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Re: Premier League Fixtures 16th - 18th September
« Reply #1080 on: September 18, 2023, 09:36:54 pm »
what an idiot, 3 game suspension coming up Lyle Foster, for one moment of madness, and for what, it’s a decent result for them if this holds.

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 16th - 18th September
« Reply #1081 on: September 18, 2023, 09:37:09 pm »
I think that's harsh. Hardly violent?
He swung his elbow with force into the chest of the other player.

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 16th - 18th September
« Reply #1082 on: September 18, 2023, 09:37:29 pm »
One thing is clear, both of these sides are better than the ev.
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Re: Premier League Fixtures 16th - 18th September
« Reply #1083 on: September 18, 2023, 09:37:39 pm »
I think that's harsh. Hardly violent?

even though it wasn’t in the face, it was a clear and deliberate elbow.

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 16th - 18th September
« Reply #1084 on: September 18, 2023, 09:37:44 pm »
I think that's harsh. Hardly violent?

He's elbowed him? How is that not violent conduct?

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 16th - 18th September
« Reply #1085 on: September 18, 2023, 09:37:57 pm »
Did he even touch him?

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 16th - 18th September
« Reply #1086 on: September 18, 2023, 09:37:58 pm »
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Re: Premier League Fixtures 16th - 18th September
« Reply #1087 on: September 18, 2023, 09:38:07 pm »
I think that's harsh. Hardly violent?
It’s absurd.

If he sees that he gives no more than a yellow …at worst

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 16th - 18th September
« Reply #1088 on: September 18, 2023, 09:38:30 pm »
Was it Worrall he elbowed?
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Re: Premier League Fixtures 16th - 18th September
« Reply #1089 on: September 18, 2023, 09:38:55 pm »
Burnley have United and Newcastle in their next 3. What a feckin idiot.
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Re: Premier League Fixtures 16th - 18th September
« Reply #1090 on: September 18, 2023, 09:40:12 pm »
One thing is clear, both of these sides are better than the ev.
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Re: Premier League Fixtures 16th - 18th September
« Reply #1091 on: September 18, 2023, 09:40:52 pm »
The fucking arrogance of this ref….I appreciate it might be (just about….that happens 100s of times a week in amateur football) a sending off but the theatrical way it’s done is awful, I used to think it was just us but I’m more and more convinced the referees and officials in this country are a huge problem

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 16th - 18th September
« Reply #1092 on: September 18, 2023, 09:41:59 pm »
Another dreadful intervention by VAR....two players jostling, grappling in the box, the likes of which you seen a few dozen times in every game....no way was that a red fuckin card offence....
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Re: Premier League Fixtures 16th - 18th September
« Reply #1093 on: September 18, 2023, 09:42:23 pm »
Burnley have United and Newcastle in their next 3. What a feckin idiot.

Not the worst games to miss though from a team perspective, at least it's not games where he could be a decisive factor like a Luton or Everton.

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 16th - 18th September
« Reply #1094 on: September 18, 2023, 09:42:45 pm »
Another dreadful intervention by VAR....two players jostling, grappling in the box, the likes of which you seen a few dozen times in every game....no way was that a red fuckin card offence....

He elbowed him?

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 16th - 18th September
« Reply #1095 on: September 18, 2023, 09:43:07 pm »
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Re: Premier League Fixtures 16th - 18th September
« Reply #1096 on: September 18, 2023, 09:43:34 pm »
10 minutes injury time because of VAR nonsense. VAR adds nothing but hassle.
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Re: Premier League Fixtures 16th - 18th September
« Reply #1097 on: September 18, 2023, 09:44:27 pm »
He is a horrible ref.
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Re: Premier League Fixtures 16th - 18th September
« Reply #1098 on: September 18, 2023, 09:45:32 pm »
Weird how people see things two different ways. For me he has deliberately elbowed him in the chest. Yes you see players push someone off with their elbow/arm in the box when there is some grappling, but in this case he hits him with it intentionally.
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Re: Premier League Fixtures 16th - 18th September
« Reply #1099 on: September 18, 2023, 09:45:58 pm »
Why are you rooting for Tory town here?

