Topic: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition

[GreatEx]

Fantastic.

I've also enjoyed listening to Nedum Onuoha. I've never heard him shilling for Man City but maybe he does it in other contexts. But what I really want to do is a write-in vote for Philippe Auclair, he is just so good. On this week's Guardian Football Weekly, previewing Man City-RB Leipzig, he said Leipzig stood no chance over two legs because "City somehow always find the resources..." (pause for effect)... "whether that be diving for a 93rd minute penalty as De Bruyne did against Fulham..." - hallelujah! Someone in the media finally said it! He also provided thoughtful analysis for why sacking Hassenhutl might have been the wrong move, rather than the usual lazy claptrap about results not being good, something had to give, change is good as a holiday, new manager bounce, etc.

[Jack_Bauer]

'Gary Neville’s days as football’s moral policeman are over':-

For all those who gush over Neville as the homme sérieux of the national game, an equal number regard him as colossal hyprocrite

www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2022/11/08/gary-nevilles-days-footballs-moral-policeman

^ https://archive.ph/qCX2W



A quick 90 second video of Gary Neville on HIGNFY - with Ian Hislop quickly and easily nullifying Neville's 'defence'...

https://v.redd.it/pi0j0x34g0y91

Can we change his title to the Hypocritical Policeman then

[redgriffin73]

Not having Nedum Onuha. He is another paid for City fanboy.

Yeah, his thoughts on the KDB penalty dive were embarrassing.

[slaphead]

What's Carragher on about here then ? Re Arsenal...
"The City game was postponed and I think that probably helped them in someways. It just shows that players, no matter who you are, can transform a team. You look at Jesus. The thing about him not scoring shows how good he is."

Jesus not scoring shows how good he is?

[Terry de Niro]

What's Carragher on about here then ? Re Arsenal...
"The City game was postponed and I think that probably helped them in someways. It just shows that players, no matter who you are, can transform a team. You look at Jesus. The thing about him not scoring shows how good he is."

Jesus not scoring shows how good he is?

Carragher is really TNB and I claim my fiver.

[slaphead]

Carragher is really TNB and I claim my fiver.

I'm not up to speed on my abbreviations but I'll have a bang at it. TNB.... Twat Nob Bluenose ?   The National Ballbag ?
Bit harsh them actually. How about ....Tremendous News Broadcaster ?

[afc tukrish]

Carragher is really TNB and I claim my fiver.

It's not a fiver, they give you a library card...

[Terry de Niro]

I'm not up to speed on my abbreviations but I'll have a bang at it. TNB.... Twat Nob Bluenose ?   The National Ballbag ?
Bit harsh them actually. How about ....Tremendous News Broadcaster ?

I'm sure The North Bank will be pleased with this? 

[slaphead]

I have a new found admiration for Simon Jordan. Absolutely destroyed Piers Moron today on radio and called out his hypocricy for when he slated Oprah Winfrey for how she did the Megan Markle interview with admiring eyes and didn't challenge anything, only for him to do the same with Ronaldo.

[liverbloke]

I have a new found admiration for Simon Jordan. Absolutely destroyed Piers Moron today on radio and called out his hypocricy for when he slated Oprah Winfrey for how she did the Megan Markle interview with admiring eyes and didn't challenge anything, only for him to do the same with Ronaldo.

the only person to think Piers Moron is not a twat is Piers Moron

[MJD-L4]

I have a new found admiration for Simon Jordan. Absolutely destroyed Piers Moron today on radio and called out his hypocricy for when he slated Oprah Winfrey for how she did the Megan Markle interview with admiring eyes and didn't challenge anything, only for him to do the same with Ronaldo.

Just seen that & fair play to Jordan. Morgan needed calling out on that - the deplorable fucking hypocrite.

[slaphead]

Just seen that & fair play to Jordan. Morgan needed calling out on that - the deplorable fucking hypocrite.

Jordan was just too sharp tongued for him. This bit made Morgan look a right knob.

Jordan: But he described it separately, he described directors and the president. Let’s deal in detail. Let’s look at the pushback on someone spending 350million euros for him…

Morgan: You’re talking total nonsense about the Saudi deal. I know exactly who made that deal and you’re wrong.

Jordan: So you’ve seen the contract, have you?

