Topic: COVID-19:VERIFIED news sources, 0 politishit, 0 CONSPIRACY SHITE

[filopastry]

Just to give an example of the sort of endless bullshit that gets posted, here is some more rubbish from a far-right nutjob and not entirely coincidentally GBNews presenter.

https://twitter.com/ThatAlexWoman/status/1474333849085784069

Shit like this doesn't happen by accident, it is all obviously created based on the very rare myocarditis issue, and people's fears around that.

And obviously nobody can "prove" its wrong, but anyone with half a brain should realise that we have monitoring systems in place, they identified a VERY rare issue with clotting for AZ and J&J and they identified the VERY rare issue with myocarditis with mRNA vaccines, does anyone find it plausible that they missed a legion of people having serious heart issues post booster?

[stoa]

That's the problem with social media and everyone being able to call themselves a journalist these days. Even if she heard that shite from her hairdresser the proper journalistic procedure would be to use this as a starting point and do some research like asking hospitals, doctors  or whatever whether they've noticed more heart problems lately and then try and find a link to the booster. It's not posting hearsay on Twitter making it actual news and fact for quite a few people. Even if at one point the tweet gets taken down (which in itself is rather unlikely I'd guess), the damage is already done.

[SP]

Just to give an example of the sort of endless bullshit that gets posted, here is some more rubbish from a far-right nutjob and not entirely coincidentally GBNews presenter.

https://twitter.com/ThatAlexWoman/status/1474333849085784069

Shit like this doesn't happen by accident, it is all obviously created based on the very rare myocarditis issue, and people's fears around that.

And obviously nobody can "prove" its wrong, but anyone with half a brain should realise that we have monitoring systems in place, they identified a VERY rare issue with clotting for AZ and J&J and they identified the VERY rare issue with myocarditis with mRNA vaccines, does anyone find it plausible that they missed a legion of people having serious heart issues post booster?

I replied to that…

Yet they all recovered rapidly enough for them to have their hair cut despite boosters only being available from December 13th for under 30s.

[TSC]

Just to give an example of the sort of endless bullshit that gets posted, here is some more rubbish from a far-right nutjob and not entirely coincidentally GBNews presenter.

https://twitter.com/ThatAlexWoman/status/1474333849085784069

Shit like this doesn't happen by accident, it is all obviously created based on the very rare myocarditis issue, and people's fears around that.

And obviously nobody can "prove" its wrong, but anyone with half a brain should realise that we have monitoring systems in place, they identified a VERY rare issue with clotting for AZ and J&J and they identified the VERY rare issue with myocarditis with mRNA vaccines, does anyone find it plausible that they missed a legion of people having serious heart issues post booster?

The fact she’s a presenter on GB News is an immediate ‘red flag’.  If she’s aiming nonsense at followers then she’s preaching to the anti-vaxx choir. 

[scouseman]

still feeling absolutely horrible with these flu like symptoms since having the booster shot. Nose is really bunked up with white thick mucus and a very persistent mucus cough. The good thing is I feel OK otherwise. Have been eating well and been able to get out and about at home watched some on todays football. Just hoping that it will get better soon. 

[Fromola]

The fact she’s a presenter on GB News is an immediate ‘red flag’.  If she’s aiming nonsense at followers then she’s preaching to the anti-vaxx choir.

This is why Andrew Neil walked away. He was happy helping set up a right-wing news channel, but didn't want his name associated with anti-vaxx cranks.

[filopastry]

I replied to that…

Yet they all recovered rapidly enough for them to have their hair cut despite boosters only being available from December 13th for under 30s.

 

[PaulF]

still feeling absolutely horrible with these flu like symptoms since having the booster shot. Nose is really bunked up with white thick mucus and a very persistent mucus cough. The good thing is I feel OK otherwise. Have been eating well and been able to get out and about at home watched some on todays football. Just hoping that it will get better soon. 

Mate. Stay away from the ashes of you want sport to make you feel better.
Sounds like a shitty cold ( no medical background whatever). Fresh air. Vitamin c . Plenty of water i guess.


Always amused me when I was teaching the ladies team at a medical school and someone went down injured. It was always me that was turned to even though it was a team of student physios , nurses and doctors.  Best I could come up with was magic sponge.

[thejbs]

I replied to that…

Might I also add, the hairdresser is also a common variable. What if her products or blow-drying techniques are causing heart issues?

[Trump's tiny tiny hands]

still feeling absolutely horrible with these flu like symptoms since having the booster shot. Nose is really bunked up with white thick mucus and a very persistent mucus cough. The good thing is I feel OK otherwise. Have been eating well and been able to get out and about at home watched some on todays football. Just hoping that it will get better soon.

I’ve had a nasty cold for over a week. Tested negative throughout, including PCR. The wife started feeling rough 2 days after her booster, 39 degree temp. She has tested positive but she quickly felt fine again. Feel like I’m muddying the waters here somewhat but the point is test test test, it’s the only way to be confident either way.

I have no idea how I’ve not got this damn thing, it is literally all around me.

