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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104960 on: August 13, 2022, 02:47:36 pm »
Is Doak playing right or left?  He's right-footed and all the clips I saw of him had him playing as a traditional winger on the right.  Are we playing him on the left, cutting inside?

Doak played on the right and looked very good. Early days but looks like he might play some u21 football this season.

Kone-Doherty was lively but is a bit undersized for the moment, even at this level. Definitely a good prospect though.

Koumas worked hard in the heat and Ranel Young showed some nice touches too.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104961 on: August 13, 2022, 04:07:57 pm »
Interestingly it seems Conor Bradley is playing in the front 3 for Bolton today. They are down to 10 men though.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104962 on: August 14, 2022, 05:09:05 pm »
Layton Stewart with an equaliser right at the end for the 21s today. Looks like he got sent off too afterwards. Brighton had only scored very late as well. They were playing the likes of Colwill and Alzate too.

Also, when did the league become the under 21s again as opposed to the u23s?
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104963 on: August 14, 2022, 06:34:40 pm »
Layton Stewart with an equaliser right at the end for the 21s today. Looks like he got sent off too afterwards. Brighton had only scored very late as well. They were playing the likes of Colwill and Alzate too.

Also, when did the league become the under 21s again as opposed to the u23s?
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104964 on: August 14, 2022, 07:53:08 pm »
Saw the u18 highlights, Doak is a jacked little chap, isn't he.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104965 on: August 14, 2022, 08:20:31 pm »
Saw the u18 highlights, Doak is a jacked little chap, isn't he.

He already got off the bench for Celtic's first team a couple of times not long after turning 16. Wouldn't be surprised to see him get some minutes in the 21s group later this season
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104966 on: August 16, 2022, 08:46:39 pm »
Bradley and Balagizi with goals in the league tonight. If Bradley keeps up this kind of production could probably get him a Championship loan in January

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104967 on: August 16, 2022, 09:17:09 pm »
Bradley and Balagizi with goals in the league tonight. If Bradley keeps up this kind of production could probably get him a Championship loan in January

Balagizi put Crawley 1-0 has now scored again to make it 2-2. Playing on the left of a front 3 if the BBC sport graphic is to be believed.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104968 on: August 16, 2022, 09:35:02 pm »
Bradley and Balagizi with goals in the league tonight. If Bradley keeps up this kind of production could probably get him a Championship loan in January

It's only right for him to stay there as agreed as long as he's playing and happy. I'd guess Bradley and Balagzi are a level above the league they're in though. Got a good feeling about Morton at Blackburn as well.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104969 on: August 16, 2022, 10:20:00 pm »
Have thought the same on Bradley, I think he could probably cut it at Championship level now, and if not now, very soon. If Bolton get promoted they'd probably be keen to take him back for another year.

Again I think Fromola could be right on Balagizi, he wouldn't look out of place in a League 1 team IMO but we'll see how he does at this level.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104970 on: August 16, 2022, 10:22:17 pm »
It's only right for him to stay there as agreed as long as he's playing and happy. I'd guess Bradley and Balagzi are a level above the league they're in though. Got a good feeling about Morton at Blackburn as well.
Yeah that's fair and I think the risk of going somewhere new on loan is always iffy when he seems settled and doing well

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104971 on: August 19, 2022, 10:50:32 pm »
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104972 on: August 19, 2022, 11:16:55 pm »
U18s live on lfctv tomorrow lunchtime against Leeds.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104974 on: August 20, 2022, 09:55:56 am »
Great news no?

Definitely great news. A vital influence at the Academy.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104975 on: August 20, 2022, 12:10:52 pm »
Any streams for the u18s at Leeds, ten minutes played so far ???
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104976 on: August 20, 2022, 12:16:08 pm »
Two lads on the wings for us look really good, great dribbling skills.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104977 on: August 20, 2022, 12:50:25 pm »
a couple look like they could be blown over by a breeze though :D

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104978 on: August 20, 2022, 12:55:42 pm »
Two lads on the wings for us look really good, great dribbling skills.
Yeah Doak especially just looks like he's going to make something happen all the time.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104979 on: August 20, 2022, 01:12:34 pm »
2 -0 down after 5 mins of the second half, awful defending.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104980 on: August 20, 2022, 01:24:28 pm »
Good finish from Doak, 2-1.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104981 on: August 20, 2022, 01:25:52 pm »
Doak looks so good. Wonderful ball through and a lovely finish.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104982 on: August 20, 2022, 02:29:42 pm »
Couldn't build on that good win last week but a really promising start for Doak.

The group formerly known as the u23s playing now  ;D

Cannonier playing, assuming because Stewart got sent off at the end of the last one


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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104983 on: August 21, 2022, 11:34:26 pm »
Watched the replay tonight. Doak is exciting (I like that his no.7 looks like a question mark) and Leeds had two outstanding players - the right back (2) and the tall 6 who came off having dominated the game. Liverpool’s ‘keeper looks like a ‘keeper’ too. A feature of the game for me was the lack of tackling in situations that called for a tackle. I’m getting old…
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104984 on: August 23, 2022, 08:02:38 pm »
Bump. Ive completely stopped following the youth setups mainly due to lack of time (and probably lack of excitement). Production line seems awfully quite at the moment, we seem to be struggling to bring players through to the first team compare to the other 4 teams (im not including Man City because…well its Man City)

Liverpool-
TAA
Jones

Arsenal-
Saka
Smith Row
Nketiah
Martinelli (?)

