Author Topic: Westworld - HBO's next thingamajig (Read 98695 times)

Xxavi · « **Reply #640 on:** April 24, 2018, 05:17:43 am »

Quote from: vagabond on April 24, 2018, 12:24:52 am

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How is it that Charlotte knew the park better than Bernard? How could she have an entire lab down there collecting guests' experiences and DNA without Ford knowing? Or did he know and just let Devos carry on without caring? Perhaps it added to his misanthropy and motivation to bring the hosts to consciousness?

Also, "doesn't look like anything to me". Wonderful stuff, expertly delivered.
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I think two different timelines are shown again. The robot Bernard doesn't know about all of those labs, as we saw last season.

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JoeCole · « **Reply #641 on:** April 24, 2018, 05:34:56 am »

Loved that premiere. The stakes feel so much higher this season, there's actually a fear that the characters you like could die at any moment, which wasn't there in S1.

Quote from: vagabond on April 24, 2018, 12:24:52 am

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How is it that Charlotte knew the park better than Bernard? How could she have an entire lab down there collecting guests' experiences and DNA without Ford knowing? Or did he know and just let Devos carry on without caring? Perhaps it added to his misanthropy and motivation to bring the hosts to consciousness?

Also, "doesn't look like anything to me". Wonderful stuff, expertly delivered.
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My guess is that Ford knew about it. The young Ford robot that approaches William/Man in Black in this episode was a lot more advanced than when we saw it in S1, it was speaking with a mixture of the voice of young and old Ford, and also had knowledge of William and what he wanted from the park, as well as what the new narrative was. He probably used whatever that tech is to add more of his current self into the old build.

Another interesting point on that is WHY they're collecting that data. We know that it's mostly the rich and powerful that visit the park, so maybe they're planning on killing those in high places and replacing them with bots they control, therefore giving Delos control of.. everything? Even in the real world.

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Funky_Gibbons · « **Reply #642 on:** April 24, 2018, 08:09:55 am »

I'm so glad this is back on, one thing I'm confused about;

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How can the hosts guns now kill people? I remember they used to shoot a kind of 'buck shot' which would penetrate when they shot other hosts but wouldn't harm humans.

Now they're shooting the guests all over the place.

Also looks like there's no chance of Ford coming back, looking at that rotting corpse.

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Chris~ · « **Reply #643 on:** April 25, 2018, 08:13:38 am »

Quote from: Funky_Gibbons on April 24, 2018, 08:09:55 am

I'm so glad this is back on, one thing I'm confused about;

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How can the hosts guns now kill people? I remember they used to shoot a kind of 'buck shot' which would penetrate when they shot other hosts but wouldn't harm humans.

Now they're shooting the guests all over the place.

Also looks like there's no chance of Ford coming back, looking at that rotting corpse.

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Bernard says in the barn that ford must have done something so they think all people are hosts. How the technology works that hosts' bullets can tell the difference i dont know.

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they also confirmed delos have been taking people's DNA and last season we had a human come back as a host. Still not ruling out a bost ford.

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Funky_Gibbons · « **Reply #644 on:** April 25, 2018, 04:13:08 pm »

Quote from: Chris~ on April 25, 2018, 08:13:38 am

Bernard says in the barn that ford must have done something so they think all people are hosts. How the technology works that hosts' bullets can tell the difference i dont know.

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they also confirmed delos have been taking people's DNA and last season we had a human come back as a host. Still not ruling out a bost ford.
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I wonder whether 'Ford' has used his DNA in a host and comes back in a completely different body or as the CGI younger version they used in the first series.

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WhereAngelsPlay · « **Reply #645 on:** April 25, 2018, 08:06:30 pm »

Quote from: Funky_Gibbons on April 25, 2018, 04:13:08 pm

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I wonder whether 'Ford' has used his DNA in a host and comes back in a completely different body or as the CGI younger version they used in the first series.
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I am wondering if

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The hosts printed off a load of new bodies to put into the lake/sea,they certainly had plenty of time 11 days & where is Charlotte ?

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Funky_Gibbons · « **Reply #646 on:** April 26, 2018, 04:00:06 pm »

Quote from: WhereAngelsPlay on April 25, 2018, 08:06:30 pm

I am wondering if
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The hosts printed off a load of new bodies to put into the lake/sea,they certainly had plenty of time 11 days & where is Charlotte ?
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Their plans sounded a lore anarchic than trying to sneak out undetected. Delores was talking about taking over the outside world so I'm not sure they'd try and disguise the fact they've escaped.

