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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3960 on: November 15, 2020, 10:56:25 pm »
If he plays for Scotland then we shouldn’t really start him against Leicester.

The fact the game is Sunday night now might help. Quick turnaround to Atalanta though so we'll see changes between those two games.
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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3961 on: November 15, 2020, 11:01:44 pm »
The fact the game is Sunday night now might help. Quick turnaround to Atalanta though so we'll see changes between those two games.

But that’s not how injuries work? He could get injured playing against Atalanta but he has already accumulated a load of minutes and that problem could flare up against Leicester, particularly if he has only played Wednesday.

We spent good money on Tsimikas so we should use him.

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3962 on: November 16, 2020, 01:25:39 am »
If he plays for Scotland then we shouldn’t really start him against Leicester.
I agree. Trent and Robbo were already at breaking point before the Internationals. We shouldn't take any risks with Robbo's hamstrings for a short term gain. Let him rest. Time to use the squad players and rest the first team for the gruelling December fixture list.

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« Reply #3963 on: November 16, 2020, 07:05:57 am »
But that’s not how injuries work? He could get injured playing against Atalanta but he has already accumulated a load of minutes and that problem could flare up against Leicester, particularly if he has only played Wednesday.

We spent good money on Tsimikas so we should use him.

Same could be said of quite a few players. It's stupid enough that the games come thick and fast, that there probably aren't enough substitutions allowed and if you then add pointless international games during a pandemic, then it's just a recipe for disaster. JK will need to be very wise with his rotation this season.

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3964 on: November 16, 2020, 07:22:37 am »
If he needs to rest then rest the lad. We have Tsimikas for this very reason surely? Play him against Leicester and then deffo use him v Atlanta and then see how things are.

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« Reply #3965 on: November 16, 2020, 09:26:24 am »
Same could be said of quite a few players. It's stupid enough that the games come thick and fast, that there probably aren't enough substitutions allowed and if you then add pointless international games during a pandemic, then it's just a recipe for disaster. JK will need to be very wise with his rotation this season.

Yes it could but the situation is stark at the back. Mane will have a week off from playing, Jota isnt piling on significant minutes, Firmino has been out the team a bit recently and Thiago, Keita and Fabinho will be back as well and none of them are currently clocking up loads of minutes either. Salah as well now gets a nice 2 week breather.

However there are a handful of players we do need to worry about and that includes Wijnaldum, Robertson and due to his previous injuries, Henderson. We have enough in the squad to cover them three. By the end of this week Robertson and Wijnaldum will have clocked an insane amount of minutes.

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3966 on: November 18, 2020, 06:46:55 pm »
Starts for Scotland

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3967 on: November 18, 2020, 06:48:29 pm »
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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3968 on: November 18, 2020, 06:49:51 pm »


Utter, utter fuckwits
If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3969 on: November 18, 2020, 06:50:32 pm »
If he comes back injured I will be fuming.
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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3970 on: November 18, 2020, 06:51:34 pm »
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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3971 on: November 18, 2020, 06:52:45 pm »
Just have to hope that he starts because he's fully fit

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3972 on: November 18, 2020, 06:54:11 pm »
Well at least it means that there isn’t any issue with his hamstring  :-\
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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3973 on: November 18, 2020, 07:10:15 pm »
He shouldnt really play for us on Sunday if thats the case.

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3974 on: November 18, 2020, 07:13:02 pm »
Starts for Scotland

This is the worst news possible, other than that he comes back injured.  >:(

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3975 on: November 18, 2020, 07:14:54 pm »
He shouldnt really play for us on Sunday if thats the case.
Let’s see how tonight goes, we may have no choice and he joins the rest of the defence in the treatment room. Fifa, Uefa, National team managers and the International fixtures can all fuck off.
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« Reply #3976 on: November 18, 2020, 07:15:07 pm »
This is the worst news possible, other than that he comes back injured.  >:(

Give it a couple of hours.
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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3977 on: November 18, 2020, 07:17:04 pm »
Succeeded in the biggest match over the last 22 years in their history and they now still start him in a dead rubber against Israel? Utter cretins. Steve Clark is a fucking idiot.

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3978 on: November 18, 2020, 07:17:29 pm »
Just Fucking What.
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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3979 on: November 18, 2020, 07:18:10 pm »
Bloddy hell Clarke! This beggars belief. Couldnt Robertson have told him to piss off?

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3980 on: November 18, 2020, 07:18:27 pm »
He shouldnt really play for us on Sunday if thats the case.

I would agree, he should be dropped from the team on Sunday.
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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3981 on: November 18, 2020, 07:19:11 pm »
Succeeded in the biggest match over the last 22 years in their history and they now still start him in a dead rubber against Israel? Utter cretins. Steve Clark is a fucking idiot.
It's not a dead rubber though, is it? Might not be important to Liverpool fans (non-Scottish ones), but it's important for Scotland.

Of course, wish he wasn't playing. But glad he's not injured and out of tonight's match because of that.
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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3982 on: November 18, 2020, 07:21:59 pm »
I would agree, he should be dropped from the team on Sunday.

Its not about punishing him but protecting him. He has clocked up an incredible number of minutes and was carrying an issue. He probably needs a good break and Leicester and Atalanta are two games we can afford to.