Man U-
Greenwood
Rashford
Elanga (?)
Mctominay

Chelsea-
James
Mount
James
Loftus Cheek

Spurs-
Winks
Dier (?)
Kane
Skipp

Some could be wrong and some are definitely missing from the other clubs, I just listed the ones at the top of my head that are still at their respective clubs.

I wonder if on pitch success results in poor development of youngsters. Do they get given less of a chance when the pressures of winning are so high? Or are we just not very good at bringing young lads through?

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104985 on: August 23, 2022, 08:05:47 pm »
Morton seems to be playing centre half in a cup game for Blackburn. Currently 1-0 down early on.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104986 on: August 23, 2022, 08:29:36 pm »



I wonder if on pitch success results in poor development of youngsters. Do they get given less of a chance when the pressures of winning are so high? Or are we just not very good at bringing young lads through?
Yes. Players like Mctominay, Elanga, Nketiah, winks, Loftus-Cheek etc.  wouldn't have got close to a side going for 90 points let alone repeated chances. We could have kept Morton, , Wilson Neco etc. And given more chances at a lower level

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104987 on: August 23, 2022, 09:03:22 pm »
Balagizi on the scoresheet against Fulham.

You know what must be done, Jurgen  ;D
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104988 on: August 23, 2022, 11:33:48 pm »
Balagizi on the scoresheet against Fulham.

You know what must be done, Jurgen  ;D
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104989 on: August 24, 2022, 12:33:58 am »
I went to watch Bradford v Blackburn tonight.

Morton played full 90 mins at Centre Back and let me tell you all. He was fucking outstanding.

Controlled everything from the back. Passing was top draw. Took corners.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104990 on: August 24, 2022, 01:25:50 am »
That's good about Morton. Interesting to see him play centre half when they rotated heavily in the last round of the cup and he played in midfield.

Hope he can cement his place in the team soon, if he can have a good year it'd be excellent for all parties. I think he has potential and is the type we could go forward with at least in the squad.

As for Balagizi, good to see him start well, get the impression he could definitely be playing at League 1 level. Crawley aren't even very good so he could perform even better with better quality around him. Still only 18 though so he has time to kick on in these next couple of years. Who knows, he could perform so well there that a Championship team is taking a punt on him in a year and not a League 1 side.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104991 on: August 24, 2022, 01:38:14 am »
Jaros kept a clean sheet for Stockport against Leicester. Another good keeeper along with Davies,Kelleher.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104992 on: August 24, 2022, 12:55:11 pm »
morton at CB seems really weird move.

i always thought that he looks a bit slight and the physical nature of the game could give him problems. Even more so when faced with grocks in the lower leagues


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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104993 on: August 24, 2022, 04:41:08 pm »
morton at CB seems really weird move.

i always thought that he looks a bit slight and the physical nature of the game could give him problems. Even more so when faced with grocks in the lower leagues



Honestly he was outstanding last night at CB.

 Here is what their local paper said about him:

Tyler Morton

In possession, played with slippers on. Looked at ease and played some lovely cross-field switches. Didn't look in too much trouble when Bradford tried to test him physically. Deserves a chance in the Championship. 8

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104994 on: August 24, 2022, 05:28:16 pm »
wow. long term successor to fabinho hopefully. such an intelligent player is Morton for his age.
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« Reply #104995 on: August 24, 2022, 05:32:02 pm »
Klopp's never going to use him at CB with his frame, he was talking him up as an 8 just before the loan as he needs to fill out more to be a 6.

A season in The Championship should do him good but he might struggle to get a run at CM as it's one of their stronger areas. Ultimately though when you're on loan you just need to take your chance when you get it, so the fact he's played well out of position last night is something to build on.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104996 on: August 24, 2022, 07:31:42 pm »
Klopp's never going to use him at CB with his frame, he was talking him up as an 8 just before the loan as he needs to fill out more to be a 6.

A season in The Championship should do him good but he might struggle to get a run at CM as it's one of their stronger areas. Ultimately though when you're on loan you just need to take your chance when you get it, so the fact he's played well out of position last night is something to build on.

No, Klopp won’t use him at CB but going out on loan is to gain match day experience and to be in the 1st team squad as a minimum.

Playing at CB in gets him to develop. Have a better understanding of what is going on in a game and have a picture. He won’t end up as a CB but last night did him the world of good.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104997 on: August 25, 2022, 02:15:32 pm »
he probably will get another chance at CB against hopefully lower opposition in the cups

and maybe if he performs well enough could just be a stopgap for blackburn there.

does he have the athleticism for a no 8 role in our squad? not the biggest and defensively aware for a no 6. he seems neither here or there kind of player. His passing, composure and awareness at centre midfield is pretty freaking good though and always impresses me when on the ball.

Lets hope he gets more game time on loan. would be good for his development where ever he plays on the pitch for sure.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104998 on: August 25, 2022, 04:20:00 pm »
Lets hope he gets more game time on loan. would be good for his development where ever he plays on the pitch for sure.

Do we not insert our must play so much percentage of matches, otherwise a fine/fee will be incurred clause in our loan deals anymore?
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104999 on: August 25, 2022, 04:27:59 pm »
Do we not insert our must play so much percentage of matches, otherwise a fine/fee will be incurred clause in our loan deals anymore?

think its a myth that have become a "fact" for some reason or another

I guess if the player on loan put some good enough performances then he will get the game time. Its a results based business after all.