Topic: Premier League suspended until safe to resume

[Sinyoro]

Do people realise that there are anti-retrovirals that have already successfully alleviated symptoms in China and the FDA have approved a couple of them?

The virus is going to be cornered pretty soon- if not already.

[Son of Spion]

Do people realise that there are anti-retrovirals that have already successfully alleviated symptoms in China and the FDA have approved a couple of them?

The virus is going to be cornered pretty soon- if not already.

That's positive. Do you have any links to sources of that information?

[rebel23]

This is untrue, he didn't say that. He said we can turn the tide, which hopefully means we'll have peaked and should be seeing new case numbers starting to decrease.

OK thanks for correcting me.

There will be plenty of things to work out if it goes beyond July this year. For example what will happen to the CL? Contracts will have to be sorted out on a temporary basis and what will happen to the transfer window? There are lots of issues but it seems UEFA and FIFA are working together for once so I think these issues will be accommodated.

[Insole Petrol]

It will be interesting to see how the kit situation unfolds

[RayPhilAlan]

You talking to me?

I am hopeful. But I'm not stupid (unlike Michael Owen) and I'm also a realist.

Realists is always what optimists call themselves. It's also what pessimists call themselves. Which one do you identify with?

As you can see from the text under my avatar, I'm an older guy, 53. My partner is older than me and she is chronically asthmatic. She is currently driving her older sister to Leeds every day for cancer treatment. My mum is 80 and hers is 92. Worrying is what you do at our age!

I'm in my early 50's too. Worrying is NOT what you necessarily do at our age. For sure, think about situations and take precautions. But I hope you're also able to look beyond that. Practice gratitude. Think about the lives of those you consider inspirational. Trust. Believe. Hope.

[lfc_col]

Yeah, maybe you're right. But if I see or hear one more Liverpool "legend" spout about it . ....

Well there being asked about it

[MiddleMan]

That's positive. Do you have any links to sources of that information?

I find that when people make claims from their high horse on the internet, you likely won't be getting sources to back up said claims.

It is likely exaggerated or completely misunderstands the situation we have at hand.

[Schmarn]

This is untrue, he didn't say that. He said we can turn the tide, which hopefully means we'll have peaked and should be seeing new case numbers starting to decrease.

Actually they hope that the number of new cases per day peaks in 2/3 weeks once these distancing measures feed through to the figures. That depends on people following the guidance. If selfish c*nts still go to the pub, meet for coffee, have parties, then it will take longer and the measures will have to be enforced. I’ve seen plenty still acting like it’s a bit of a fun. Attitudes will change when the number of deaths rockets in the next 2 weeks especially if it includes a few young people.

After that there is a still long way to go but the 12 weeks objective is the point where they hope to be able to start to return to normality. So in Hong Kong for instance they are now returning to work in shifts (so that any resurgence can be checked). Full normality is many more months away after that.

Football won’t restart until the new cases per day are falling significantly and there is at least some confidence that the players won’t catch it as that will necessitate another suspension. I’d say late May/early June.

[whiteboots]

The virus is going to be cornered pretty soon- if not already.

We are fortunate to have an infectious diseases expert on the Forum.

Two hospital consultants who I have spoken to over the past 24 hours told me the seriousness of the outbreak was being underreported, there was no immediate prospect of the situation improving, and that little was known about the disease, which  appeared to be mutating .

I shall refer them through to you for reassurance.

[rebel23]

Actually they hope that the number of new cases per day peaks in 2/3 weeks once these distancing measures feed through to the figures. That depends on people following the guidance. If selfish c*nts still go to the pub, meet for coffee, have parties, then it will take longer and the measures will have to be enforced. I’ve seen plenty still acting like it’s a bit of a fun. Attitudes will change when the number of deaths rockets in the next 2 weeks especially if it includes a few young people.

After that there is a still long way to go but the 12 weeks objective is the point where they hope to be able to start to return to normality. So in Hong Kong for instance they are now returning to work in shifts (so that any resurgence can be checked). Full normality is many more months away after that.

Football won’t restart until the new cases per day are falling significantly and there is at least some confidence that the players won’t catch it as that will necessitate another suspension. I’d say late May/early June.

I just mentioned in the General sport thread that the gov't are planning to ram through draconian laws that would make us a police state akin to China. I suspect they're doing this in case things sky rocket and they have to be more aggressive. I hope so anyway. I also hope any new draconian laws are sunseted and temporary not permanent because locking people up for having a cough is a joke.  These laws can be abused.

