Author Topic: Fallout - New Vegas (Read 74535 times)

lfcshaunod · « **Reply #1080 on:** July 19, 2012, 05:38:49 am »

Cheers mate

Walshy nMe® · « **Reply #1081 on:** July 19, 2012, 08:26:01 am »

My advice is also wait until you are near the end of the game as some of the DLC alludes to characters you might not have run into during your game if you go in too early.

Drinks Sangria · « **Reply #1082 on:** July 19, 2012, 10:34:25 am »

Quote from: rick287 on July 18, 2012, 06:38:48 pm

When you go to an area on the main map to travel to the DLC areas it will tell you what level you 'should' be to complete the DLC. I've only done Dead Money so far, I think it told me I had to be 20+ (I was about 28 when entering).

Quote from: Walshy® on July 19, 2012, 08:26:01 am

My advice is also wait until you are near the end of the game as some of the DLC alludes to characters you might not have run into during your game if you go in too early.

Both correct, good advice. No, don't complete the game first otherwise it'll end your save if I'm not mistaken. Fallout 3 had the Broken Steel DLC to extend the game, I don't think Fallout NV has anything like that. One tip, Lonesome Road can be fearsome. A lot of powerful enemies there. I've not done the Sierra Madre one, but all the others have been reasonably easy. Old World Blues has a lot of fighting but isn't difficult, the same can be said for honest hearts.
I've almost got all the achievements off this now, just need the Sierra Madre ones and the Gun Runner's Arsenal Challenges. Need to eat 10,000 points of food too, which is taking ages but I'm at 8,000, shouldn't take too long. Still got the entire main story to do as well, so the oppurtunities there. The GRA one's seem unecessarily difficult or bothersome, as well as expensive. I think I'll create a parallel save with my character so that I can do the challenges without it impacting upon my preferred story choices.

Drinks Sangria · « **Reply #1083 on:** July 21, 2012, 10:57:20 am »

Note to anyone yet to tackle the DLC- Do Dead Money first. It's comfortably the worst and most frustrating of the DLC add-ons and the story is better for you tackling it first and getting it out the way. Won't post spoilers but it's probably best to do them in this order - Dead Money, Old World Blues/ Honest Hearts, finally Lonesome Road.

Drinks Sangria · « **Reply #1084 on:** July 23, 2012, 11:00:08 am »

The writing in this is so much better than Fallout 3. I hope Bethesda take a lot of what Obsidian have done on board, especially when considering Fallout 4. I don't think either game is better than the other, I love them both. However, the content in New Vegas is much more well implemented and the story is a lot cleverer. I'd love Fallout 4 to have the Legion in it in some capacity. Florida would be a decent setting.

rick287 · « **Reply #1085 on:** July 23, 2012, 01:46:38 pm »

I'd love them to show somewhere other than a US location (imagine mutated Australian wildlife!), but that's highly unlikely I guess.

Drinks Sangria · « **Reply #1086 on:** July 23, 2012, 01:49:45 pm »

Quote from: rick287 on July 23, 2012, 01:46:38 pm

I'd love them to show somewhere other than a US location (imagine mutated Australian wildlife!), but that's highly unlikely I guess.

There is certain locations where it would work (Aussie outback as you say, Tokyo etc.) but Fallout is all about Americana, the ruined American dream. It's focus on 1950s American pop culture is ingrained into the series. I think it would be a big surprise if it ever left the states, at least in a numbered game. A spin-off might, but still don't see it happening. Which is unfortunate, because there's a lot that could be done with a change of location.

RideTheWalrus · « **Reply #1087 on:** July 23, 2012, 01:54:27 pm »

Got it in the Steam sale, didn't listen to the beginning so once I got the rifle I didn't know where to go, got frustrated and quit.

El_Capitán · « **Reply #1088 on:** July 23, 2012, 01:56:30 pm »

Quote from: rick287 on July 23, 2012, 01:46:38 pm

I'd love them to show somewhere other than a US location (imagine mutated Australian wildlife!), but that's highly unlikely I guess.

I think they only real non-US post-war options they have are China or Soviet Union. If they stay in America, they have quite a lot of options. The Commonwealth that was mentioned in FO3 is a possible one, imo.

Drinks Sangria · « **Reply #1089 on:** July 23, 2012, 03:07:29 pm »

Quote from: RideTheWalrus on July 23, 2012, 01:54:27 pm

Got it in the Steam sale, didn't listen to the beginning so once I got the rifle I didn't know where to go, got frustrated and quit.

Are you fishing? I think you've entirely missed the point if you're not. Open world RPG. Fuck it, just head to somewhere called Quarry Junction, problems solved.

