Author Topic: A different kind of Football - Fernando Diniz | Fluminense  (Read 706 times)

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Didn't know where to put this, so I just created a new thread. Mods, please do what thou wilt with this..

A weird, but relatively successful philosophy from Diniz(at least this year). He's dumped convention for a more free "system" which emphasizes relationships between players in order to deal with the various situations during a match. He flat-out rejects the European philosophy of creating and exploiting space in favor of these on-field relationships.
His players even reject massive holes of space, preferring to instead play in congested areas, in close proximity to each other, thereby making the pitch much smaller.

Makes me think of 7-a-sides and quick kickabouts between mates. The "social" game!

I think it's fitting that it's a Brazilian coach who's doing this since it typifies the early intuitive style of football that Brazil was known for before it was also "formalized".

Very interesting, and I might start following some of their matches.

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« Last Edit: May 21, 2023, 01:29:02 am by the_red_pill »
"Some listen to understand. Others listen to respond."
"A fool does not delight in understanding, but only in revealing his own mind."
In such a sumptuous festival of shite, I wouldn't be so quick to pick a winner..

But he'd make the shortlist

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Re: A different kind of Football - Fernando Diniz | Fluminense
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2023, 11:50:27 am »
Great stuff. Have forwarded to Roy. ;)

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Re: A different kind of Football - Fernando Diniz | Fluminense
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2023, 03:53:47 pm »
Great stuff. Have forwarded to Roy. ;)
Thanks mate!
"Some listen to understand. Others listen to respond."
"A fool does not delight in understanding, but only in revealing his own mind."
In such a sumptuous festival of shite, I wouldn't be so quick to pick a winner..

But he'd make the shortlist

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Re: A different kind of Football - Fernando Diniz | Fluminense
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2023, 08:48:15 am »
An update to this thread, especially now that Diniz is interim Brazil coach and it illustrates some of the issues that Diniz had to deal with in getting the players to respond to Relationism.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/-k74UUe-l68" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/-k74UUe-l68</a>

The latest top comment says it all really:

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Diniz has mentioned in one of his interviews that "Brazil was trying to follow european football style, with positional football and lack of individual plays, style which was developed to play against Brazil in previous decades". This quote itself reveals so much because, why are we brazilians trying to follow this play style instead of improving ours, which has been so successful for so long?
« Last Edit: September 16, 2023, 08:52:06 am by the_red_pill »
"Some listen to understand. Others listen to respond."
"A fool does not delight in understanding, but only in revealing his own mind."
In such a sumptuous festival of shite, I wouldn't be so quick to pick a winner..

But he'd make the shortlist