Topic: Sunderland

[DutchRed]

You'd be out of your mind thinking this is on Moyes honestly. Last year they just about got out of jail with every bit of luck in the world and Defoe hitting top form. Both have deserted them and they're left with nothing. Be interesting who goes down with them and Hull.

[BeautifulGame91]

It's not Moyes but the dreadful squad Sunderland have, & it could be too late by the time Moyes is sacked, they've been like Villa in the brink  for a few seasons but it catches up with you, & like Villa i can't see them coming back up anytime soon as that squad is dreadful.

They were pretty decent after the January window last season .

On top of that he has spent £30mil and produced this woeful start .

Just yesterday they were looking decent till he decided to replace Kazhri with a defender and decided to hang on for a point against West Ham (who had the worst defence in the league ) with fifteen minutes to go .
He did exactly the same with Defoe against City and conceded goals at the death in both games .

Sunderland squad is bad he has a major part to play in their awful start .

[MagicHat]

It isn't all on Moyes, Sunderland have been poor for awhile, Big Sam did engineer an escape but clearly felt he needed reinforcements and wasn't getting them, the squad is poorer then it was last season. However Moyes hasn't done well, none of his additions seem to have worked, his negativity seems to stifling the side, can't seem to get them to concentrate for 90 minutes, it wouldn't be harsh for him to be sacked if this continues much longer.

Sunderland will need a rebuild in the championship.

[pyroparty]

You'd be out of your mind thinking this is on Moyes honestly. Last year they just about got out of jail with every bit of luck in the world and Defoe hitting top form. Both have deserted them and they're left with nothing. Be interesting who goes down with them and Hull.

Some of it clearly is, it's his tactics and him who chose to come in and "strengthen" the squad with some bums from Man Utd that no one has ever heard of and apparently Lorient couldnt believe their luck that they come in with nearly £14m for that Ndong fella.

[Lush is the best medicine...]

https://twitter.com/victoranichebe/status/790182035323293696

Can you tweet something like

Unbelievable support yesterday and great effort by the lads! Hard result to take! But we go again!

When stuff like this happens you know they're fucked

[classycarra]

It's not Moyes but the dreadful squad Sunderland have, & it could be too late by the time Moyes is sacked, they've been like Villa in the brink  for a few seasons but it catches up with you, & like Villa i can't see them coming back up anytime soon as that squad is dreadful.

it's moyes

people are saying 'well they only just survived thanks to an amazing run from allardyce at the end'. well yeah, that's called momentum. leicester did the same thing and started their next season (with a new manager, but same players) maintaining that momentum.

sunderland's squad is hugely inbalanced, but moyes contributed more to that than to actually improve it. his training methods have set in, hence the 5 or 6 muscle injuries they have at the minute. his cowardly approach to football has also set in. they've conceded more late goals than any other team for a reason. he's always too scared and too lacking in a playing style to do anything other than retreat and play negative in a desperate hope of not losing (always sticks, never twists).

sunderland are identifying a problem correctly - inconsistency between managers, and a poorly balanced squad - but are backing the wrong man to fix it. keeping moyes for the long term is only going to compound their future status as a championship club

[BlackandWhitePaul]

Another game, another loss.

Golum sent into the stand by the Ref a few minutes before time.   

[4pool]

Another game, another loss.

Golum sent into the stand by the Ref a few minutes before time.   

gutted you can't thrash them in the next round, eh..

[BlackandWhitePaul]

gutted you can't thrash them in the next round, eh..

ohh yes, absolutely.

[Ciara (with a capital "C")]

https://twitter.com/RobbieW1892/status/791396217280495616

HAHAHA!

[KissThisGuy]

https://twitter.com/RobbieW1892/status/791396217280495616

HAHAHA!

 

That's either an incredible put-down by the Moyesiah or an incredible moment of absent mindedness.

[Stand Free]

https://twitter.com/RobbieW1892/status/791396217280495616

HAHAHA!

Meant to post this earlier, found it hilarious

[Yiannis]

They'll take points off Arsenal on Saturday.

[newterp]

They'll take points off Arsenal on Saturday.

that would be wonderful - but in reality they will be thrashed.

[MancEunuchian]

https://twitter.com/RobbieW1892/status/791396217280495616

HAHAHA!

Such typical Moyeseh

[Floydy]

going down this year, and long over due, they are becoming that dull unattractive midweek game that nobody is arsed about.
Poorly run club, and feel sorry for the fans who are loyal and passionate.

[classycarra]

https://twitter.com/RobbieW1892/status/791396217280495616

HAHAHA!

the man's a mess. that's two interviews in a row he's been too seething to make any sense. rocking back and forth, while asking hypothetical questions of the interviewer and just exuding hate.

the man is done as a manager, unless he drops down to the championship or goes back to preston. his expectation managing form of leadership ("we're getting relegated", "we're smaller than liverpool", "we don't spend money") might still be bought by his old club.

[The North Bank]

They'll take points off Arsenal on Saturday.

I feel that too, think it'll be 0-0, they've actually been very solid under Moyes, just keep losing 1-0.

[armchair-fan]

I'm off to see these playing the Arse tomorrow as a little half term trip out, after failing to get any tickets for us versus Spurs, despite the extra capacity.

It'll feel a little odd backing Moyes Boys, could they sneak a win?  I'm anticipating 4 or 5 for Arsenal, with huge numbers walking out when the 3rd or 4th goes in, and a torrent of abuse for The Chosen One, which would be a spectacle of sorts.

