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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #640 on: December 14, 2019, 08:57:39 am »
Not that it matters much as 5 years is a long time, but right now I think Ljinders should be way, way ahead of Gerrard as Klopp's successor.

I tend to agree and perhaps he will be. Because there is no way Stevie should get the job just because of who he is. He is going to have to do extremely well over the next 5 years if he is to stand a chance. So we'll have to wait and see.
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #641 on: December 14, 2019, 09:04:13 am »
The interview Flon is referring to was with a German journalist. From the interview it was clear that Klopp probably wouldn’t be managing in 5 years or so time & would like to travel with his wife & children, after being out the public eye for some time.

I'm not saying he'll stay with us until he's 70 or anything like that, but don't be surprised if he extends his contract further in the future. Because like I said earlier in this thread, he caught the bug, he's fallen in love with Liverpool Football Club and I think he's going to find it extremely difficult to leave. Especially if the success keeps coming.
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #642 on: December 14, 2019, 09:09:59 am »
I tend to agree and perhaps he will be. Because there is no way Stevie should get the job just because of who he is. He is going to have to do extremely well over the next 5 years if he is to stand a chance. So we'll have to wait and see.

SG will need to do more than potter about the Scottish League if he has eyes on the Liverpool job. Souness had a decent spell up there and it ultimately didn't benefit us, or his subsequent jobs.
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #643 on: December 14, 2019, 09:12:48 am »
SG will need to do more than potter about the Scottish League if he has eyes on the Liverpool job. Souness had a decent spell up there and it ultimately didn't benefit us, or his subsequent jobs.

I was about to post the same. Maybe SG needs to move to a more competitive League, BundesLiga perhaps, to prove himself.

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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #644 on: December 14, 2019, 09:34:43 am »
I was about to post the same. Maybe SG needs to move to a more competitive League, BundesLiga perhaps, to prove himself.

Yeah, I'd suggest a lower German league and see if he can get a club promotion and keep it there.
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #645 on: December 14, 2019, 09:45:59 am »
Yeah, I'd suggest a lower German league and see if he can get a club promotion and keep it there.

That would be problematic given that he doesn't speak the language, as most German teams are rightfully against appointing non-German speaking managers.

Rangers are a good fit at the moment for displaying he can win trophies under pressure, however, ultimately there would be more value taking over a championship club and showcasing whether he can coach and improve young players. Sort of like what Brendan achieved at Swansea.
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #646 on: December 14, 2019, 09:46:34 am »
So, a few months ago when I spoke about Klopp's contract needing to be extended, people were sitting back laughing and relaxing that there's still some years to go and I said their behaviour is very much like the old Rick Parry years of Liverpool. Proven right with FSG far far from those lethargic years. Now, we continue to rule. You can't bring in players in the next 2 or 3 transfer windows and tell them to sign a 4 or 5 year contract so that maybe this or that manager will come in. Steven Gerrard? Love the guy, but he needs to prove himself before we even talk about him. We're talking about the world's greatest machine here, not giving the job to your favourite son.

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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #647 on: December 14, 2019, 09:49:11 am »
That would be problematic given that he doesn't speak the language, as most German teams are rightfully against appointing non-German speaking managers.

Rangers are a good fit at the moment for displaying he can win trophies under pressure, however, ultimately there would be more value taking over a championship club and showcasing whether he can coach and improve young players. Sort of like what Brendan achieved at Swansea.

Continental experience is important for top managers these days, so if not Germany he should have a crack at Spain. He must have picked up some languages over the years.
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #648 on: December 14, 2019, 09:54:18 am »
SG will need to do more than potter about the Scottish League if he has eyes on the Liverpool job. Souness had a decent spell up there and it ultimately didn't benefit us, or his subsequent jobs.

So did Ferguson...

Lets stick to Jurgen...
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #649 on: December 14, 2019, 10:01:50 am »
I was convinced that Klopp would see out his contract until 2022 and then leave, as he has been very honest about how he wants the opportunity to travel and still be able to do other things while he’s still fit. It had been playing on my mind at times, because if you look at our current squad and the stage they are at in there careers - Salah/Mane/Firmino 27, Virgil/Matip 28, Gini/Hendo 29 - they’re all playing close to their peak and by 2022 would need phasing out (Virgil and Matip aside). With this coinciding with Klopp leaving, you’d worry about how we’d cope with such a big turnover. This extension gives Klopp a chance to bleed in a new ‘generation’ and allow the next manager to take over where he effectively left off.

