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Re: Brazil - The next country to fall to the right
« Reply #200 on: October 17, 2020, 12:41:56 am »

Politician stuffed £4,500 in the underpants he was wearing during raid by anti-corruption police
Senator Chico Rodrigues insists he is innocent and that he will "prove that I have nothing to do with any illicit act".

A key ally of Brazil's president has been arrested after anti-corruption officers discovered a wad of banknotes in the underpants he was wearing.

Police initially found 10,000 reais (£1,380) and £4,650 inside a safe in Senator Chico Rodrigues' house during a search on Wednesday.

He then asked if he could go to the bathroom - and according to the police report, an officer noticed a large, rectangular bulge under the senator's shorts as he walked off.

"Found inside his underwear, near his buttocks, were stacks of money that totalled 15,000 reais (£2,000)," the report stated.

When asked a further three times whether he had any additional cash stowed in his underpants, the senator angrily shoved his hand into his underwear to retrieve more stacks of bills totalling 17,900 reais (£2,500).

A subsequent search turned up another 250 reais (£35).


Rodrigues, Jair Bolsonaro's deputy leader in the senate, has now been suspended.

He was targeted as part of an investigation into the alleged misappropriation of COVID-19 funds.

Rodrigues said in a statement: "My home was invaded for having done my job as a lawmaker, getting resources for the state to combat COVID-19.

"I believe in justice and I will prove that I have nothing to do with any illicit act."

Mr Bolsonaro won the Brazilian presidency in large part due to his vow to take on crime and corruption.

But since then, his administration has been marred after his justice minister, Sergio Moro, resigned earlier this year - alleging the president had sought to intervene improperly in the federal police.

There are also investigations under way that target the president's sons, who are both lawmakers.

Following the arrest of Rodrigues, Mr Bolsonaro said: "We are combating corruption; it makes no difference who the person is."

https://news.sky.com/story/anti-corruption-police-discover-4-500-stuffed-in-underpants-of-senior-brazilian-politician-12105222

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Re: Brazil - The next country to fall to the right
« Reply #201 on: November 12, 2020, 01:57:04 am »

Bolsonaro:

"All anyone talks about these days is the pandemic. We need to stop that."

"I regret the deaths. I really do. But we're all going to die someday. There's no use fleeing reality. We have to stop being a country of fags.... We have to face up to it and fight. I hate this faggot stuff."

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/in-a-homophobic-outburst-jair-bolsonaro-tells-brazil-not-to-deal-with-coronavirus-like-f-gs


"Everyone who has wealth cannot say that he is happy, no, he has to be careful with wealth because he is full of trickster with an eye on it. And Brazil is a very rich country."

"We have just seen a great candidate for the head of state say that if I do not put out the fire in the Amazon, it will raise trade barriers against Brazil. And how can we deal with all this? Only diplomacy is not enough, isn't it, Ernesto [ Araújo, Chancellor]? When you run out of saliva, you have to have gunpowder; otherwise, it doesn't work."

https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/internacional/en/world/2020/11/bolsonaro-takes-swipe-at-usa-president-elect-joe-biden-and-threatens-to-defend-amazon-with-gunpowder.shtml

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« Reply #202 on: November 12, 2020, 10:22:06 am »
Imagine how much Trump can stuff down his undies, the tango blimp.

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Re: Brazil - The next country to fall to the right
« Reply #203 on: November 12, 2020, 10:45:12 am »
Bolsonaro:

"All anyone talks about these days is the pandemic. We need to stop that."

"I regret the deaths. I really do. But we're all going to die someday. There's no use fleeing reality. We have to stop being a country of fags.... We have to face up to it and fight. I hate this faggot stuff."

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/in-a-homophobic-outburst-jair-bolsonaro-tells-brazil-not-to-deal-with-coronavirus-like-f-gs


"Everyone who has wealth cannot say that he is happy, no, he has to be careful with wealth because he is full of trickster with an eye on it. And Brazil is a very rich country."

"We have just seen a great candidate for the head of state say that if I do not put out the fire in the Amazon, it will raise trade barriers against Brazil. And how can we deal with all this? Only diplomacy is not enough, isn't it, Ernesto [ Araújo, Chancellor]? When you run out of saliva, you have to have gunpowder; otherwise, it doesn't work."

https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/internacional/en/world/2020/11/bolsonaro-takes-swipe-at-usa-president-elect-joe-biden-and-threatens-to-defend-amazon-with-gunpowder.shtml

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« Reply #204 on: November 12, 2020, 11:51:50 am »
Trust me I really dislike that prick as much as the next person but I believe he said 'Maricas'? If so that's not 'fag' it's more like 'sissy' or something in-between.

