Author Topic: African Cup of Nations (AFCON) (Read 138039 times)

Clayton Bigsby · « **Reply #40 on:** January 15, 2020, 12:58:31 pm »

Oh dear.

Fromola · « **Reply #41 on:** January 15, 2020, 01:05:14 pm »

Advantage City next season then. We'll have to spend big in the summer to offset this. Can we send Caf the bill?

Samio · « **Reply #42 on:** January 15, 2020, 01:15:21 pm »

Whilst this isn't ideal in any way, I do feel as at ease as I can about it - given the current set-up within our club. No point losing our heads.

We'll plan and prepare for this eventuality as best we can.

Original · « **Reply #43 on:** January 15, 2020, 01:15:37 pm »

Mikey Edward's just put his cape on and given his gigs a wipe, we'll be sound

Caston · « **Reply #44 on:** January 15, 2020, 01:26:24 pm »

Quote from: Fromola on January 15, 2020, 01:05:14 pm

Advantage City next season then. We'll have to spend big in the summer to offset this. Can we send Caf the bill?

Oh dear

kloppagetime · « **Reply #45 on:** January 15, 2020, 02:01:37 pm »

Can't believe we're gonna lose two of our best players for a tournament nobody gives two shits about

Barneylfc∗ · « **Reply #46 on:** January 15, 2020, 02:03:46 pm »

Quote from: kloppagetime on January 15, 2020, 02:01:37 pm

Can't believe we're gonna lose two of our best players for a tournament nobody gives two shits about

There's a whole continent that disagrees with you I would imagine.

Dim Glas · « **Reply #47 on:** January 15, 2020, 02:06:08 pm »

Quote from: Barneylfc on January 15, 2020, 02:03:46 pm

There's a whole continent that disagrees with you I would imagine.

plus the players very much give a shit, representing their countries in it is the highest echelon for many. As much as that is hard to understand for fans of the players club team!

But really, something needs to be done about the 2 year thing, it's ridiculous.

duvva 💅 · « **Reply #48 on:** January 15, 2020, 02:09:18 pm »

Quote from: Original on January 15, 2020, 01:15:37 pm

Mikey Edward's just put his cape on and given his gigs a wipe, we'll be sound

Would think Signings as a direct result of losing players to this is very unlikely, or at least it hasn’t been our MO previously.

I've been a good boy · « **Reply #49 on:** January 15, 2020, 02:23:25 pm »

If it was every four years I’d be fine with the January/February timing but every two years is a massive annoyance. Pretty sure AFCON just sit there thinking of ways in which they can disrupt leagues around Europe

Fromola · « **Reply #50 on:** January 15, 2020, 02:42:16 pm »

Possible Keita and Salah or Mane could be sold in the summer with this. We can't lose three first XI players at the same time for 2 months of the season. Plus the fact when they return they need a break anyway or to readjust.

At the least we'll have to go big on a forward who can play wide.

Snail · « **Reply #51 on:** January 15, 2020, 02:45:01 pm »

That is fucking ridiculous.

Vinay · « **Reply #52 on:** January 15, 2020, 02:50:14 pm »

No, just no!

classycarra · « **Reply #53 on:** January 15, 2020, 02:51:02 pm »

Quote from: Fromola on January 15, 2020, 12:24:08 pm

What a pain this is. Why is this needed every 2 years (18 months since the last one)?

National FAs need to exploit their countrymen's bodies for as much cash as they can

classycarra · « **Reply #54 on:** January 15, 2020, 02:52:42 pm »

Quote from: Fromola on January 15, 2020, 01:05:14 pm

Advantage City next season then. We'll have to spend big in the summer to offset this. Can we send Caf the bill?

yeah we'll be fucked if we're 14 points ahead of them this time next year but without Mane Salah and Keita.

LovelyCushionedHeader · « **Reply #55 on:** January 15, 2020, 03:03:15 pm »

Quote from: deFacto on January 15, 2020, 12:51:33 pm

Not sure it stopped any club in the past.

Whilst I don't think it stops clubs buying African players, I do think it's stops clubs buying too many African players.

deFacto please, you bastards · « **Reply #56 on:** January 15, 2020, 03:05:03 pm »

Quote from: Fromola on January 15, 2020, 02:42:16 pm

Possible Keita and Salah or Mane could be sold in the summer with this. We can't lose three first XI players at the same time for 2 months of the season. Plus the fact when they return they need a break anyway or to readjust.