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3983 on: November 18, 2020, 07:23:53 pm »
It's not a dead rubber though, is it? Might not be important to Liverpool fans (non-Scottish ones), but it's important for Scotland.

Of course, wish he wasn't playing. But glad he's not injured and out of tonight's match because of that.


Yes just read that if they win their group they essentially put themselves two matches away from the world cup.

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3984 on: November 18, 2020, 07:24:55 pm »
Its not about punishing him but protecting him. He has clocked up an incredible number of minutes and was carrying an issue. He probably needs a good break and Leicester and Atalanta are two games we can afford to.

Not saying anything about punishing him, but if he comes back fit and isn't picked it will be seen as him being dropped. Which I have no problem with as we have to manage these players.
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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3985 on: November 18, 2020, 07:25:44 pm »
I've already accepted that he will come back with an injury.

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3986 on: November 18, 2020, 07:26:03 pm »
Its not about punishing him but protecting him. He has clocked up an incredible number of minutes and was carrying an issue. He probably needs a good break and Leicester and Atalanta are two games we can afford to.

Can we? Leicester will be a huge test for a makeshift defence. Taking out another first choice defender would be madness. Atalanta is a different story though as we are ahead in the group. Tsimikas should definitely start that.
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« Reply #3987 on: November 18, 2020, 07:27:50 pm »
Can we? Leicester will be a huge test for a makeshift defence. Taking out another first choice defender would be madness. Atalanta is a different story though as we are ahead in the group. Tsimikas should definitely start that.

But what if he breaks down against Leicester? He may or may not, but surely we are risking him if we make him go again?

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3988 on: November 18, 2020, 07:28:33 pm »
Can we? Leicester will be a huge test for a makeshift defence. Taking out another first choice defender would be madness. Atalanta is a different story though as we are ahead in the group. Tsimikas should definitely start that.

Can we afford to play him when you consider how much he has already played? There comes a time when we have to use the squad we have a good guy who can come in for him. If he doesn't get injured tonight, he will do against Leicester. Personally I would be sensible and rest him.
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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3989 on: November 18, 2020, 07:31:11 pm »
I've already accepted that he will come back with an injury.
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« Reply #3990 on: November 18, 2020, 07:37:30 pm »
I’m sure the sports science team will have a say on whether he is at risk of breaking down from cumulative minutes and Klopp wouldn’t risk him if there was the slightest hint of it. But Klopp will be looking at the impact of taking Robbo out of the team in addition to Joe and TAA now missing. It’s a huge ask to rebuild a back four. It’s a difficult balance though.

Hopefully he gets through OK tonight first.
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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3991 on: November 18, 2020, 07:40:45 pm »
Starting him in this game is absolutely criminal.
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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3992 on: November 18, 2020, 07:42:22 pm »
Starting him in this game is absolutely criminal.

Why is it? By his own admission he only had cramp after the Serbia game, he probably could have played Sunday but they thought better of it.

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« Reply #3993 on: November 18, 2020, 07:45:21 pm »
Why is it? By his own admission he only had cramp after the Serbia game, he probably could have played Sunday but they thought better of it.
They don't need to and he missed the last game through injury. Minor injury or no starting him in those circumstances is stupid and a bit of a slap in the face for liverpool given the situation they are already having to deal with.
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« Reply #3994 on: November 18, 2020, 07:52:30 pm »
They don't need to and he missed the last game through injury. Minor injury or no starting him in those circumstances is stupid and a bit of a slap in the face for liverpool given the situation they are already having to deal with.

They do need to as this game determines whether they top the group or not. Just because Liverpool fans consider this a dead rubber doesn't mean Scotland don't. He missed the last game after suffering, from his own words, cramp in the Serbia game with Scotland using common sense not to play him Sunday, there's absolutely no need to leave him out if he's recovered from that. As much as you don't want to believe Scotland wouldn't be playing him if he wasn't fit to play.

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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3995 on: November 18, 2020, 07:56:41 pm »
And we are actually covered at left back aren't we? Tsimikas is ready to go, right? And that lad is absolutely no slouch. It could be a good thing for Robbo to face a bit of competition at Liverpool.
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« Reply #3996 on: November 18, 2020, 08:01:16 pm »
And we are actually covered at left back aren't we? Tsimikas is ready to go, right? And that lad is absolutely no slouch. It could be a good thing for Robbo to face a bit of competition at Liverpool.

Well he's starting for Greece tonight which is probably a disgrace because he's spent time out injured this season too

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« Reply #3997 on: November 18, 2020, 08:07:43 pm »
Well he's starting for Greece tonight which is probably a disgrace because he's spent time out injured this season too
Probably good for him to get some minutes, whilst the other left back is clocking up too many...
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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3998 on: November 18, 2020, 08:39:51 pm »
I'm made up for the lad. He deserves it. I love the Jocks. Have an affinity with them. Glasgow, kindred spirit. We have many things in common but hating the English tops my list. We all love our teams. We love football. We'll cope if he's injured. I bet he plays against Leicester.
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Re: Just Fucking Robertson...
« Reply #3999 on: November 18, 2020, 08:51:48 pm »
He Scottish and the team captain. You could see last week what it means to him. Some of the comments in here are ridicuous.

It is an important game, for his country, and by his own admission he only had cramp.

I wish we (Scotland) had won at the weekend so he didn't have to play today but of course he was going to get picked tonight and rightfully so.