Still a derogative word towards gay people but not 'fag'. There is no reason why it bothers me other than tabloids spouting shit and whether they do it against someone I like or dislike it still grates on me.

The guy is a twat and it is still a derogative word and an absolute fucking embarrassment for a president to say that, he's said a whole lot worse than that too. Hopefully with his little buddy Trump getting kicked out he'll be next, no one left to cosy up to now so he must be shitting himself hopefully.

 

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« Reply #205 on: November 12, 2020, 11:51:55 am »
Brazilians ought to be taking notes on the US for the coming few months, so they can be better prepared for the threat when Bolsonaro has to transition from power (working on the optimistic assumption that this happens)

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« Reply #206 on: November 13, 2020, 06:31:21 am »
Brazilians ought to be taking notes on the US for the coming few months, so they can be better prepared for the threat when Bolsonaro has to transition from power (working on the optimistic assumption that this happens)

I hope you’re right but the landscape of Brazilian politics is very different to the US. Much more uncertain about Bolsonaro being voted out and considering how close trump came to winning would be surprised, at this point, if he lost

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Re: Brazil - The next country to fall to the right
« Reply #207 on: November 13, 2020, 10:16:55 am »
I hope you’re right but the landscape of Brazilian politics is very different to the US. Much more uncertain about Bolsonaro being voted out and considering how close trump came to winning would be surprised, at this point, if he lost

Agree with you. My brazilian friend has a lot of faith in the constitution, but I'm always wary of his optimism. The dictatorship is still a living memory for much of the country. A strong but young constitution is only as effective as the faith in its institutions and democracy that people have.

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Re: Brazil - The next country to fall to the right
« Reply #208 on: March 8, 2021, 11:09:45 pm »

Brazilians ought to be taking notes on the US for the coming few months, so they can be better prepared for the threat when Bolsonaro has to transition from power (working on the optimistic assumption that this happens)

Here is hopefully the start of that process.     :wave

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"Brazilian Supreme Court just invalidated the criminal convictions of ex-President Lula da Silva, restoring his political rights and rendering him eligible to run against Bolsonaro in 2022. He was leading all polls when convicted in 2018."

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« Reply #209 on: March 9, 2021, 12:17:07 am »
Here is hopefully the start of that process.     :wave

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"Brazilian Supreme Court just invalidated the criminal convictions of ex-President Lula da Silva, restoring his political rights and rendering him eligible to run against Bolsonaro in 2022. He was leading all polls when convicted in 2018."

This is big news. Hopefully these far right populists are out one by one (Modi, Erdogan are equally dangerous).
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« Reply #210 on: March 9, 2021, 07:54:58 am »
This is big news. Hopefully these far right populists are out one by one (Modi, Erdogan are equally dangerous).

I cannot see the UK voting out their current government for many years (if ever).

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Re: Brazil - The next country to fall to the right
« Reply #211 on: July 14, 2021, 08:31:41 pm »
Bolsonaro may have emergency surgery after hiccups persist for over 10 days

President transferred to São Paulo to determine if procedure necessary after surgeon diagnoses him with bowel obstruction

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/14/bolsonaro-brazil-hospital-hiccups

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« Reply #212 on: July 14, 2021, 08:37:40 pm »
Bolsonaro may have emergency surgery after hiccups persist for over 10 days

President transferred to São Paulo to determine if procedure necessary after surgeon diagnoses him with bowel obstruction

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/14/bolsonaro-brazil-hospital-hiccups

He's literally full of shit ;D

He'll be hoping that operation goes without any unexpected setbacks.

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« Reply #213 on: July 15, 2021, 12:14:48 pm »
He'll be hoping that operation goes without any unexpected setbacks.


We can but hope the hospital staff mix up 'anaesthetic' and 'cyanide'

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« Reply #215 on: September 20, 2022, 11:01:35 am »
Nice that we could try and give him a poll boost:

Met handcuff peaceful anti-Bolsonaro protester to delight of Brazil’s far right

Police accused of unnecessary force as president’s son shares video of detention to show Britons ‘don’t like communists either’


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The Metropolitan police have been accused of using unnecessary force and handing a propaganda coup to Brazil’s far right after a peaceful demonstrator was detained and handcuffed during a protest outside the Brazilian ambassador’s London residence.