[PaulF]

Might I also add, the hairdresser is also a common variable. What if her products or blow-drying techniques are causing heart issues?

What if having your hair cut exposes to you the virus. Makes you think.

[Andy82lfc]

Just to give an example of the sort of endless bullshit that gets posted, here is some more rubbish from a far-right nutjob and not entirely coincidentally GBNews presenter.

https://twitter.com/ThatAlexWoman/status/1474333849085784069

Shit like this doesn't happen by accident, it is all obviously created based on the very rare myocarditis issue, and people's fears around that.

Absolutely disgraceful that is a supposed ‘journalist’. The sort of hearsay you would expect some idiotic knuckle dagger to come out with but presented by a ‘journalist’ so the dangerous morons can now run off through their streets spouting it as fact.

Like you said she knows exactly what she is doing, wrapped up all innocently. All to gain herself more attention.

This is why Andrew Neil walked away. He was happy helping set up a right-wing news channel, but didn't want his name associated with anti-vaxx cranks.

He made his far right nut job bed, again all for more money and attention and won’t ever be able to crawl out of it.

[Lusty]

It's always an unnamed source isn't it? I remember back in the a early 1990s unnamed 'senior police officers ' were casting doubt on the innocence of the Birmingham Six and we went through it with all the bullshit leaks about Hillsborough.

And really strange that no one who is unvaccinated is in Maidstone Hospital with Covid.

Never mind mathematical inaccuracies that's the giveaway.

FWIW I know several people who work in Maidstone hospital, and I can confirm this is bollocks.  Combating unnamed sources with more unnamed sources, I know...

I think most of the covid patients get taken to Tunbridge Wells instead of Maidstone anyway.

[Nick110581]

Is the decision today on restrictions in England?

Know a few who tested positive Boxing Day morning after spending day with quite a lot.

Imagine that’s common throughout country.

[TSC]

Is the decision today on restrictions in England?

Know a few who tested positive Boxing Day morning after spending day with quite a lot.

Imagine that’s common throughout country.

Johnson’s too weak to make a decision beyond retention of current status.  Would be a big surprise if he attempts to go against the far right mob.  If anything he’s more likely to relax whatever light touch measures are in place currently.

[CraigDS]

I see the usual mob are kicking off at receiving a text to tell them to get boosted 

[killer-heels]

Johnson’s too weak to make a decision beyond retention of current status.  Would be a big surprise if he attempts to go against the far right mob.  If anything he’s more likely to relax whatever light touch measures are in place currently.

To be fair some of the measures include wanting to ban socialising indoors until the end of March and outdoor only restaurant and pub services until then. That is going to be very difficult to implement especially asking people not to socialise indoor for another full winter and beyond.

Last winter was very difficult for people and asking them to do that again wont be palatable. I am for the restrictions but even i squirm and the thought of asking people to do that.

[Nick110581]

To be fair some of the measures include wanting to ban socialising indoors until the end of March and outdoor only restaurant and pub services until then. That is going to be very difficult to implement especially asking people not to socialise indoor for another full winter and beyond.

Last winter was very difficult for people and asking them to do that again wont be palatable. I am for the restrictions but even i squirm and the thought of asking people to do that.

But surely that’s for the greater good ? Stops the spread and doesn’t overwhelm the NHS.

[PaulF]

But surely that’s for the greater good ? Stops the spread and doesn’t overwhelm the NHS.

Only if it's not overkill. If we can avoid overwhelming the NHS with lesser  restrictions. Then it's not for the greater good.
That said, I have neither the data, nor the skills to know where the balance lies.

[No666]

Mate of mine - elderly, had TB as a child - has tested positive. Do any of you well-informed people know how he gets access to anti-virals?

[Nick110581]

Only if it's not overkill. If we can avoid overwhelming the NHS with lesser  restrictions. Then it's not for the greater good.
That said, I have neither the data, nor the skills to know where the balance lies.

They need to explain but seems strange that other Governments bringing in restrictions and England aren’t.

[Lynx the saucy mynx]

To be fair some of the measures include wanting to ban socialising indoors until the end of March and outdoor only restaurant and pub services until then. That is going to be very difficult to implement especially asking people not to socialise indoor for another full winter and beyond.

Last winter was very difficult for people and asking them to do that again wont be palatable. I am for the restrictions but even i squirm and the thought of asking people to do that.

Would that include non essential shops? Because no one even bothers with masks in there.

[TSC]

Last winter was very difficult for people and asking them to do that again wont be palatable. I am for the restrictions but even i squirm and the thought of asking people to do that.

Last winter was a disaster for the tens of thousands dead.  Recall Johnson bellowing at Starmer in PMQs during September 2020 when refusing to invoke a circuit breaker.  So subsequently had to act far too late.

[filopastry]

I would be shocked if they implemented any large scale restrictions, hospitalisations are moving up in London but nothing too horrific yet and London has been at very high case levels for a while now.

Not saying it is the right or wrong decision as I have no idea if the NHS is able to cope with those kind of hospitalisation numbers in all areas of the country.

Knowing who is currently PM, I don't think this will be a particularly difficult decision for him, and indeed there is already some briefing coming out that people shouldn't expect any announcements today.