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 16th - 18th September
« Reply #1100 on: September 18, 2023, 09:57:53 pm »
Another dreadful intervention by VAR....two players jostling, grappling in the box, the likes of which you seen a few dozen times in every game....no way was that a red fuckin card offence....
that was my view watching it live. but on MNF they just shown an angle from the sideline ,and no option other than to send off, it was violent conduct
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Re: Premier League Fixtures 16th - 18th September
« Reply #1101 on: September 18, 2023, 09:59:07 pm »
It's a red all day. Although fellani made a career out if it.
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Re: Premier League Fixtures 16th - 18th September
« Reply #1102 on: September 18, 2023, 10:02:00 pm »

Lyle Foster red card against Nottingham Forrest 90+4' - https://dubz.co/c/2c17b0 & https://twitter.com/SkySportsPL/status/1703871504658715058
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Re: Premier League Fixtures 16th - 18th September
« Reply #1103 on: September 18, 2023, 10:02:24 pm »
linesman can elbow anyone

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 16th - 18th September
« Reply #1104 on: September 18, 2023, 10:07:56 pm »
Lyle Foster red card against Nottingham Forrest 90+4' - https://dubz.co/c/2c17b0 & https://twitter.com/SkySportsPL/status/1703871504658715058

Has he even touched him? From that angle I can't see the actual elbow hitting him
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Re: Premier League Fixtures 16th - 18th September
« Reply #1105 on: September 18, 2023, 10:08:11 pm »
Once Hudson scored I thought "game over man".

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 16th - 18th September
« Reply #1106 on: September 18, 2023, 10:11:12 pm »
Has he even touched him? From that angle I can't see the actual elbow hitting him

Yep. If you check Jasons replays and zoom in, on the slow mo you see his shirt ripple and move across his chest with his elbow. You do need the slow motion to see it though.

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 16th - 18th September
« Reply #1107 on: September 18, 2023, 10:12:22 pm »
There's one angle where you can see he gives him a proper dig.  Red all day.
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Re: Premier League Fixtures 16th - 18th September
« Reply #1108 on: September 18, 2023, 10:12:32 pm »
Yep. If you check Jasons replays and zoom in, on the slow mo you see his shirt ripple and move across his chest with his elbow. You do need the slow motion to see it though.

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 16th - 18th September
« Reply #1109 on: September 18, 2023, 10:13:01 pm »
There's one angle where you can see he gives him a proper dig.  Red all day.

Unless you're a linesman.............
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Re: Premier League Fixtures 16th - 18th September
« Reply #1110 on: September 19, 2023, 12:36:31 am »
It's very early days but the top and bottom four feel like they could be pretty set already.

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 16th - 18th September
« Reply #1111 on: September 19, 2023, 08:35:07 am »
10 minutes injury time because of VAR nonsense. VAR adds nothing but hassle.

Still don't understand the crying about this.
Most of the added time is the fault of the players.
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Re: Premier League Fixtures 16th - 18th September
« Reply #1112 on: September 19, 2023, 09:15:05 am »
Still don't understand the crying about this.
Most of the added time is the fault of the players.

Agreed. I think that an introduction of a stopwatch would improve the game of football massively ...

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 16th - 18th September
« Reply #1113 on: September 19, 2023, 09:22:39 am »
Still don't understand the crying about this.
Most of the added time is the fault of the players.

