down the pitch come full time.

Well he is obviously a protege of yours...
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Re: Brookside vs Crossroads - FA Cup Semi Final, Sunday, April 19th
« Reply #93 on: April 16, 2015, 05:49:24 pm »
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Re: Brookside vs Crossroads - FA Cup Semi Final, Sunday, April 19th
« Reply #94 on: April 16, 2015, 05:53:41 pm »
Well he is obviously a protege of yours...

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Re: Brookside vs Crossroads - FA Cup Semi Final, Sunday, April 19th
« Reply #95 on: April 16, 2015, 05:54:11 pm »
Can't believe this is the first time that Lucas will have ever played at Wembley.

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Re: Brookside vs Crossroads - FA Cup Semi Final, Sunday, April 19th
« Reply #96 on: April 16, 2015, 06:04:56 pm »
Those picking Gerrard,  what exactly has he done in the last 4 months to justify a place in the team?  No room for sentiment or remeberances of his goal against Olympiakos or Istanbul.  The best 11 players doesn't include him any more. 

Agreed 100%. I forgot that he was back in contention now -- can't believe that people are even considering him in all honesty. Has struggled massively all season (and for periods of last season too) and his recent showings in big games have been woeful. His legs have gone -- how many times does it need to be said? Also which of Lucas, Allen or Henderson - all of whom have been playing pretty well lately - do you drop to accommodate him? And what sort of message does it send out after he dropped us in it for one of the most important games of our season? Nah, sorry, but he should be an option on the bench and nothing more. Same goes for our remaining league fixtures as well as the final if we get there.
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Re: Brookside vs Crossroads - FA Cup Semi Final, Sunday, April 19th
« Reply #97 on: April 16, 2015, 06:11:17 pm »
I think it's gonna have to be a place on the bench for Sturridge (if fit) and Gerrard. Great impacts to have though.

I'd go back to a three at the back with Can, Skrtel and Lovren. Markovic and Moreno wing backs and Lucas and Allen sitting. Henderson and Coutinho behind sterling. If we want to pressure villa that would be the most preferable. It's very flexible, could push can into midfield and hendo wing back and move ibe behind sterling alongside coutinho later on in the game, or replace markovic for gerrard, sterling for sturridge etc. Lots of options.
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Re: Brookside vs Crossroads - FA Cup Semi Final, Sunday, April 19th
« Reply #98 on: April 16, 2015, 06:13:25 pm »
Can't believe people are dismissing Liverpool's greatest ever player from contention with such nonchalance. Maybe if we'd looked unplayable over recent weeks without him, it'd be understandable...But we haven't. Assuming 4 in midfield; Lucas, Henderson and Coutinho obviously play. Are we really saying Joe Allen HAS to play above the greatest player in Liverpool's history? ...The levels of dismissal, bordering on insults, amongst some in our support astonishes me.
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Re: Brookside vs Crossroads - FA Cup Semi Final, Sunday, April 19th
« Reply #99 on: April 16, 2015, 06:15:06 pm »
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Re: Brookside vs Crossroads - FA Cup Semi Final, Sunday, April 19th
« Reply #100 on: April 16, 2015, 06:16:37 pm »
Can't believe people are dismissing Liverpool's greatest ever player from contention with such nonchalance. Maybe if we'd looked unplayable over recent weeks without him, it'd be understandable...But we haven't. Assuming 4 in midfield; Lucas, Henderson and Coutinho obviously play. Are we really saying Joe Allen HAS to play above the greatest player in Liverpool's history? ...The levels of dismissal, bordering on insults, amongst some in our support astonishes me.

A bit OTT. Joe Allen is coming off the back of a good game, first premier league goal, why should he be dropped for Gerrard who can't last a whole match of this intensity? Plus Lucas and Gerrard in close proximity is a big fucking no no. Get gerrard on later in the game closer to the opposition goal.

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Re: Brookside vs Crossroads - FA Cup Semi Final, Sunday, April 19th
« Reply #101 on: April 16, 2015, 06:17:47 pm »
Can't wait for this. Well up for it.

I always find semi-finals more exciting than the actual final, for some reason.

Keep big Benteke quiet, and we'll be right.

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Re: Brookside vs Crossroads - FA Cup Semi Final, Sunday, April 19th
« Reply #103 on: April 16, 2015, 06:18:40 pm »
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Re: Brookside vs Crossroads - FA Cup Semi Final, Sunday, April 19th
« Reply #104 on: April 16, 2015, 06:34:28 pm »
Doesn't look like it:



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Re: Brookside vs Crossroads - FA Cup Semi Final, Sunday, April 19th
« Reply #105 on: April 16, 2015, 06:40:33 pm »
Can't believe people are dismissing Liverpool's greatest ever player from contention with such nonchalance. Maybe if we'd looked unplayable over recent weeks without him, it'd be understandable...But we haven't. Assuming 4 in midfield; Lucas, Henderson and Coutinho obviously play. Are we really saying Joe Allen HAS to play above the greatest player in Liverpool's history? ...The levels of dismissal, bordering on insults, amongst some in our support astonishes me.

I tend to agree with this. Gerrard has played a lot less this season and 4th is currently out of our hands. Last year he was an integral part of the team and we almost won the league. I won't turn it into an argument like that, I'm just saying it's possible to push an agenda with both sides of the coin.

