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Re: Rangers away selling details
« Reply #200 on: September 29, 2022, 03:33:35 pm »
trying to help a friend. got 406 errored by pressing 'choose seats for me' three times quickly out of frustration.

all these techniques the TO has implemented recently to combat bots and scripts do the exact opposite  :butt
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Re: Rangers away selling details
« Reply #201 on: September 29, 2022, 03:38:29 pm »
trying to help a friend. got 406 errored by pressing 'choose seats for me' three times quickly out of frustration.

all these techniques the TO has implemented recently to combat bots and scripts do the exact opposite  :butt

yet the bots and scripts can bypass all that - As I've said TO help the touts and stuff the average fan

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Re: Rangers away selling details
« Reply #202 on: September 29, 2022, 03:40:32 pm »
there must be some sort of way to manually kick ticket hoarders out ?
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Re: Rangers away selling details
« Reply #203 on: September 29, 2022, 03:50:18 pm »
trying to help a friend. got 406 errored by pressing 'choose seats for me' three times quickly out of frustration.

all these techniques the TO has implemented recently to combat bots and scripts do the exact opposite  :butt
did you actually see tickets available then?
Sir, the cash monies?

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Re: Rangers away selling details
« Reply #204 on: September 29, 2022, 03:51:58 pm »
They need to do it so your basket empties after 30 mins, if not bought.....and no way back in.

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Re: Rangers away selling details
« Reply #205 on: September 29, 2022, 03:54:42 pm »
did you actually see tickets available then?

yes mate, in the block i clicked there was maybe around 25-30 in the back.
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Re: Rangers away selling details
« Reply #206 on: September 29, 2022, 03:55:28 pm »
Still on the site and not marked as sold out in ticket availability. Are these people trying to hoard them until the 1+ sale? Or has it truly sold out?

A friend managed to get in to get a single.

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Re: Rangers away selling details
« Reply #207 on: September 29, 2022, 03:56:10 pm »
there must be some sort of way to manually kick ticket horders out ?

they did it between the sale but there is probably a few tickets knocking around in baskets right now not being purchased.
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Re: Rangers away selling details
« Reply #208 on: September 29, 2022, 03:57:50 pm »
i'm glad some people have got sorted - just gutted i'm not one of them!
Sir, the cash monies?

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Re: Rangers away selling details
« Reply #209 on: September 29, 2022, 03:58:53 pm »
i'm glad some people have got sorted - just gutted i'm not one of them!

i would say keep refreshing, but i've not seen any popup yet
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Re: Rangers away selling details
« Reply #210 on: September 29, 2022, 03:58:56 pm »
Club need to cancel the 1+ sale and let people with 2 have a chance at any that are in baskets.

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Re: Rangers away selling details
« Reply #211 on: September 29, 2022, 03:59:50 pm »
Was able to get on the page just before 3 and showed 30ish seats?
Tried to add (pre-3pm) but wouldn't let me, tried again bang on 3 and all gone.

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Re: Rangers away selling details
« Reply #212 on: September 29, 2022, 04:01:06 pm »
Club need to cancel the 1+ sale and let people with 2 have a chance at any that are in baskets.
......yep, and maybe those on 3 who missed out

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Re: Rangers away selling details
« Reply #213 on: September 29, 2022, 04:01:41 pm »
i would say keep refreshing, but i've not seen any popup yet
yep - solid hour on the refresh
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Re: Rangers away selling details
« Reply #214 on: September 29, 2022, 04:23:57 pm »
We need to make some noise to club about this hoarding of tickets by the Tik Tok generation.

Be some long standing reds miss out soon and thatíll be the nail in the coffin for me
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Re: Rangers away selling details
« Reply #215 on: September 29, 2022, 04:54:34 pm »
......yep, and maybe those on 3 who missed out

Spot on, these people have managed to artificially manufacture a sale today that probably shouldn't have happened and the same is happening tomorrow.

The club are happy to let it happen thanks to their ridiculous ticket system that allows this, its sheer incompetence

Just another example of them not caring who gets the tickets
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Re: Rangers away selling details
« Reply #216 on: September 29, 2022, 05:30:41 pm »
Spot on, these people have managed to artificially manufacture a sale today that probably shouldn't have happened and the same is happening tomorrow.

The club are happy to let it happen thanks to their ridiculous ticket system that allows this, its sheer incompetence

Just another example of them not caring who gets the tickets
I agree - that's all correct. Best of it is, a simple adjustment on the sales page would solve much of it.

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Re: Rangers away selling details
« Reply #217 on: September 29, 2022, 05:51:27 pm »
I agree - that's all correct. Best of it is, a simple adjustment on the sales page would solve much of it.