Ali Rocha, a 50-year-old Brazilian and British citizen, and her flatmate were intercepted by officers on Sunday lunchtime as they joined a protest against Brazil’s radical rightwing president, Jair Bolsonaro, who was in the UK for the Queen’s funeral.

Rocha, who was carrying three placards denouncing Bolsonaro’s assault on the Amazon and a backpack containing a loudhailer, was not arrested or charged with any offence.

But she said she was handcuffed for about 20 minutes before being released and escorted past a group of Bolsonaro supporters who had also gathered outside the ambassador’s Mayfair home.

“I was very shocked and shaken and now I’m just angry and disgusted,” said Rocha, a Brazil-born producer and journalist who is a British citizen.


Footage of the incident has been distorted and used to smear the left on social media by members of Brazil’s far right.

Bolsonaro’s politician son Eduardo Bolsonaro shared images of Rocha’s detention with his more than 6.5m followers on Twitter and Instagram, falsely claiming she had been arrested by police. “Woman in [leftwing] T-shirt was arrested while trying to disrupt pro-Bolsonaro protest,” he wrote beneath the minute-long clip.

As Rocha is handcuffed, a narrator in the footage celebrates the police action, saying: “They don’t like communists here [in the UK] either. Look, they’re handcuffing her. She’s been handcuffed and she’s going to jail.”


A Metropolitan police spokesperson confirmed that shortly after 1.10pm on Sunday police stopped two women “who they had reason to suspect may have been in possession of items to commit criminal damage”.

“Both women were searched. One of the women was initially placed in handcuffs to safely facilitate the search after she repeatedly ignored instructions not to place her hands in her pockets. The handcuffs were subsequently removed,” the spokesperson added.

“No items of concern were found on the two women who were stopped and they were allowed to continue on their way without any further action.”

The spokesperson declined to comment on how footage of the incident was being used as far-right propaganda, because of the political nature of the issue.

The incident comes after civil liberties campaigners voiced alarm over the police response to anti-monarchy protesters in the lead-up to the Queen’s funeral.

Rocha, the co-founder of a campaign group called Brazil Matters, said she had wanted to protest Bolsonaro’s “absurd and disrespectful” attempt to exploit the Queen’s funeral for political purposes.

Brazil is two weeks away from a presidential election in which Bolsonaro looks likely to lose power. Reports in the Brazilian media suggested he thought rubbing shoulders with world leaders in London might boost his flagging campaign.

“We didn’t want him to come to London unchallenged,” Rocha said.

“We wanted to protest about his policies of death, his destruction of the Amazon, the genocide of black and Indigenous peoples and the general disrespect to human rights.”

Rocha, who was a friend of Dom Phillips, the British journalist murdered in the Amazon in June with Indigenous expert Bruno Pereira, said she was approached by police shortly after reaching the street on which Bolsonaro was staying.

“They came straight at me … [One male officer] grabbed me by the arm and just started taking me to this corner and while he was talking to me he was holding both my wrists really strong. He was hurting my wrists. I was asking him: ‘Why are you holding me? Let me go.’”

“He kept saying: ‘We’ve received some intel that someone in a red T-shirt was going to commit criminal damage … so I’m going to search you and you are detained,” added Rocha, who was wearing a red T-shirt at the time.

Soon after the officer “got the handcuffs out and turned me around and handcuffed me with my hands behind my back”.

“I was in a state of shock … we knew the police were on high alert because of the funeral and all the state leaders that were here but we never expected anything like that.”


Footage of the incident seen by the Guardian shows a male officer searching Rocha’s pockets before handcuffing her and saying: “I told you, ‘Don’t go reaching towards your pockets again – and you reached’ … It’s not my fault you chose not to listen.”

“I felt very disrespected. I’ve never been handcuffed before. I’ve never been detained before,” said Rocha. “Why was I treated this way? So violently, so aggressively.”