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« Reply #650 on: December 14, 2019, 10:19:26 am »
Really good news. Klopp has done a great job.

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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #651 on: December 14, 2019, 10:21:05 am »
I was convinced that Klopp would see out his contract until 2022 and then leave, as he has been very honest about how he wants the opportunity to travel and still be able to do other things while he’s still fit.

If he wants to travel we should let him have a pre-season off - he could pack a lot into three months  ;D

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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #652 on: December 14, 2019, 10:24:46 am »
So did Ferguson...

Lets stick to Jurgen...

Oh please. Ferguson broke the old firm duopoly on the Scottish title, which alone showed he had something special.  Still took him more than half a decade to find his feet in the English game though.

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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #653 on: December 14, 2019, 10:31:16 am »
Jesus wept, just stick to Klopp maybe? Stevie has had one proper managerial job and he’s doing well so far, just leave him to it and see where we are in the future. We’re the only ones obsessing over ‘is he good enough to manage us’.
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #654 on: December 14, 2019, 10:42:03 am »
I was convinced that Klopp would see out his contract until 2022 and then leave, as he has been very honest about how he wants the opportunity to travel and still be able to do other things while he’s still fit.

Yeah, let me tell you this. After speaking to him, I was also worried how he's going to get that rest he so deserves but let me tell you something. If he wins the league this season, even though he is going to be tired, that's going to give him a real zing in his system that will cure any tiredness.

Don't believe, here are two examples:

1. I've been working like 10 to 12 hours daily due to the amazing success in my life where I'm an inspiration for many but boy is it difficult to find time and sometimes it can be psychologically testing, but you find an hour here or there to do some high-level research and healthy living (instead of just Lebowsking around) and the value of those hours are so good that it's like the relativity of time where you can pack so much in magical moments. You then talk to your beloved ones about how valuable they are, how amazing and effective they are in achieving their goals (winning the Premier League, Champions League, saving a lion whatever...) and I tell you, hey, that zing and mojo is right back.

2. Now, let me tell you from personal experience. You got a beautiful 40-year-old wife in the prime of her career and it's amazing, you know what I mean, wink wink nudge nudge, know what I mean... round the clock stuff and something you wonder at your age if you can keep up with her you get so tired and fatigued that you have to check the science of nutrition and don't use those damaging pills (the v word) and then I discovered these amazing 18-year-old pure girls and I have to say, you can say how much you want about the scientific method of discovering rest periods, but once you got some of that, the energy levels somehow automatically kick in and skyrocket, man, the mojo is really back without a manual, you really throw that schedule out of the window and you loving working that day and night. Let me tell you from my advice, nobody will be complaining about schedules, lack of rest and lack of Christmas holidays after that.
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #655 on: December 14, 2019, 10:46:05 am »
Posted this elsewhere, but sod it, posting it here as well. Klopp is a wonderful man.

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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #656 on: December 14, 2019, 10:58:00 am »
Klopp till 2029. Pep till 2043. 15 Champions League titles and 12 league titles between them. Sorted. Dont know why people overthink this.

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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #657 on: December 14, 2019, 11:09:14 am »
Fuck the sentimentality. If Stevie wants the job, let him earn it by winning the big trophies across Europe with top teams. In the meantime, shall we please fucking cherish the best manager Liverpool have had in my lifetime? The one that has us 8 points clear at the top of the league following a 97 point season and a CL title. We're privileged to be watching this team managed by Jurgen. The obsession with our history weighed us down for three decades. The first manager to truly turn us into the best team in Europe is the guy that came in and told the players that they had to earn the right to touch the Anfield sign. Let's consign sentimentality to the bin. 
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« Reply #658 on: December 14, 2019, 11:18:04 am »
Think it was quite clearly the other way around.  :D
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #659 on: December 14, 2019, 11:41:14 am »
Jesus wept, just stick to Klopp maybe? Stevie has had one proper managerial job and he’s doing well so far, just leave him to it and see where we are in the future. We’re the only ones obsessing over ‘is he good enough to manage us’.

I'm responding to people putting two and two together and making 5 when it comes to two contracts expiring at the same time. Cos right now SG ISN'T good enough to manage us imo, and we've yet to see any sign that he will be in the future.