At the least we'll have to go big on a forward who can play wide.

Not possible at all.

TravisBickle · « **Reply #57 on:** January 15, 2020, 03:07:55 pm »

Why the fuck do they need it 18 months after the last one?! Absolutely ridiculous.

deFacto please, you bastards · « **Reply #58 on:** January 15, 2020, 03:08:22 pm »

Some of yous really have selective memories. We signed Mane when at the time the AFCON was taking place in January, fully aware that he would be gone for that period. we followed that with signing Salah, when again at the time AFCON was still scheduled to take place in January [that change took place later].

Aside from that, I am perplexed why anyone would think that Klopp would sell a player because he won't be able to use him for a month. Considering he waited an entire year to work with Keita for instance, waited a year for Ox [and not signed his replacement],etc..

Ray K · « **Reply #59 on:** January 15, 2020, 03:09:18 pm »

Quote from: Caston on January 15, 2020, 12:22:42 pm

What's the reason?

@tariqpanja
FIFA for the last 6 months has effectively taken control of the Confederation of African Football. Today it's announced the 2021 Africa Cup of Nations has been moved to Jan. That means it won't clash with FIFA's new Club World Cup.

classycarra · « **Reply #60 on:** January 15, 2020, 03:15:46 pm »

Quote from: Ray K on January 15, 2020, 03:09:18 pm

@tariqpanja
FIFA for the last 6 months has effectively taken control of the Confederation of African Football. Today it's announced the 2021 Africa Cup of Nations has been moved to Jan. That means it won't clash with FIFA's new Club World Cup.

Fantastic, hopefully we can run a bunch of african players into the ground in both tournaments back to back while they make rich people in FIFA and national FAs money in exchange for their health.

duvva 💅 · « **Reply #61 on:** January 15, 2020, 03:16:37 pm »

Quote from: Ray K on January 15, 2020, 03:09:18 pm

@tariqpanja
FIFA for the last 6 months has effectively taken control of the Confederation of African Football. Today it's announced the 2021 Africa Cup of Nations has been moved to Jan. That means it won't clash with FIFA's new Club World Cup.

While I wouldn’t put it past FIFA to move it to suit them, I thought this was down to the rainy season in Cameroon, or is that just a convenient excuse?

redgriffin73 · « **Reply #62 on:** January 15, 2020, 03:22:29 pm »

Quote from: duvva on January 15, 2020, 03:16:37 pm

While I wouldn’t put it past FIFA to move it to suit them, I thought this was down to the rainy season in Cameroon, or is that just a convenient excuse?

Could have thought of that before they got Cameroon to host it, couldn't they?

please, I have my reasons for it but... · « **Reply #63 on:** January 15, 2020, 03:27:14 pm »

Quote from: duvva on January 15, 2020, 03:16:37 pm

While I wouldn’t put it past FIFA to move it to suit them, I thought this was down to the rainy season in Cameroon, or is that just a convenient excuse?

Not really, the 2019 edition was going to take place in the summer in Cameroon but none of the stadiums were ready with six months to go so they moved it to Egypt who had most of the stadiums built for it anyways.

please, I have my reasons for it but... · « **Reply #64 on:** January 15, 2020, 03:30:13 pm »

Quote from: Ray K on January 15, 2020, 03:09:18 pm

@tariqpanja
FIFA for the last 6 months has effectively taken control of the Confederation of African Football. Today it's announced the 2021 Africa Cup of Nations has been moved to Jan. That means it won't clash with FIFA's new Club World Cup.

Jonathan Wilson
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@tariqpanja
And if weather is the reason, presumably it means Côte d'Ivoire 2023 will also be moved to January, three weeks after the World Cup finishes in Qatar. (I also remain deeply sceptical this will be in Cameroon).

duvva 💅 · « **Reply #65 on:** January 15, 2020, 03:43:44 pm »

Quote from: redgriffin73 on January 15, 2020, 03:22:29 pm

Could have thought of that before they got Cameroon to host it, couldn't they?

What you mean like they did with Qatar? 🤔

classycarra · « **Reply #66 on:** January 15, 2020, 04:21:12 pm »

International football is so fucking shit. It really needs to die a death. It isn't good football, it isn't entertaining football, it isn't inspiring or free from ugly political influence by FAs. And so few games actually feature coherent 'teams'

rebel23 · « **Reply #67 on:** January 15, 2020, 04:25:51 pm »

Maybe play Ox or TAA on the right (Neco at RB). Fuck knows how we will replace Mane on the left... we'd have to sign someone decent.