Morgan: I’ve spoken to the Saudi person who made the offer myself.

Jordan: So you haven’t seen the contract?

Morgan: Why would they lie?

Jordan: Oh, I don’t know, why would people misrepresent things, you do that all the time!

[MJD-L4]

Yeah that made me laugh!

Then Morgan goes on to try and distance his interview from the Meghan Markle stuff by saying Ronaldo is a victim and was just responding to months of slander and provocation.

Implying that the Harry/Meghan interview came out of nowhere and they were the instigators of the issues with the Royal Family.

The guy is almost as egotistical as Ronaldo and infinitely more detestable.

Phone tapping bastard.

[Flaccido Dongingo]

Jordan is a bit of a smug git, but he's very often on the nose with his opinions, and he backs them up and argues them very well, he's obviously an outlier in terms of "pundits", in that he very obviously does a fair bit of research into the subjects he'll be discussing, I always thought he was a c*nt, he may well be, but he's one of the very few talking heads in football that I actually enjoy listening to.

[Terry de Niro]

Jordan is a bit of a smug git, but he's very often on the nose with his opinions, and he backs them up and argues them very well, he's obviously an outlier in terms of "pundits", in that he very obviously does a fair bit of research into the subjects he'll be discussing, I always thought he was a c*nt, he may well be, but he's one of the very few talking heads in football that I actually enjoy listening to.

Spot on. He tells it as it is, which is rare as hen's teeth these days.
Would love to see him on Sly sports as a guest and watch ratboy and co squirm.

[Flaccido Dongingo]

Spot on. He tells it as it is, which is rare as hen's teeth these days.
Would love to see him on Sly sports as a guest and watch ratboy and co squirm.

He'd rip Ratboy limb from limb, he'd destroy him over his bias as a co-commentator/pundit, and for being a hypocritical champagne Socialist, it would be delicious.

[MJD-L4]

He'd rip Ratboy limb from limb, he'd destroy him over his bias as a co-commentator/pundit, and for being a hypocritical champagne Socialist, it would be delicious.

Which is sadly why they'll never invite him on. They'll just stick with Micah Richards - Coz he's got "Bantz & Tings©" -  Innit

[KillieRed]

Jermaine Jenas. Utterly devoid of charisma & intelligence.

He’s one of those pundits who will defend his original opinion even when confronted with clear evidence, in uhd super-slo-mo, to the contrary. He feels he’s right, so that’s that. Probably a working class Tory & proud of it.

[Hazell]

I've got a feeling Jenas will be hosting Eurovision next year.

[KillieRed]

I've got a feeling Jenas will be hosting Eurovision next year.

And raging at the forriners ganging up on the plucky UK.

[bradders1011]

I've got a feeling Jenas will be hosting Eurovision next year.

He'll be hosting Election Night, Wimbledon and the fucking news next year.

[Terry de Niro]

He'll be hosting Election Night, Wimbledon and the fucking news next year.

Dead-headed S Club 7 reject.

[El Lobo]

Its one of the oddest phenomenon's I've witnessed in British media, maybe even odder than James Corden. He's got no personality, no charisma, he's not even particularly controversial or outspoken like some like. Its like they've combined all the worst aspects of other commentators and stuck them into an average ex Newcastle and Spurs midfielder, and now he's everyfuckingwhere.

[Red Ol]

Its one of the oddest phenomenon's I've witnessed in British media, maybe even odder than James Corden. He's got no personality, no charisma, he's not even particularly controversial or outspoken like some like. Its like they've combined all the worst aspects of other commentators and stuck them into an average ex Newcastle and Spurs midfielder, and now he's everyfuckingwhere.

Said it before but his agent must surely either be the worlds best or has compromising material on certain production heads. Can’t think of any other reason why this dull, irritating no mark has been forced upon the nation (and he really has been forced upon us). One good thing for anyone who’s watching any wc match’s on bbc is that if you press the red button you can listen to BBC radio commentary instead. Still not great but not having to suffer Jenas’s mind numbingly boring vowels is a real plus.

[The G in Gerrard]

Roy Keane. Was he always this angry? Great to watch as a pundit. Him and Souness this week

[FlashGordon]

Roy Keane. Was he always this angry? Great to watch as a pundit. Him and Souness this week

He's actually mellowed in his old age.