Exactly. I mean how hard can it be to check who has tickets in their baskets for hours on end and boot them out.

Also The system should really have the ability to look as the F&F list and of the account that's logged in and not allow any tickets to be basketed if a) you have already bought and b) nobody in your list qualifies under the current criteria.

I mean it probably can not LFC probably haven't even asked if it can

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Re: Rangers away selling details
« Reply #218 on: September 29, 2022, 05:57:55 pm »
they know it goes on because they gave some crazy stats a long time ago about members hoarding tickets, it was mad !
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Re: Rangers away selling details
« Reply #219 on: September 29, 2022, 06:03:39 pm »
actually tried to explain the issue to LFCHelp but either i'm not making any sense or they don't fully understand how the access works.

only one or two similar messages seem to have been sent to them (publicly), i wonder if it's just a handful affected and they're just not bothered enough to raise it
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Re: Rangers away selling details
« Reply #220 on: September 29, 2022, 10:38:32 pm »
Thereís still plenty of tickets in peoples baskets. This should of sold out by now. Would of sold out on 3 with maybe a few returns for a 2 credit sale

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Re: Rangers away selling details
« Reply #221 on: September 29, 2022, 10:46:13 pm »
Maybe a mad theory this, but is there no way the club could be holding onto some of these? To try and bring on another Ďall membersí sale to drive the numbers down in terms of those with multiple credits?

It does seem very very odd all this, has this ever happened before when sales are coming and going without it selling out when it most likely should?

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Re: Rangers away selling details
« Reply #222 on: September 29, 2022, 11:07:39 pm »
Maybe a mad theory this, but is there no way the club could be holding onto some of these? To try and bring on another Ďall membersí sale to drive the numbers down in terms of those with multiple credits?

It does seem very very odd all this, has this ever happened before when sales are coming and going without it selling out when it most likely should?

the club wouldn't do that, if they wanted to drive the numbers down they'd just give more to sponsors/players/hospo. not giving people on each prior tier a fair chance is not right (and i'm only on 1 credit) and if it was uncovered there's foul play it'd cause a commotion.

i have heard of someone holding tickets last season too but i don't think we've had this specific scenario play out like this.

i just reckon the LFCHelp people don't understand the intricacies of the system and how it can be abused and there doesn't seem to be too many people raising it weirdly.
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Re: Rangers away selling details
« Reply #223 on: September 29, 2022, 11:13:35 pm »
the club wouldn't do that, if they wanted to drive the numbers down they'd just give more to sponsors/players/hospo. not giving people on each tier a fair chance is not right (and i'm only on 1 credit) and if it was uncovered there's foul play it'd cause a bit commotion.

i have heard of someone holding tickets last season too but i don't think we've had this specific scenario play out like this.

i just reckon the LFCHelp people don't understand the intricacies of the system and how it can be abused and there doesn't seem to be too many people raising it weirdly.

Yeah fair point mate, just thinking out loud really. Itís a loophole that needs closing if itís not foul play from the club. Because either way itís not right that itís stopping people on multiple credits from being able to buy tickets, however itís happening.

And I say that in the same situation as you, am on one credit.
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Re: Rangers away selling details
« Reply #224 on: September 30, 2022, 07:05:10 am »
How are people holding tickets? It times out after 19 mins
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Re: Rangers away selling details
« Reply #225 on: September 30, 2022, 07:26:26 am »
How are people holding tickets? It times out after 19 mins

You just refresh the basket then it restarts the timer

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Re: Rangers away selling details
« Reply #226 on: September 30, 2022, 07:28:04 am »
Can anyone also PM me the hallmap for this game please?

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Re: Rangers away selling details
« Reply #227 on: September 30, 2022, 07:35:28 am »
You just refresh the basket then it restarts the timer

Why does this work for some and not others. Defo doesnít work for me.

Another thing on the long list of how shite the website is.
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Re: Rangers away selling details
« Reply #228 on: September 30, 2022, 07:52:38 am »
Why does this work for some and not others. Defo doesnít work for me.

Another thing on the long list of how shite the website is.

it doesn't seem to always work to be fair, i did some messing around yesterday to try
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Re: Rangers away selling details
« Reply #229 on: September 30, 2022, 08:03:29 am »
Why does this work for some and not others. Defo doesnít work for me.

Another thing on the long list of how shite the website is.