My only previous visit was to watch a 0-0 bore draw between Sunderland and Villa about 5 or 6 years ago, which was one of the worst games I've ever watched, but was salvaged by a decent night out in the Toon afterwards, but no chance of that this time around with child in tow.

[Hazell]

My only previous visit was to watch a 0-0 bore draw between Sunderland and Villa about 5 or 6 years ago, which was one of the worst games I've ever watched, but was salvaged by a decent night out in the Toon afterwards, but no chance of that this time around with child in tow.

You're already subjecting the poor child to watching a Moyes side, I think he deserves at least a night on the town for that.

[Yiannis]

I feel that too, think it'll be 0-0, they've actually been very solid under Moyes, just keep losing 1-0.

You'll win by four goals mate. They are utter shit.

[BlackandWhitePaul]

Not much atmosphere at this game ehh.   

[Robinred]

Khazri...

Sums up Sunderland - inadequate technique, poor decision making, next to zero confidence, a vicious circle.

They need a fluke, a sudden unexpected stroke of good fortune. The football gods tend to reserve such things for others.

[jooneyisdagod]

Just shit. Can't string a pass together for the most part.

[Robinred]

Twice now in this game, "hard man" Coquelan has rolled around like a dying gangster in a '30s movie.

Twat. 3-1 - all over.

[Bangin Them In]

Possibility of some security work for Moyes with Christmas coming up

[rafathegaffa83]

Sunderland in a nutshell:

Number of permanent managers since 2010/11: 7

Number of Directors of Football since 2010/11: 2

Number of Chief Executives since 2010/11: 3

Number of seasons since 2010/11 with 40 points or more: 2

Number of signings age 17 or older (loans and permanent) Sunderland have made since 2010/11: 91

2010/11 - 11
2011/12 - 14
2012/13 - 12
2013/14 - 19
2014/15 - 11
2015/16 - 14
2016/17 - 10

Approximate number of players they've made a profit on since 2010/11: 9

Kenwyne Jones - Paid £6m; sold for £8m
Martyn Waghorn - Free; sold for £3m
Darren Bent - Paid £10m rising to £16.5m; sold for £18m rising to £24m
Jordan Henderson - Free; sold for £16m
Simon Mignolet - Paid £2m; sold for £9m
Ahmed Elmohamady - Paid £500,000; sold for £2m
James McLean - Paid £350,000; sold for £1.5m
Costel Pantilimon - Free; Sold for £500,000
Jordi Gomez - Free; Sold for £500,000


Number of homegrown youth players, who have played more than five PL games for Sunderland during this period: 3 (Henderson; Colback; Pickford)
Number of former Man Utd youth players, who have played more than five PL games for Sunderland during this period: 7 (Welbeck; Richardson, Bardsley, Campbell, Brown, O'Shea, McNair)*

* Donald Love has currently played in 3 PL games for Sunderland

[Kopenhagen]

Should be sacked.

[Doc Red]

Meant to post this earlier, found it hilarious

I love the awkward silence between Moyes saying "I don't know who Kavanagh is", and the reporter replying "the referee". You could almost feel the surprise of the reporter, it feels like he almost took an extra second to evaluate if Moyes was trolling him or if he really was that ignorant.

A season with Mourinho at United, Moyes in the league, and Klopp at our helm, how truly wonderful.
If only Giggs and Martinez could return to really form the icing on a wonderful cake.

[Lush is the best medicine...]

Should be sacked.

the manager? The players? The board?

Bunch of bums these, the villa comparison is very apt, when you look at the other two relegated last season you had Norwich who are basically filled with players who are excellent championship/not quite PL level and Newcastle who just underachieved mostly under a shite manager but had decent players to build off (Perez, wijnaldum, sissoko, Janmaat, lascelles, Krul) from that squad of last season and they had a few they could/can shift for £10m+, genuinely can't see any of their squad going for much more than £5m bar Pickford at a stretch, maybe Kone seeing as the shite wanted to pay £20m for him in the summer. Need totally gutting.

[The North Bank]

You'll win by four goals mate. They are utter shit.

I see you've watched them more than I have. We did our best to screw things up but this Sunderland team are so bad, they'd even lose to last season's Villa.

[BlackandWhitePaul]

Full time, hard lines Mackems, you's done your best.    😂

[ZeusMetallica]

What a clusterfuck of  a club. It's a great time to play them, as once they get a new manager in, they could get that temporary revival clubs get under a new gaffer.

[gamble]

relegated and the clocks haven't even gone back yet!

[classycarra]

gutted we couldn't play them before moyes left

[Yiannis]

I see you've watched them more than I have. We did our best to screw things up but this Sunderland team are so bad, they'd even lose to last season's Villa.

Honestly mate,  they may be worse than Derby 07/08. Can't remember constantly seeing a team unable to exchange more than two passes or less threatening.

[Wabaloolah]

https://twitter.com/RobbieW1892/status/791396217280495616

HAHAHA!

fucking hell what an absolute helmet

[Sarge]

Not just Moyes fault this mess, to be honest not his fault at all. Sunderland have an awful squad with bang average players. They will go down.

[Ray K]

gutted we couldn't play them before moyes left

There's no way he lasts until Nov 26th, is there?  Dammit.

[Ycuzz]

So bad it's borderline impressive!