[Buck Pete]

One good thing for anyone who’s watching any wc match’s on bbc is that if you press the red button you can listen to BBC radio commentary instead. Still not great but not having to suffer Jenas’s mind numbingly boring vowels is a real plus.

oh wow. I almost came on here last night to post "all I want for Christmas is a mute Jermaine Jenas button"

Now I know there IS actually such a thing, which means I don't have to watch a match in absolute silence (which is infinitely better that listening to him I admit).

I think he is the new Adrian Childs, in that most people are genuinely baffled how one man can get so much screen time.   

Childs was eventually relegated to he bowels of TV and Radio.  Lets hope the man-child goes the same way.

[Red Ol]

I think he is the new Adrian Childs, in that most people are genuinely baffled how one man can get so much screen time.   

Childs was eventually relegated to he bowels of TV and Radio.  Lets hope the man-child goes the same way.

For some reason Adrian Chiles has a regular column in the Guardian. I have no clue why. It is the most mundane meaningless waste of column inches that I can think of. Just random trivial boringly dull subject matter, like his bladder or something he saw in a toilet on the M1 … or West Brom. Just bizarre.

[voodoo ray]

For some reason Adrian Chiles has a regular column in the Guardian. I have no clue why. It is the most mundane meaningless waste of column inches that I can think of. Just random trivial boringly dull subject matter, like his bladder or something he saw in a toilet on the M1 … or West Brom. Just bizarre.

I think he's married to the editor

yep, really.

[bradders1011]

For some reason Adrian Chiles has a regular column in the Guardian. I have no clue why. It is the most mundane meaningless waste of column inches that I can think of. Just random trivial boringly dull subject matter, like his bladder or something he saw in a toilet on the M1 … or West Brom. Just bizarre.

The Mundane Thread has 130 pages.

[Redknight60]

Thought Andros Townsend was decent this morning as a co commentator. At the very least, seems like a guy who enjoys football which seems a rarity in the commentary box these days. The rest of them just sound bored waiting for the next England game so that they can belittle the opposition.

[Terry de Niro]

Roy Keane. Was he always this angry? Great to watch as a pundit. Him and Souness this week

Watched an interview with Martin O'Neil, Talking about Roy Keane and his angry beard.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/qKTRzVaTR28" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/qKTRzVaTR28</a>

[Buck Pete]

The Mundane Thread has 130 pages.

Of which id read every single page before I laid eyes on Adrian Childs column.

[The G in Gerrard]

Watched an interview with Martin O'Neil, Talking about Roy Keane and his angry beard.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/qKTRzVaTR28" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/qKTRzVaTR28</a>

O'Neill was a decent pundit as well from what I remember. Shame ITV haven't got him again.

[Nogg3000]

His demolition of Robbie Williams on air in 98 was a World Cup classic.

[ljycb]

For some reason Adrian Chiles has a regular column in the Guardian. I have no clue why. It is the most mundane meaningless waste of column inches that I can think of. Just random trivial boringly dull subject matter, like his bladder or something he saw in a toilet on the M1 … or West Brom. Just bizarre.

On the contrary, I think it's the best thing about the Guardian.

[sinnermichael]

Jonathan Pearce loves telling you if a game isn't very good doesn't he?

[TheMissionary]

Jonathan Pearce loves telling you if a game isn't very good doesn't he?

That reminds me, what's happened to Alan Green? Haven't heard of/from him for yonks.  He was the same, if a game was cack he'd say so.

[S]

Its one of the oddest phenomenon's I've witnessed in British media, maybe even odder than James Corden. He's got no personality, no charisma, he's not even particularly controversial or outspoken like some like. Its like they've combined all the worst aspects of other commentators and stuck them into an average ex Newcastle and Spurs midfielder, and now he's everyfuckingwhere.

I would actually rather watch Corden because he at least winds me up a bit. Jenas is painfully bland. He’s like an AI that’s been fed lines about football. He’s what I imagine football pundits will sound like in the metaverse.

[S]

Don’t know why but the standard of commentary and punditry is really getting to me this tournament. This time ITV are slightly better than BBC from what I’ve seen.

Anyone watch the BT Sport Goals Show? Wish someone had the balls to give such journalists a major platform. We might actually get some thoughtful analysis.