Quote from: El_Capitán on July 23, 2012, 01:56:30 pm

I think they only real non-US post-war options they have are China or Soviet Union. If they stay in America, they have quite a lot of options. The Commonwealth that was mentioned in FO3 is a possible one, imo.

Decent idea, the Commonwealth. It's in Boston, so there's a city to explore. It's almost entirely been wrecked but MIT (The 'institute' Zimmer mentions in FO3) was saved by the scientific minds, closed and preserved perfectly. So it'd be a really cool contrast to the blasted massachusetts ruins. The institute is also still producing new techniology, as evidenced by

Spoiler

Harkness (Rivet City Guard) in FO3, who is a replicant or synthetic human.

[close]

It's a very good idea. There's so many story strands and missions that could be created from an old university full of technological wonders and various genius minds that have different ideas about what's best for the world. Could even institute FNV's faction system.

rob1408 · « **Reply #1090 on:** July 24, 2012, 08:25:15 pm »

Just under 70 hours into this again, still got a fair old bit of the main story to do and I'm on level 31. It really is a superb game, in a lot of ways I prefer it to Fallout 3.

Ycuzz · « **Reply #1091 on:** July 30, 2012, 09:49:06 pm »

Reinstalled it, been months since last time.

Almost forgot how good game this is.

thelinnen · « **Reply #1092 on:** July 30, 2012, 10:57:15 pm »

Quote from: GiorgosCarraGoonies on July 16, 2012, 01:37:10 am

I only found out the other day that the Fallout games have a similar engine to the Elder Scrolls games. Definitely going to buy this and/or Fallout 3. Anyone recommend which?

I prefer Fallout: New Vegas. Much more accessible in my opinion and the map is more interesting.

Ron · « **Reply #1093 on:** August 20, 2012, 10:29:05 am »

Have a look at this, people :
http://jul.rustedlogic.net/thread.php?id=15410

You can download the work the lad did here:
http://newvegas.nexusmods.com/users/3010984#

Not Bob · « **Reply #1094 on:** August 20, 2012, 03:09:23 pm »

Quote from: Ron on August 20, 2012, 10:29:05 am

Have a look at this, people :
http://jul.rustedlogic.net/thread.php?id=15410

You can download the work the lad did here:
http://newvegas.nexusmods.com/users/3010984#

That is an incredibly long read.

Ron · « **Reply #1095 on:** August 21, 2012, 08:16:11 am »

Quote from: Nicky English on August 20, 2012, 03:09:23 pm

That is an incredibly long read.

It's about all the stuff they left out of the game when it was released.
There are lots of missions with voiced dialogue that were not used.
That guy made them accessible again.

BigMarcs · « **Reply #1096 on:** November 23, 2012, 11:13:56 am »

Got this the other day and been putting the hours in. I've got Boone and the dog as my companions, just sorted out vault 34, geez that was a nightmare.

I think I have this bug though, whenever I go to camp McCarron the NRC guys always shoot me even though they idolize me, every faction does so far except the Legion. It's nothing to do with the armor either I made sure. Surely its a bug but it's so annoying. I can't even turn in my mission.

Max_powers · « **Reply #1097 on:** November 23, 2012, 11:59:48 am »

Quote from: BigMarcs on November 23, 2012, 11:13:56 am

Got this the other day and been putting the hours in. I've got Boone and the dog as my companions, just sorted out vault 34, geez that was a nightmare.

I think I have this bug though, whenever I go to camp McCarron the NRC guys always shoot me even though they idolize me, every faction does so far except the Legion. It's nothing to do with the armor either I made sure. Surely its a bug but it's so annoying. I can't even turn in my mission.

Bugs in this game really pissed me off. The game itself is a master piece but bugs make its somewhat annoying to play.

Ron · « **Reply #1098 on:** November 23, 2012, 12:15:22 pm »

Quote from: Max_powers on November 23, 2012, 11:59:48 am

Bugs in this game really pissed me off. The game itself is a master piece but bugs make its somewhat annoying to play.

It's a Bethesda problem.
I know a lot of people who started playing Oblivion.
I don't know anyone who could actually finish all the quest without being bugged out.

stoa · « **Reply #1099 on:** November 23, 2012, 12:21:44 pm »

Quote from: BigMarcs on November 23, 2012, 11:13:56 am

Got this the other day and been putting the hours in. I've got Boone and the dog as my companions, just sorted out vault 34, geez that was a nightmare.

I came to a point while playing it on my Xbox where having companions felt like cheating. I had Boone and that Robot and I was lucky to get at least some kills myself, because they basically did all the work...