[Son of Spion]

I find that when people make claims from their high horse on the internet, you likely won't be getting sources to back up said claims.

It is likely exaggerated or completely misunderstands the situation we have at hand.

Probably. 

I think I was clutching at straws, wasn't I?

[rebel23]

He's talking about the anti-malaria drug.  Trump rushed through approval by their agency the Food and Drug Administration

https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1240667742170202112


it is supposedly showing promise .

[Son of Spion]

He's talking about the anti-malaria drug.  Trump rushed through approval by their agency the Food and Drug Administration

https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1240667742170202112


it is supposedly showing promise .

Thanks for clarifying.

[Samie]

Anything the orange buffoon passes through quickly should be checked, rechecked and checked again.

[CHOPPER]

It will be interesting to see how the kit situation unfolds

Neatly, one would hope.

[whiteboots]

Football won’t restart until the new cases per day are falling significantly and there is at least some confidence that the players won’t catch it as that will necessitate another suspension. I’d say late May/early June.

The 12 week Govt objective to contain the situation takes us to mid June.

A four week period to confirm things had calmed down is likely. Mid July.

Four week "pre season" to return the players to match fitness. Mid August.

Two games a week takes you to the end of September for this season.

Minimum two week hiatus between seasons means a new season start Mid October

Best scenario.

[cashmere pringle]

As you can see from the text under my avatar, I'm an older guy, 53. ....

Older than me grandad !! 

ha ha 53 is young

[free_at_last]

Only Liverpool 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/mar/19/forgotten-story-english-football-suspension-dilemma-1947-first-division-june-finish

Not knowing the outcome, that was an exciting read

[David in Edinburgh]

Do people realise that there are anti-retrovirals that have already successfully alleviated symptoms in China and the FDA have approved a couple of them?

The virus is going to be cornered pretty soon- if not already.

[12Kings]

On another note, everyone alright after the match last week? I went and looking back on it now, its mad the government aloud 3000 of madrid fans over here, where they just trying to spread it  faster in the north? 🤨
Heard one of the hotels they all stayed in has had to close with 8 staff catching the virus.

[rebel23]

The 12 week Govt objective to contain the situation takes us to mid June.

A four week period to confirm things had calmed down is likely. Mid July.

Four week "pre season" to return the players to match fitness. Mid August.

Two games a week takes you to the end of September for this season.

Minimum two week hiatus between seasons means a new season start Mid October

Best scenario.

Great post. Thanks for working it out. Some of us can't be bothered

[andy07]

Great post. Thanks for working it out. Some of us can't be bothered

Mid October in a normal season there would be about 8 games played.  So they must be looking at contingencies as to how next season will look given that the Euros have been put back to 2021 and it will have to finish early May.  They may have no option but to bin both domestic cups or at the very least the League Cup.   Even if the cups continue I think we have seen the last of replays and two legged semis.   

[deFacto please, you bastards]

Torygraph

-In worst case scenario, season would be curtailed with Liverpool declared champions rather season being null and void

[Statto Red]

Mid October in a normal season there would be about 8 games played.  So they must be looking at contingencies as to how next season will look given that the Euros have been put back to 2021 and it will have to finish early May.  They may have no option but to bin both domestic cups or at the very least the League Cup.   Even if the cups continue I think we have seen the last of replays and two legged semis.

Could cancel the EFL Cup for a season, that'd free up 6 midweeks for extra premier league matches

[kesey]

He's talking about the anti-malaria drug.  Trump rushed through approval by their agency the Food and Drug Administration

https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1240667742170202112


it is supposedly showing promise .

I've got a sneaky feeling that he belongs to the FDA.

[Ghost Town]

Probably. 

I think I was clutching at straws, wasn't I?

Perhaps the guy has not seen your request yet.

Here's one link to a story about drug that's possibly useful in the early stages:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/18/japanese-flu-drug-clearly-effective-in-treating-coronavirus-says-china

It may or may not lead to good things. There'll be more drugs and approaches coming. People are not sitting on their backsides doing nothing. Folk are working round the clock to find a way to beat this thing.

[Dan6times]

Ireland predicts to be at 10k confirmed cases by Sunday and 15k by the end of the month, With the exception of small shops and supermarkets everything else is. Pretty much shut and has been for a week. Schools and public facilities last Thursday, pubs and restaurants by Sunday, hotels and highstreet shops two days ago. The UK is still all systems go... Doesn't make sense, I wish everyone the best there but if they don't close the pubs and restaurants soon than it will get seriously dangerous there. I know the UK has a better health care system than us and can deal with the peak much better than ours could but I worry about it. I hope it doesn't get as bad as Italy

[newterp]

That part is true - how is the UK keeping everything open

[hide5seek]

We are fortunate to have an infectious diseases expert on the Forum.