Its actually the referees down the years letting them get away with murder that has caused all this and the players haven't cottoned on yet, or they think it'll only last a week or two then it'll stop, so they go ets see if this is the week they stop enforcing the new rules.. The referees need to make it clear they won't take any shit, get them all together before the game and state "I will not take any bullshit, you time waste, you play act and I ill book you straight away, I don't care if its the first minute or the last and I will send you off", then actually do it and do it in EVERY game, not just a select few. How did Sheff Utd /Spurs have 13 mins yet Everton/Arsenal only had 4? We had subs, a goal, a death in the first half and we got 4 mins. We've already seen that yellows for waving cards only applies to Mac Allister, yellows for throwing the ball away only applies to Trent and basn for swearing at officials only applies to Virg (I KNOW yellows are at an all time high, but we've seen card waving, timewasting and telling a linesman to fuck off all go unpunished this weekend).

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 16th - 18th September
« Reply #1114 on: September 19, 2023, 09:27:20 am »
Booking keepers for time wasting is a farce. Even when a ref does do it it doesn’t change much because keepers know a ref is very unlikely to give them two yellows for time wasting in the same game. I went to Brentford v Bournemouth a few weeks back and Neto got booked, and then pushed his luck to a ridiculous degree and got away with it.

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 16th - 18th September
« Reply #1115 on: September 19, 2023, 09:32:59 am »
Booking keepers for time wasting is a farce. Even when a ref does do it it doesn’t change much because keepers know a ref is very unlikely to give them two yellows for time wasting in the same game. I went to Brentford v Bournemouth a few weeks back and Neto got booked, and then pushed his luck to a ridiculous degree and got away with it.

Yep, it's totally pointless. If you're going to book them once, book them a second time, it's the only way they'll all stop doing it.

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 16th - 18th September
« Reply #1116 on: September 19, 2023, 09:53:14 am »
Booking keepers for time wasting is a farce. Even when a ref does do it it doesn’t change much because keepers know a ref is very unlikely to give them two yellows for time wasting in the same game. I went to Brentford v Bournemouth a few weeks back and Neto got booked, and then pushed his luck to a ridiculous degree and got away with it.

It still puts the goalkeeper in danger, especially if he is booked early for time wasting. You can get a second yellow for variety of reasons ...

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 16th - 18th September
« Reply #1117 on: September 19, 2023, 10:03:47 am »
Think with the 6 second rule it seems very harsh to give an indirect free kick in the box if a keeper has misjudged the time by a few seconds. Thats why refs overlook the rule. Refs have let it get out of hand though.
Think it's best to double it to 12 seconds or even 15 seconds and enforce it every time on the dot. The keeper should not need more than that and if they take it they are asking for it. Don't think a card is required as the proximity of the indirect free kick is punishment enough. Unless they keep doing it of course which would be pretty stupid.
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Re: Premier League Fixtures 16th - 18th September
« Reply #1118 on: September 19, 2023, 10:07:56 am »
Think with the 6 second rule it seems very harsh to give an indirect free kick in the box if a keeper has misjudged the time by a few seconds. Thats why refs overlook the rule.
Think it's best to double it to 12 seconds or even 15 seconds and enforce it every time on the dot. The keeper should not need more than that and if they take it they are asking for it. Don't think a card is required as the proximity of the indirect free kick is punishment enough. Unless they keep doing it of course which would be pretty stupid.

Have a timer located somewhere so they can see it. Maybe even multiple locations. Works perfectly well in the NBA and has been used for players taking set shots in AFL.
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Re: Premier League Fixtures 16th - 18th September
« Reply #1119 on: September 19, 2023, 10:09:25 am »
Booking keepers for time wasting is a farce. Even when a ref does do it it doesn’t change much because keepers know a ref is very unlikely to give them two yellows for time wasting in the same game. I went to Brentford v Bournemouth a few weeks back and Neto got booked, and then pushed his luck to a ridiculous degree and got away with it.
Something I'd like to see clamped down on is players obstructing the goalkeeper when they have the ball in hand. We see it all the time with Alisson after he's saved a shot or caught a cross, players will stand in front of him to try and stop him playing the long ball to one of our forwards.

There's a rule in place to stop this but it's never enforced. 

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