No idea mate - But that's what people are doing - The fact that the system allows it is farcical - But nobody at the club actually cares - They read this forum and yet nothing gets done to solve this basic problem along with the myriad of other basic problems

The fact that people are asking for hallmaps for today is for a sale that should not even come close to happening is nothing short of a joke

Yesterday's sale should not have happened either, but the simplest of simple fixes have not been implemented by the club - You should get one extension when checking out coz of the form filling and that should be it

The sale has shown has sold out on the site since 5 minutes after the 3 credit sale thanks to the total incompetence on show from the club, and people on 3 have missed out because of this

They publish the sale that says max of 10 or max of 4 per transaction yet you can add 100 to the basket and leave them there

Sooner or later people who are in a supposed guarantee sale are going to miss out coz of this practice of hiving tickets to a basket to save for the next credit down sale

LFC help don't understand or are maybe not bothered I don't know. But it needs more people to raise it
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« Reply #230 on: September 30, 2022, 08:11:09 am »
No idea mate - But that's what people are doing - The fact that the system allows it is farcical - But nobody at the club actually cares - They read this forum and yet nothing gets done to solve this basic problem along with the myriad of other basic problems

The fact that people are asking for hallmaps for today is for a sale that should not even come close to happening is nothing short of a joke

Yesterday's sale should not have happened either, but the simplest of simple fixes have not been implemented by the club - You should get one extension when checking out coz of the form filling and that should be it

The sale has shown has sold out on the site since 5 minutes after the 3 credit sale thanks to the total incompetence on show from the club, and people on 3 have missed out because of this

They publish the sale that says max of 10 or max of 4 per transaction yet you can add 100 to the basket and leave them there

Sooner or later people who are in a supposed guarantee sale are going to miss out coz of this practice of hiving tickets to a basket to save for the next credit down sale

LFC help don't understand or are maybe not bothered I don't know. But it needs more people to raise it

Spot on. I've raised similar issues plenty of times with the club. I know others have as well so they are fully aware of the issues.

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Re: Rangers away selling details
« Reply #231 on: September 30, 2022, 08:37:33 am »
The club donít care, itís genuinely mind blowing to me how obvious it is that they simply donít give a fuck.
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Re: Rangers away selling details
« Reply #232 on: September 30, 2022, 09:12:14 am »
LFCHelp are actively ignoring the few public questions on this but replying to everyonesí NFC pass questions lol
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Re: Rangers away selling details
« Reply #233 on: September 30, 2022, 09:12:25 am »
Think that more and more need to raise this, to see if anything is done

Going on LFC chat now - nowt will happen, but if more of us do it then something may be raised

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Re: Rangers away selling details
« Reply #234 on: September 30, 2022, 09:29:14 am »
some popped up now, quick
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Re: Rangers away selling details
« Reply #235 on: September 30, 2022, 09:40:07 am »
The club should be cancelling the 1+ credit sale now.

I am not affected by this as I was in guaranteed sale. But it is really pissing me off what is happening. Friends who have 3+ had to pay 4 times postage because they could only get singles. I know friends of friends who have not been able to buy on 2.

They should also be banning anyone doing this.

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Re: Rangers away selling details
« Reply #236 on: September 30, 2022, 09:46:51 am »
some popped up now, quick
about 7 i saw but you could not basket them ?
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Re: Rangers away selling details
« Reply #237 on: September 30, 2022, 09:48:09 am »
Agree Craig, itís madness that as it stands it looks like (in theory at least) the 1 credit sale goes ahead.

They should be Ďresettingí the site for want of a better word and letting the tickets be available for those with required credits to get them. And I say this as someone who would potentially benefit from the 1 credit sale happening.

Without them doing something with the site, is the same thing going to happen anyway? In theory surely someone could be logged in on the account of someone who qualifies, with no one additional who does qualify to allocate a ticket to! If someone has worked out how to sit on tickets this long, surely they could continue to do so until an all members sale happened (without some sort of reset happening)?

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Re: Rangers away selling details
« Reply #238 on: September 30, 2022, 09:49:41 am »
about 7 i saw but you could not basket them ?

ah nightmare. i didn't try to basket as sorted now. how frustrating.
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Re: Rangers away selling details
« Reply #239 on: September 30, 2022, 09:51:14 am »
The club should be cancelling the 1+ credit sale now.

I am not affected by this as I was in guaranteed sale. But it is really pissing me off what is happening. Friends who have 3+ had to pay 4 times postage because they could only get singles. I know friends of friends who have not been able to buy on 2.

They should also be banning anyone doing this.

I'm in same boat mate - it's annoying I know people who haven't been able to get tickets on 3 credits, coz they weren't quick enough, I mean 987 tickets in 4 minutes. Yet the club merrily carry on letting people do it, and blindly doing 2 and 1 credit sales

I've raise it on live chat - (maybe more could try to create some momentum) - but needless to say got the default we'll pass it on