Two hospital consultants who I have spoken to over the past 24 hours told me the seriousness of the outbreak was being underreported, there was no immediate prospect of the situation improving, and that little was known about the disease, which  appeared to be mutating .

I shall refer them through to you for reassurance.

I thought viruses always mutated?

[newterp]

The best slightly peeved response I’m getting is “I’ll believe it when I see it” and “I don’t really care my teams season is already over”

Oh you care. You really really care.

[Peabee]

I find that when people make claims from their high horse on the internet, you likely won't be getting sources to back up said claims.

It is likely exaggerated or completely misunderstands the situation we have at hand.

there’s at least two at phase 3, so there’s phase 4 to go before approval. None have been approved. One treatment is an approved flu treatment from Japan. That may fast track its approval?

https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/2500114-treatment

[Peabee]

I thought viruses always mutated?

I read that they don’t usually become more virulent, in fact less so, as a less aggressive strain would keep more people on their feet to spread it around. 

[whiteboots]

Mid October in a normal season there would be about 8 games played.  So they must be looking at contingencies as to how next season will look given that the Euros have been put back to 2021 and it will have to finish early May.  They may have no option but to bin both domestic cups or at the very least the League Cup.   Even if the cups continue I think we have seen the last of replays and two legged semis.

I anticipate both domestic cups being suspended and the EL and CL played on a knockout basis.

[Son of Spion]

Perhaps the guy has not seen your request yet.

Here's one link to a story about drug that's possibly useful in the early stages:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/18/japanese-flu-drug-clearly-effective-in-treating-coronavirus-says-china

It may or may not lead to good things. There'll be more drugs and approaches coming. People are not sitting on their backsides doing nothing. Folk are working round the clock to find a way to beat this thing.

Thanks for that. 

[daveonthespionkop1900]

Oddly they seemed to have played on during the Spanish flu epidemic of 1918/19

[thejbs]

I read that they don’t usually become more virulent, in fact less so, as a less aggressive strain would keep more people on their feet to spread it around.

Yup. Some aggressive mutations die out quickly because they struggle to pass to hosts in time. If c19 mutateD into something that killed 50% of infected, it would be locked down more quickly and die out. Right now, it’s spreading because people are being blasé about it.

Even if c19 mutates it doesn’t necessarily mean the vaccine won’t work - it’ll still be genetically similar. I think the word mutation scares people when usually it’s not a serious issue.

[thejbs]

Oddly they seemed to have played on during the Spanish flu epidemic of 1918/19

And it killed up to 100m people.

I don’t think our models should be based on the response to Spanish flu.

[Macphisto80]

Oddly they seemed to have played on during the Spanish flu epidemic of 1918/19

Yeah, but the clue to why that was is in the date at the end of your sentence.

[Fromola]

The 12 week Govt objective to contain the situation takes us to mid June.

A four week period to confirm things had calmed down is likely. Mid July.

Four week "pre season" to return the players to match fitness. Mid August.

Two games a week takes you to the end of September for this season.

Minimum two week hiatus between seasons means a new season start Mid October

Best scenario.

I think that's about right. Just got to hope the Premier League clubs are still committed to completing the season once it gets into July  or August because football won't be resuming before then, or at least well into June.

The government have already turned from herd immunity and are reactive to this crisis and not forcing measures.

[Avens]

I think that's about right. Just got to hope the Premier League clubs are still committed to completing the season once it gets into July  or August because football won't be resuming before then, or at least well into June.

The government have already turned from herd immunity and are reactive to this crisis and not forcing measures.

Fromola. For your sake, as well as the rest of ours, can I suggest taking a break from the internet?

The latest news on this can only be seen as positive for Liverpool fans. The premier league and its clubs are fully committed to completing the season, if it doesn't occur before June they have confirmed they will extend the season indefinitely. There are quotes that show just how clearly the clubs believe they have to finish this season before they can start the next one. They are determined to finish this season, based on all the evidence we have yet you continue to theorise over a (in football terms) doomsday scenario that doesn't exist.

Take the good news in this challenging time and enjoy the positivity it provides for a little bit. Please. For everyone's sake.