I've started playing this again later, but just couldn't get into it anymore. I just thought Fallout3 was much better in terms of atmosphere (at least from a very subjective point of view). I just liked it better. The only problem is, that it crashes whenever I try playing it...

Drinks Sangria · « **Reply #1100 on:** November 23, 2012, 07:11:59 pm »

I agree that Fallout 3 is the better game. Stoa, you're right about the 'atmosphere,' it's ill-defined as to what it is, but it's just better somehow. That's not to say I didn't love NV, it's one of my favourite games of the generation. Fallout 3 was just sensational though. One fairly major point that NV is far superior in is that of the writing and dialogue, it's way above Fallout 3.

Max_powers · « **Reply #1101 on:** November 23, 2012, 10:32:56 pm »

Quote from: Drinks Sangria on November 23, 2012, 07:11:59 pm

I agree that Fallout 3 is the better game. Stoa, you're right about the 'atmosphere,' it's ill-defined as to what it is, but it's just better somehow. That's not to say I didn't love NV, it's one of my favourite games of the generation. Fallout 3 was just sensational though. One fairly major point that NV is far superior in is that of the writing and dialogue, it's way above Fallout 3.

Despite the problems I still prefer NV to fallout 3. NV has better story lines and dialogue and the game doesn't take itself too seriously.

Red James · « **Reply #1102 on:** November 23, 2012, 10:57:10 pm »

Quote from: Max_powers on November 23, 2012, 10:32:56 pm

Despite the problems I still prefer NV to fallout 3. NV has better story lines and dialogue and the game doesn't take itself too seriously.

I much prefer NV as I feel it's better in every aspect, even atmosphere. It also feels like an actual Fallout game.

Drinks Sangria · « **Reply #1103 on:** November 24, 2012, 12:47:30 pm »

Quote from: Red James on November 23, 2012, 10:57:10 pm

I much prefer NV as I feel it's better in every aspect, even atmosphere. It also feels like an actual Fallout game.

Having entered the series at 3, 3 is my favourite and the 'freshest' experience for me. When Steam was having a sale, I bought Fallout 1 and 2 and see what you mean by NV being more 'Fallout.' It's a bit wackier than the dourness in 3. I just love both of them really. Both Fallout 3 and NV as well as Oblivion and Skyrim would make my top 10 games of this generation.

stoa · « **Reply #1104 on:** November 24, 2012, 04:27:53 pm »

The thing about NV is that I never really got what I had to do. With F3 your task was defined from the start "Find your father". With NV it's "Some guy shot you in the head. Find him". I just didn't really care about that...

Aido LFC · « **Reply #1105 on:** November 24, 2012, 05:34:38 pm »

Quote from: stoa on November 24, 2012, 04:27:53 pm

The thing about NV is that I never really got what I had to do. With F3 your task was defined from the start "Find your father". With NV it's "Some guy shot you in the head. Find him". I just didn't really care about that...

Surely encouraged you to explore more which I found much more enjoyable in Fallout 3 because of the atmosphere of the world. Makes it feel like there is more of a struggle to survive in 3 where as in New Vegas it doesn't give you that type of feeling or maybe just not as strong.

Drinks Sangria · « **Reply #1106 on:** November 24, 2012, 07:42:21 pm »

Considering the whole apocalypse thing, I actually liked that it was harder to survive in three. The weapons were so good in NV, some of the uprgrades you could get were just class. The Legion is a cool addition as well, Bethesda should carry them over in some way into future Fallouts.

Frank. · « **Reply #1107 on:** November 24, 2012, 10:43:15 pm »

Is there any plans for a new Fallout?

UntouchableLuis · « **Reply #1108 on:** November 25, 2012, 11:46:18 am »

Reading through this thread has made me remember how amazing this and Fallout 3 was! Think the next instalment is next year isn't it, set in Boston?

Ron · « **Reply #1109 on:** November 25, 2012, 11:56:59 am »

Quote from: UntouchableLuis on November 25, 2012, 11:46:18 am

Reading through this thread has made me remember how amazing this and Fallout 3 was! Think the next instalment is next year isn't it, set in Boston?

I've heard rumors about it being in Boston. But I have not heard about it being made yet. I do so hope they will use a good engine this time !

mkferdy · « **Reply #1110 on:** November 25, 2012, 11:58:49 am »

The fallout franchise / universe could make an outstanding film in my opinon.

Ron · « **Reply #1111 on:** November 25, 2012, 12:56:27 pm »

Quote from: mkferdy on November 25, 2012, 11:58:49 am

The fallout franchise / universe could make an outstanding film in my opinon.

There must be some already. Maybe even from the 60's when fear of nuclear war was bigger then today.
I haven't seen any though, I don't like movies that much.