If he plays, he plays. He's only suspended because he went over the top in trying to rectify shocking performances, aided by shocking attitudes, of the midfielders who played against United and who will play if he doesn't. People on this board have selective myopia at a level that Arsene Wenger would be proud of.

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Re: Brookside vs Crossroads - FA Cup Semi Final, Sunday, April 19th
« Reply #106 on: April 16, 2015, 06:47:57 pm »
Hey,

I'm selling train tickets from Liverpool to London going down Sunday and coming back Monday. Had to rearrange due to a funeral.  Does anyone know if there is a suitable forum on here I could use?

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Re: Brookside vs Crossroads - FA Cup Semi Final, Sunday, April 19th
« Reply #107 on: April 16, 2015, 06:59:41 pm »
Can't believe people are dismissing Liverpool's greatest ever player from contention with such nonchalance. Maybe if we'd looked unplayable over recent weeks without him, it'd be understandable...But we haven't. Assuming 4 in midfield; Lucas, Henderson and Coutinho obviously play. Are we really saying Joe Allen HAS to play above the greatest player in Liverpool's history? ...The levels of dismissal, bordering on insults, amongst some in our support astonishes me.

It's possible to think he's one of the greatest player's in our history and simultaneously think he's not currently good enough to be in our best starting XI

(otherwise following your logic that what a player has accomplished should dictate selection - Kenny should be playing on Sunday )

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Re: Brookside vs Crossroads - FA Cup Semi Final, Sunday, April 19th
« Reply #108 on: April 16, 2015, 07:12:00 pm »
It's possible to think he's one of the greatest player's in our history and simultaneously think he's not currently good enough to be in our best starting XI

(otherwise following your logic that what a player has accomplished should dictate selection - Kenny should be playing on Sunday )

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Re: Brookside vs Crossroads - FA Cup Semi Final, Sunday, April 19th
« Reply #109 on: April 16, 2015, 08:25:57 pm »
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Re: Brookside vs Crossroads - FA Cup Semi Final, Sunday, April 19th
« Reply #110 on: April 16, 2015, 09:02:23 pm »
I have to learn when to stop flogging a dead meme.

Why is this not the title of the thread?????

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Re: Brookside vs Crossroads - FA Cup Semi Final, Sunday, April 19th
« Reply #111 on: April 16, 2015, 09:06:10 pm »
Why is this not the title of the thread?????

Because "Brookside vs Crossroads" is better :D
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Re: Brookside vs Crossroads - FA Cup Semi Final, Sunday, April 19th
« Reply #112 on: April 16, 2015, 09:10:02 pm »
Obviously depends who's on the pitch but in terms of who have taken them for us before (actually scrap that given the Boro shoot out!...), but in terms of those who have been in the first choice 5 before and you'd have confidence in:

Lambert/Balotelli (on the assumption that one but probably not both would be on the pitch at the end of extra time)
Lucas
Johnson
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Henderson
Lallana (will he still be injured)

Wouldn't overly fancy Sterling or Sturridge (if fit). No idea on Markovic, Moreno or Coutinho.
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Re: Brookside vs Crossroads - FA Cup Semi Final, Sunday, April 19th
« Reply #113 on: April 16, 2015, 09:10:43 pm »
No way can Dejan play, the lad needs help.


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Re: Brookside vs Crossroads - FA Cup Semi Final, Sunday, April 19th
« Reply #114 on: April 16, 2015, 09:18:55 pm »
Until we get a pen in the last five minutes and we have Sterling or Markovic stepping up........

Haha, say what? Why would they step up then?

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Re: Brookside vs Crossroads - FA Cup Semi Final, Sunday, April 19th
« Reply #115 on: April 16, 2015, 10:50:01 pm »
I hope this doesn't come back and bite me on the cheeks, but
I reckon good old Tim has made a bit of a rookie mistake when he said after the spurs match that their tactic lately has been to get the ball to Benteke early. Obviously we will have seen that, and plan of for it, but I'm thinking more in the minds of the Villa players.. They're a relatively inexperienced bunch, will telling the whole world about it make them think twice about the early balls or maybe sub consciously try something else? Fucking hope so, because if so we could kill the game In the first half before they get the chance to reorganise.

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Re: Brookside vs Crossroads - FA Cup Semi Final, Sunday, April 19th
« Reply #116 on: April 16, 2015, 10:54:47 pm »
Brilliant work OP! Thoroughly entertaining.
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Re: Brookside vs Crossroads - FA Cup Semi Final, Sunday, April 19th
« Reply #117 on: April 16, 2015, 11:39:59 pm »
PoP. Your abilities hold no bounds, my friend!

Would be inclined to stick young Lazar at RWB for this one. Johnson's is heart attack material and not far away from a major fuck up, IMO. Hoping Sturridge is fit, however judging by his Instagram post last night, I'm not so sure?

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Re: Brookside vs Crossroads - FA Cup Semi Final, Sunday, April 19th
« Reply #118 on: April 16, 2015, 11:56:22 pm »
Is Ibe available for this?
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Re: Brookside vs Crossroads - FA Cup Semi Final, Sunday, April 19th
« Reply #119 on: April 16, 2015, 11:58:41 pm »
Three at the back, Can,Skrtel,Lovren. With Henderson and Moreno as wing backs, Lucas and Allen in center, with Gerrard,Sterling and Coutinho up front interchanging?