Weve got a manager, and personally I'm fairly satisfied with him.
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #660 on: December 14, 2019, 11:44:47 am »
I remember the last time we brought a former playing legend from Rangers to be our manager. I don't think Stevie will be at Rangers when Klopp leaves, he is too ambitious to stick around in the Scottish League.

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« Reply #661 on: December 14, 2019, 11:56:04 am »
Is Stevie even the right fit when it comes to style of play? Edwards and Co are no mugs and won't fall in the Ole-trap, they will recruit the right manager. Anyways that disussion is years away, a lot will happen until then.

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« Reply #662 on: December 14, 2019, 11:57:30 am »
Fuck the sentimentality. If Stevie wants the job, let him earn it by winning the big trophies across Europe with top teams. In the meantime, shall we please fucking cherish the best manager Liverpool have had in my lifetime? The one that has us 8 points clear at the top of the league following a 97 point season and a CL title. We're privileged to be watching this team managed by Jurgen. The obsession with our history weighed us down for three decades. The first manager to truly turn us into the best team in Europe is the guy that came in and told the players that they had to earn the right to touch the Anfield sign. Let's consign sentimentality to the bin.

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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #663 on: December 14, 2019, 12:11:41 pm »
Jesus wept, just stick to Klopp maybe? Stevie has had one proper managerial job and he’s doing well so far, just leave him to it and see where we are in the future. We’re the only ones obsessing over ‘is he good enough to manage us’.

Yep, it’s really odd. Some are totally obsessed with telling us they don’t want a bloke managing us for a job that won’t even be available for years and years anyway. Thought the new contract would stop that rubbish but instead people just changed to “Don’t want Gerrard in 2024” instead.

We’ve got the best manager on this earth. The job isn’t available, won’t be for half a decade at least, and for the ones crying themselves to sleep about an appointment 5 years away I think the board have done enough to suggest they won’t appoint someone based on his playing past. So can we concentrate on the managerial god we currently have?!

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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #664 on: December 14, 2019, 01:23:07 pm »
I was convinced that Klopp would see out his contract until 2022 and then leave

Me too - to extent that I was giving reasons for my view in other threads.

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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #665 on: December 14, 2019, 03:07:30 pm »
Jurgen Klopp:"I saw Qatar weather forecast. It's raining, so it's like home games to us"  ;D  I love this guy.
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #666 on: December 14, 2019, 03:09:41 pm »
Jurgen Klopp:"I saw Qatar weather forecast. It's raining, so it's like home games to us"  ;D  I love this guy.

his weather obsession cracks me up.

Even yesterday in that little video he did to announce he'd extended his contract he pointed out he signed it on a 'bad weather day'  ;D  A little nod to his agent's jokey comments from a few weeks ago there, which the English media took seriously!

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« Reply #667 on: December 14, 2019, 03:11:09 pm »
his weather obsession cracks me up.

Even yesterday in that little video he did to announce he'd extended his contract he pointed out he signed it on a 'bad weather day'  ;D  A little nod to his agent's jokey comments from a few weeks ago there, which the English media took seriously!

Odds on he mentions the wind in today's press conference.  ;D
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« Reply #668 on: December 14, 2019, 03:11:37 pm »
Odds on he mentions the wind in today's press conference.  ;D

I'd be disappointed if he didn't  ;D

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« Reply #669 on: December 14, 2019, 03:53:54 pm »
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #670 on: December 14, 2019, 07:38:10 pm »
Fuck the sentimentality. If Stevie wants the job, let him earn it by winning the big trophies across Europe with top teams. In the meantime, shall we please fucking cherish the best manager Liverpool have had in my lifetime? The one that has us 8 points clear at the top of the league following a 97 point season and a CL title. We're privileged to be watching this team managed by Jurgen. The obsession with our history weighed us down for three decades. The first manager to truly turn us into the best team in Europe is the guy that came in and told the players that they had to earn the right to touch the Anfield sign. Let's consign sentimentality to the bin.
Spot on for me.

We spent far too long being over-sentimental. We spent far too long trying to recreate old glories too. A club just up the motorway is going the same route now, and look what it's doing to them. What Liverpool needed to shake it out of its relative malaise was a man who acknowledged and respected our history and heritage, but was going to build something of his own, in his own way. The Liverpool dynasty was built by ruthless men. Often iron fists in velvet gloves, but still ruthless all the same. You had to earn your right to come to Liverpool, and you had to earn your right to stay there too. Klopp has taken a new broom and swept away the sentimentality that was hampering us. What we see now is the crop growing from the seed he's sown.