DanFromMars · « **Reply #1112 on:** November 25, 2012, 01:46:33 pm »

Quote from: Frank. on November 24, 2012, 10:43:15 pm

Is there any plans for a new Fallout?

Fallout 4 will be Todd Howard/Bethesda's next game. They're using the Skyrim engine as well. Expect a late 2014 release.

Drinks Sangria · « **Reply #1113 on:** November 25, 2012, 04:09:55 pm »

Quote from: DanFromMars on November 25, 2012, 01:46:33 pm

Fallout 4 will be Todd Howard/Bethesda's next game. They're using the Skyrim engine as well. Expect a late 2014 release.

Indeed. As some have mentioned, Boston is heavily rumoured due to leaked artwork. Rumour also has it that the Commonwealth will be heavily involved, as they'd set up shop in a perfectly preserved MIT (Massachusetts Institute of Technology). I can't remember whether this is canon or just rumour, but the scientists working in MIT managed to save it from the nukes. That'd be a good setting in my opinion. There'd be loads of toys and a preserved area to mess about in with loads of quests stemming from that, and outside it'd be your usual Fallout wastes. Dr Zimmer from 3 had a bit of dialogue about how the wastes around the commonwealth were horrific, beyond the dangers of the capital wasteland. Interesting. I'd quite like a Scientists of MIT v The Legion storyline. Pipedream though.

Rusty Oysterburger · « **Reply #1114 on:** November 25, 2012, 05:05:12 pm »

I was hoping the next one would be in California like the originals but the Boston/MIT setting sounds even better.

What has happened to New York in the Fallout universe?

Drinks Sangria · « **Reply #1115 on:** November 25, 2012, 05:20:30 pm »

Quote from: Rusty Oysterburger on November 25, 2012, 05:05:12 pm

I was hoping the next one would be in California like the originals but the Boston/MIT setting sounds even better.

What has happened to New York in the Fallout universe?

I saw some concept art a while back, in which I think New York was one of the worst hit cities and may be uninhabitable/ totally destroyed. It'd be a boring setting anyway. Fallout isn't the type of game in which New York's amazing verticality can be properly used. I prefer the choices they've made so far. California, as you say would be good. A deep south game could be interesting, especially if there was some kind of south-secession re-unification, although with so many factions already... The Point Lookout DLC showed that it's an area with potential. Then you've got the whole snow-covered north that could be visited. The USA's differing landscape is so full of contrasting areas that there is plenty of good ideas available. I doubt Fallout will leave it's Americana roots and I'm perfectly fine with that.

Surprise me. · « **Reply #1116 on:** November 25, 2012, 08:03:35 pm »

Quote from: stoa on November 24, 2012, 04:27:53 pm

The thing about NV is that I never really got what I had to do. With F3 your task was defined from the start "Find your father". With NV it's "Some guy shot you in the head. Find him". I just didn't really care about that...

That's the biggest reason I didn't complete NV. It didn't seem like there was a clear main quest just lots of going around and helping people with their quests.

rob1408 · « **Reply #1117 on:** November 27, 2012, 11:34:52 am »

There's a pretty straight forward main quest if that's the way you want to play the game, it's probably possible to complete New Vegas in about six hours. But why would you want to do that ?

stoa · « **Reply #1118 on:** November 27, 2012, 12:39:19 pm »

Quote from: rob1408 on November 27, 2012, 11:34:52 am

There's a pretty straight forward main quest if that's the way you want to play the game, it's probably possible to complete New Vegas in about six hours. But why would you want to do that ?

The problem is that most of the places had nothing to do with the main quest if I remember correctly. Your task was to find the guy who shot you in the head and he's in New Vegas. So, everything you're doing until you get there is pointless in a way, even though you might pick up some bits of information along the way. In F3 you needed to visit certain places to know where to go next and while you did that the story was advancing. You got an idea of who your father was, what he was doing and what was going on in the world. All I remember about NV was that there was the main storyline (i.e. you getting shot in the head and trying to find that guy) and on your way to NV all the other stuff was presented to you (who the different factions are, why they don't like each other,...), but the main plot didn't evolve as much as in F3...

Not saying that NV was a bad game (because I spent hours playing it). Just that I think in F3 they managed to combine main plot and smaller storylines much better... NV was suffering from what I would call the "The Elder Scrolls"-problem. A huge map with a very thin main story. A story so thin, that you soon forget what it is all about. The little side-quests and exploring the map become more important in the end. I don't like that...

Walshy nMe® · « **Reply #1119 on:** December 7, 2012, 02:04:05 pm »

Revisiting San Fran would be good, with a new character.