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/sep/20/met-handcuff-peaceful-anti-bolsonaro-protester-to-delight-of-brazils-far-right


Our police forces, particularly the Met, are an absloute disgrace!  Doesn't help that the majority will be 'right wing', I suppose.
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Re: Brazil - The next country to fall to the right
« Reply #216 on: September 22, 2022, 04:56:06 pm »
Doesn't help that the majority will be 'right wing', I suppose.

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« Reply #217 on: September 26, 2022, 08:44:59 am »
John Oliver covered the Brazil elections last night in his main segment. Looks like the Brazilian Trump will go Full Jan 6th if he loses, and he's basically spent the past four years arming his supporters. :(

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Re: Brazil - The next country to fall to the right
« Reply #218 on: September 26, 2022, 09:36:37 am »
John Oliver covered the Brazil elections last night in his main segment. Looks like the Brazilian Trump will go Full Jan 6th if he loses, and he's basically spent the past four years arming his supporters. :(

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« Reply #219 on: September 29, 2022, 03:41:22 am »
Im getting married in Fortaleza in December. Loads of family from Liverpool and friends from Canada flying out for it. Expect things could get a little spicy between now and then

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« Reply #220 on: September 30, 2022, 11:13:05 pm »
More politicisation of the canarinho jersey.

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Brazilian soccer star Neymar Jr. faces criticism for Bolsonaro support

Just days ahead of Brazil’s national elections on Sunday, soccer star Neymar Jr. has appeared in a campaign video endorsing Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro.

The Paris Saint-Germain forward and Brazil captain appeared on a TikTok video singing Bolsonaro’s campaign jingle in which he lip synchs, “Vote, vote, and press ‘confirm’ for 22, that’s Bolsonaro,” in reference to the Brazil president’s official ballot number.

The video was also posted to Neymar’s personal TikTok account on Thursday.

Neymar’s endorsement comes a day after Bolsonaro visited the footballer’s non-profit organization, Instituto Projeto Neymar Jr, in the state of Sao Paulo.

The video of Bolsonaro touring the institute, which looks to create opportunities through education and sports initiatives for low-income families and children in the city of Praia Grande, was posted on the Institute’s official Twitter account.

Although Neymar was not able to host the President in person, he sent him a video message from Paris, where he had just played in a friendly with the Brazilian national team, helping secure a 5-1 victory against Tunisia, which was Brazil’s final game ahead of the World Cup in Qatar later this year.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/30/football/neymar-jair-bolsonaro-brazil-elections-football-spt-intl/index.html
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Re: Brazil - The next country to fall to the right
« Reply #221 on: October 1, 2022, 12:36:23 pm »
More politicisation of the canarinho jersey.


Can’t imagine many people in the world I’d be less surprised to find out were an utter shitbag with abhorrent views than Neymar

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Re: Brazil - The next country to fall to the right
« Reply #222 on: October 2, 2022, 01:34:00 pm »
Surely tomorrow's election is one of the most important in human history is it not?

With the fate of the Amazon in their hands, this will end up impacting us all to a certain extent.
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« Reply #223 on: October 2, 2022, 01:36:20 pm »
Surely tomorrow's election is one of the most important in human history is it not?

With the fate of the Amazon in their hands, this will end up impacting us all to a certain extent.

It´s big on a lot of levels, but you´re right, the fate of the Amazon has to top the lot. Stakes couldn´t be higher really.

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« Reply #224 on: October 2, 2022, 04:40:32 pm »
More politicisation of the canarinho jersey.


Rebeca Tavares tweeted something similar this morning.

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« Reply #225 on: October 2, 2022, 05:16:13 pm »
Rebeca Tavares tweeted something similar this morning.

Vote for Jair Bolsonaro I presume, based off the tweets. Wouldn't surprise me if a large proportion of our Brazilian based players are Bolsonaro fans (being born again Christians).

Pretty shitty really, I would feel the same if any of our players were Tory or MAGA leaning too

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« Reply #226 on: October 2, 2022, 05:24:20 pm »
Yep I think there was talk that Allison´s wife was posting pro-Bolsanaro stuff on social media years back.

You would hope that living in the UK and being distanced from all of that they would have more sense, or would have come to their senses over these last few years. But you never know. Fundamentalist Christians are in a world of their own.

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« Reply #227 on: October 2, 2022, 06:53:55 pm »
Vote for Jair Bolsonaro I presume, based off the tweets. Wouldn't surprise me if a large proportion of our Brazilian based players are Bolsonaro fans (being born again Christians).