Jshooters · « **Reply #68 on:** January 15, 2020, 04:34:47 pm »

Quote from: rebel23 on January 15, 2020, 04:25:51 pm

Maybe play Ox or TAA on the right (Neco at RB). Fuck knows how we will replace Mane on the left... we'd have to sign someone decent.

Minamino?

rebel23 · « **Reply #69 on:** January 15, 2020, 04:43:14 pm »

Quote from: Jshooters on January 15, 2020, 04:34:47 pm

Minamino?

Good idea... but can he play at the required standard? It's a difficult position to play and i haven't seen enough of him yet

please, I have my reasons for it but... · « **Reply #70 on:** January 15, 2020, 04:44:29 pm »

I can see us not shying from spending the money on someone like Sancho then considering Shaq is likely to be gone in the summer with Roma eyeing him up now.

rebel23 · « **Reply #71 on:** January 15, 2020, 04:46:59 pm »

We wont pay 100million for Sancho. can't see it happening.

The only good thing is we have enough time to scout a replacement and to prepare for this unfortunate situaton,

rebel23 · « **Reply #72 on:** January 15, 2020, 04:51:45 pm »

What about Bale on loan; Real are keen to get rid but no takers.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/01/09/real-madrid-still-want-sell-gareth-bale-search-willing-buyers/

Fromola · « **Reply #73 on:** January 15, 2020, 04:54:14 pm »

Quote from: rebel23 on January 15, 2020, 04:46:59 pm

We wont pay 100million for Sancho. can't see it happening.

The only good thing is we have enough time to scout a replacement and to prepare for this unfortunate situaton,

It's outrageous that we have to spend a fortune now in the summer to account for this (or unearth a bargain).

HeartAndSoul · « **Reply #74 on:** January 15, 2020, 04:59:11 pm »

Such a stupid decision. African players are now going to the best clubs on the planet and they're likely to miss 6 weeks cause of this tournament. Just a crazy decision. Don't see us going down the African market anytime soon while we currently have 3 on our books.

This tournament needs playing every 4 years as well. Ridiculous that it's played every 2 years.

MolbyLovesGravlax · « **Reply #75 on:** January 15, 2020, 04:59:52 pm »

Quote from: Ray K on January 15, 2020, 03:09:18 pm

@tariqpanja
FIFA for the last 6 months has effectively taken control of the Confederation of African Football. Today it's announced the 2021 Africa Cup of Nations has been moved to Jan. That means it won't clash with FIFA's new Club World Cup.

Incoming Blue Moon conspiracy that this proves FIFA/UEFA have already fixed us winning CL this year so are moving the AFCON away from CWC to ensure can ensure our star players are available for their new look tournament.

rafathegaffa83 · « **Reply #76 on:** January 15, 2020, 05:04:35 pm »

Quote from: HeartAndSoul on January 15, 2020, 04:59:11 pm

This tournament needs playing every 4 years as well. Ridiculous that it's played every 2 years.

Yep

please, I have my reasons for it but... · « **Reply #77 on:** January 15, 2020, 05:07:55 pm »

Quote from: MolbyLovesGravlax on January 15, 2020, 04:59:52 pm

Incoming Blue Moon conspiracy that this proves FIFA/UEFA have already fixed us winning CL this year so are moving the AFCON away from CWC to ensure can ensure our star players are available for their new look tournament.

We're playing in it anyways in virtue of us winning in Madrid.

an fear dearg · « **Reply #78 on:** January 15, 2020, 05:14:17 pm »

Holy shite....can we worry about this after this season? Far too much happens over a 12 month period. Christ on a bike!

Nobby Reserve · « **Reply #79 on:** January 15, 2020, 05:15:13 pm »

Quote from: please, I have my reasons for it but... on January 15, 2020, 03:30:13 pm

Jonathan Wilson
@jonawils
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20m
Replying to
@tariqpanja
And if weather is the reason, presumably it means Côte d'Ivoire 2023 will also be moved to January, three weeks after the World Cup finishes in Qatar. (I also remain deeply sceptical this will be in Cameroon).

The sensible thing would have been to postpone the next comp to 2022 (2 and half years after the 2019 one), so also eliminating the near-clash with the World Cup.

But sense and football authorities.... yeah....