[So… Howard Philips]

Mate of mine - elderly, had TB as a child - has tested positive. Do any of you well-informed people know how he gets access to anti-virals?

I think they are prioritising those who are noted as clinically extremely vulnerable. My daughter recently had a transplant has received an email detailing the anti virals available and a PCR test kit.

Maybe you should ring 119?

[No666]

I think they are prioritising those who are noted as clinically extremely vulnerable. My daughter recently had a transplant has received an email detailing the anti virals available and a PCR test kit.

Maybe you should ring 119?

I suggested that to his husband so hopefully they'll get that moving.

[John Higgins]

I would be shocked if they implemented any large scale restrictions, hospitalisations are moving up in London but nothing too horrific yet and London has been at very high case levels for a while now.

Not saying it is the right or wrong decision as I have no idea if the NHS is able to cope with those kind of hospitalisation numbers in all areas of the country.

Knowing who is currently PM, I don't think this will be a particularly difficult decision for him, and indeed there is already some briefing coming out that people shouldn't expect any announcements today.

I agree with this. We also don't have a clear picture on what the incidental rate of admissions is though it appears to be much larger than with Delta.

[UntouchableLuis]

Looks like no restrictions before NYE anyway. Restaurants and pubs will be made up with that. Next few weeks are crucial really after NYE, if there isn't a big jump I'm hospitalisation or death after that then we can assume Omicron isn't as serious as first thought.

[PaulF]

Looks like no restrictions before NYE anyway. Restaurants and pubs will be made up with that. Next few weeks are crucial really after NYE, if there isn't a big jump I'm hospitalisation or death after that then we can assume Omicron isn't as serious as first thought.

Not wanting to sound negative, but given the huge numbers that should be self isolating, I'm not sure hospitality will see the numbers it needs.

[So… Howard Philips]

Not wanting to sound negative, but given the huge numbers that should be self isolating, I'm not sure hospitality will see the numbers it needs.

My son works in a hotel in the Lakes and - guess what- he and three other staff have just come down with Covid so not sure if his employers will cope on NYE

[UntouchableLuis]

Not wanting to sound negative, but given the huge numbers that should be self isolating, I'm not sure hospitality will see the numbers it needs.

Maybe not but still better than nothing.

[Stockholm Syndrome]

To be fair some of the measures include wanting to ban socialising indoors until the end of March and outdoor only restaurant and pub services until then. That is going to be very difficult to implement especially asking people not to socialise indoor for another full winter and beyond.

Last winter was very difficult for people and asking them to do that again wont be palatable. I am for the restrictions but even i squirm and the thought of asking people to do that.

Wait end of March? I thought the suggestion were only for a 2 to 4 week circuit breaker

[LanceLink!!!!!]

Boris and his cronies have spent billions on the (very successful) vaccination programme, another lockdown and furlough scheme will be the last thing he'll want to do.

[Hedley Lamarr]

Wait end of March? I thought the suggestion were only for a 2 to 4 week circuit breaker

The modelling laid out different scenarios, one was the closure of indoor hospitality until the end of March.  Other options were a two week circuit breaker and bringing in zero legal restrictions but advice about a loose set of guidelines.

[UntouchableLuis]

The modelling laid out different scenarios, one was the closure of indoor hospitality until the end of March.  Other options were a two week circuit breaker and bringing in zero legal restrictions but advice about a loose set of guidelines.

I can't imagine any social restrictions will be legal now. There's just no way it can be enforced and the majority won't follow it. It might even be counter productive- people will gather as a fuck you to Boris and his mates.

[RainbowFlick]

I can't imagine any social restrictions will be legal now. There's just no way it can be enforced and the majority won't follow it. It might even be counter productive- people will gather as a fuck you to Boris and his mates.

I think the 'majority' is hyperbole to be honest, a lot of people in this country talk a lot of talk but ultimately are subservient. But yeah, enforcement etc would be a problem.

I think as it is (masks/a bit of caution/work from home if you can) is probably the right thing for now.

[Nick110581]

I can't imagine any social restrictions will be legal now. There's just no way it can be enforced and the majority won't follow it. It might even be counter productive- people will gather as a fuck you to Boris and his mates.

Not sure the majority wouldn't follow them.

Just because Boris is a selfish c*nt doesn't mean you have to act the same way.

[SP]

Looks like no restrictions before NYE anyway. Restaurants and pubs will be made up with that. Next few weeks are crucial really after NYE, if there isn't a big jump I'm hospitalisation or death after that then we can assume Omicron isn't as serious as first thought.

Johnson won’t sober up between  Xmas and New Year.

[TepidT2O]

Scottish cases very very high the last three days… brace for some mind blowing U.K. figures….

[Thepooloflife]

Not wanting to sound negative, but given the huge numbers that should be self isolating, I'm not sure hospitality will see the numbers it needs.

Yep - not hospitality, but perhaps an indication of how some are worried right now.......the last two Spurs home games only had 40k, so less than two-thirds capacity - maybe some worried about the high Covid incidence in London and some self-isolating.