Pretty shitty really, I would feel the same if any of our players were Tory or MAGA leaning too

Yep last time Alisson voted for him.

Classic example of separation of the player and the man. Made me laugh the comments in the past about what great people they are. Amazing footballers and for a lot, thats it.

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« Reply #228 on: October 2, 2022, 08:20:54 pm »
Yep last time Alisson voted for him.

Classic example of separation of the player and the man. Made me laugh the comments in the past about what great people they are. Amazing footballers and for a lot, thats it.

I agree with you there.

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« Reply #229 on: October 2, 2022, 08:27:32 pm »
I agree with you there.

I think the foreign players get a bit of a free pass, or it seems like they do. We all back our players but the heroic following is not warranted in a lot of cases, we literally have fascist supporters playing for us.

On the face of it though, many of our British players appear to be on the correct side.

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« Reply #230 on: October 2, 2022, 09:07:41 pm »
Polls have now closed but guess there is no exit poll?

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« Reply #231 on: October 2, 2022, 10:39:16 pm »
Polls have now closed but guess there is no exit poll?

It’ll drip through slowly, but early votes are indicating lula has a lot more than would be expected from early counts

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« Reply #232 on: October 2, 2022, 11:04:51 pm »
It’ll drip through slowly, but early votes are indicating lula has a lot more than would be expected from early counts

28% reported.

Ballsonaro - 47.7%
Lula - 43.5%
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« Reply #233 on: October 3, 2022, 12:13:42 am »
Voting with a bulletproof vest on.

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« Reply #234 on: October 3, 2022, 01:16:06 am »
Man this is deflating. Lula got a lot of work to do in the next four weeks. Extreme right candidates did well in the senate elections too

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Re: Brazil - The next country to fall to the right
« Reply #235 on: October 3, 2022, 05:54:14 am »
It's going to a second round. 99% of the vote is in - Lula with 48.4% of the vote, Bolsonaro 43.2%.

I think Bolsonaro is toast in the second round.

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Re: Brazil - The next country to fall to the right
« Reply #236 on: October 3, 2022, 10:24:51 am »
Looks like the polls were way off target unfortunately. Fascist pig scooped up a lot of undecided and third party votes.

Still, 6m is a very decent lead and you'd think it would take something extraordinary to overturn that now.

Kudos to the Brazilian electoral system - such a huge country (in terms of geography and population) and the results in within a few hours. Very impressive.

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Re: Brazil - The next country to fall to the right
« Reply #237 on: October 3, 2022, 02:05:35 pm »
I think Lula will be fine in Round 2, he should scoop enough votes up from Tebet and Gomes. The problem he'll have is that a lot of Bolsonaro ministers and allies did well in Senate and Congress races, which will render any big Lula policies void as they'll never pass. Still hopefully Lula's common sense can at least take some of the divisiveness out of Brazil's politics.

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Re: Brazil - The next country to fall to the right
« Reply #238 on: October 3, 2022, 09:17:49 pm »
Yep I think there was talk that Allison´s wife was posting pro-Bolsanaro stuff on social media years back.

You would hope that living in the UK and being distanced from all of that they would have more sense, or would have come to their senses over these last few years. But you never know. Fundamentalist Christians are in a world of their own.

That's what it comes down to really.

Doesn't Alisson's wife work for the World Hearth Organisation? Baffling to support him when you consider his nuts policies towards Covid.
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Re: Brazil - The next country to fall to the right
« Reply #239 on: October 3, 2022, 09:34:01 pm »
That's what it comes down to really.

Doesn't Alisson's wife work for the World Hearth Organisation? Baffling to support him when you consider his nuts policies towards Covid.

There is a girl I work with from Brazil, in her late 20's, very liberal, has been here in the UK for several years, was all for lockdown, the vaccine etc. Great for a night out and stuff.

I mentioned to her about that BBC documentary about the right of the Bolsonaro's, she then goes on a 10-minute rant about how the Beeb are a load of c*nts and how they distort Bolsonaro and what he is about, how shit it was in Brazil before him.

Mad. I mean, that stops me being friends with people like that. Short of my mum and dad, I don't think I can be friends or be close to anyone who shares those views. Albeit I think we can all learn to get on with them professionally. Also in the case of our football team, love what they do on the pitch but we should not worship these lot off the field.
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