The last thing our club ever needs is to return to those over-sentimental days once more. If Gerrard ever does return here as manager, it will have to be not because he was an immense player, but because he's developed into a great manager too. He earned his stripes as a player and a playing legend, but in management he is only just starting out. Now we have exactly the right mentality again, Liverpool FC must do what is best for Liverpool FC, and not get involved in sentiment again in areas where cool, thought-out and highly important decisions have to be made.
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« Reply #671 on: December 14, 2019, 07:44:38 pm »
If you are replacing maybe the best manager in the world you're looking at hopefully the very top 5% of managers in world football. Love Stevie but as far as being a manager is concerned he needs to prove he's one of the very best. Thankfully it's going to be a long time until then.
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« Reply #672 on: December 14, 2019, 07:48:59 pm »
If you are replacing maybe the best manager in the world you're looking at hopefully the very top 5% of managers in world football. Love Stevie but as far as being a manager is concerned he needs to prove he's one of the very best. Thankfully it's going to be a long time until then.
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #673 on: December 14, 2019, 08:59:13 pm »
I was convinced that Klopp would see out his contract until 2022 and then leave, as he has been very honest about how he wants the opportunity to travel and still be able to do other things while he’s still fit. It had been playing on my mind at times, because if you look at our current squad and the stage they are at in there careers - Salah/Mane/Firmino 27, Virgil/Matip 28, Gini/Hendo 29 - they’re all playing close to their peak and by 2022 would need phasing out (Virgil and Matip aside). With this coinciding with Klopp leaving, you’d worry about how we’d cope with such a big turnover. This extension gives Klopp a chance to bleed in a new ‘generation’ and allow the next manager to take over where he effectively left off.

or he will renew again :D

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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #674 on: December 14, 2019, 09:00:14 pm »
My mum just mistook Romesh Ranganathan for Klopp...

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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #675 on: December 14, 2019, 09:01:30 pm »
My mum just mistook Romesh Ranganathan for Klopp...

I don’t know where to start...

Well, they both wear glasses I guess.  :o
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #676 on: December 14, 2019, 09:56:00 pm »
Fuck the sentimentality. If Stevie wants the job, let him earn it by winning the big trophies across Europe with top teams. In the meantime, shall we please fucking cherish the best manager Liverpool have had in my lifetime? 

No sentimentality indeed... You may be a legend on the field as a player and forever in Liverpool's history but that doesn't entitle you to be the manager and no doubt FSG would not allow such a mistake. To manage Liverpool you need to be one of the best in the game and equally have an incredibly charismatic personality (in my view that's part of the identity of the club... as build by Shankly). I think no one matches Klopp on that level and I really hope he'll be here for the next 10 years.
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #677 on: December 14, 2019, 10:41:57 pm »
No sentimentality indeed... You may be a legend on the field as a player and forever in Liverpool's history but that doesn't entitle you to be the manager and no doubt FSG would not allow such a mistake. To manage Liverpool you need to be one of the best in the game and equally have an incredibly charismatic personality (in my view that's part of the identity of the club... as build by Shankly). I think no one matches Klopp on that level and I really hope he'll be here for the next 10 years.

I’m far far too young to be an authority on this but isn’t the general consensus that Paisley was very different to Shankly (much quieter, reserved etc)? Just saying we don’t necessarily need to find a carbon Klopp copy when the time comes (thankfully very far away now anyway!).


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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #678 on: December 14, 2019, 10:58:16 pm »
My mum just mistook Romesh Ranganathan for Klopp...

I don’t know where to start...

Maybe Klopp used to be a high school math teacher?
Or maybe he makes fun of his kids and wishes he never had them?
Or maybe he is just darn funny?
Or maybe he speaks with a Sri Lankan accent?

What might it be!
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #679 on: December 14, 2019, 11:18:45 pm »
Interesting to hear that Klopp said it was important that all three of the management staff (Klopp/Krawietz/Lijnders) wanted to extend contracts, without them he wouldn't have. I have to admit that I was a bit worried when Buvac left but I think Lijnders has been a brilliant replacement and I think we have improved massively since his appointment. To think, he was brought in by Rodgers, we have alot to be grateful for from Brendan as he laid some good foundations. Klopp has since joined everything together and taken us on to another level.     

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