I'm interested to know what Delores was told the host had found towards the end....The man in black? Delores dad who they hid the code in during series 1?

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WhereAngelsPlay · « **Reply #647 on:** April 26, 2018, 11:12:08 pm »

Quote from: Funky_Gibbons on April 26, 2018, 04:00:06 pm

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Their plans sounded a lore anarchic than trying to sneak out undetected. Delores was talking about taking over the outside world so I'm not sure they'd try and disguise the fact they've escaped.

I'm interested to know what Delores was told the host had found towards the end....The man in black? Delores dad who they hid the code in during series 1?
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What better way to do that than to fake their own deaths though.Bernard knew that an army was on its way so I have a suspicion that he has done something to Charlotte and then warned them,had he not then wherever he went she would've followed.

No way would he have killed them all like he claimed he thought he had.

Who knows,either way it was a great opener.

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The G in Gerrard · « **Reply #648 on:** April 27, 2018, 01:59:43 pm »

Just about to watch s2 episode 1. Looking forward to it.

WhereAngelsPlay · « **Reply #649 on:** April 30, 2018, 02:51:00 am »

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Am hoping that Simon shows his face and that his part in ep1 wasn't a one off

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Something Worse · « **Reply #650 on:** April 30, 2018, 08:14:43 am »

Jonathan Tucker!

WhereAngelsPlay · « **Reply #651 on:** April 30, 2018, 10:59:49 am »

Quote from: WhereAngelsPlay on April 30, 2018, 02:51:00 am

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Am hoping that Simon shows his face and that his part in ep1 wasn't a one off
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Looks like they have signed up a few stars for one off cameos.

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BarryCrocker · « **Reply #652 on:** April 30, 2018, 11:47:47 am »

Quote from: WhereAngelsPlay on April 30, 2018, 10:59:49 am

Looks like they have signed up a few stars for one off cameos.

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Hanzee from Fargo Season 2 and Mother Superior from Trainspotting

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Brian Blessed · « **Reply #653 on:** April 30, 2018, 04:54:54 pm »

Just so I have it straight in my head...

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We have three timelines now...or so it appears...

Young bitter Billy after his visit in the park, who is now ruthless.

Bernard two weeks after Ford's death with the angry baldy.

Everything else happening immediately after Ford's death and in those two weeks.

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Yiannis · « **Reply #654 on:** May 1, 2018, 12:04:22 pm »

I'm shit with names on most shows so remind me please who's Billy?

voodoo ray · « **Reply #655 on:** May 1, 2018, 12:07:30 pm »

Quote from: Yiannis on May 1, 2018, 12:04:22 pm

I'm shit with names on most shows so remind me please who's Billy?

Younger Ed Harris.

Funky_Gibbons · « **Reply #656 on:** May 1, 2018, 01:13:14 pm »

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So the area that young William took Delores to in the park which was under construction looked to be the same place as the lake/river in episode 1 which had all the dead hosts in it?

Delores later said she'd been shown a weapon and she was going to use it to kill all the humans, she must have been talking about that lake?

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voodoo ray · « **Reply #657 on:** May 1, 2018, 01:29:18 pm »

Quote from: Funky_Gibbons on May 1, 2018, 01:13:14 pm

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So the area that young William took Delores to in the park which was under construction looked to be the same place as the lake/river in episode 1 which had all the dead hosts in it?

Delores later said she'd been shown a weapon and she was going to use it to kill all the humans, she must have been talking about that lake?

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Dunno if it's there but there are a few all on their way to the same place now.

vagabond · « **Reply #658 on:** May 2, 2018, 02:51:14 am »

Quote from: Funky_Gibbons on May 1, 2018, 01:13:14 pm

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So the area that young William took Delores to in the park which was under construction looked to be the same place as the lake/river in episode 1 which had all the dead hosts in it?

Delores later said she'd been shown a weapon and she was going to use it to kill all the humans, she must have been talking about that lake?

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That would be my reading of it too.

Trada · « **Reply #659 on:** May 2, 2018, 02:52:24 am »

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Enjoying the new series so far, I was wondering if they killed off the robots in the lake who had not reached a stage past how a robot thinks. after all in that video she killed that warrior and said not all of us will make it behold the valley. And makes me believe they may go down the Futureworld route when the company was replacing the rich, the famous and world leaders with robots as they visited the park or at least use all the dark stuff they did to blackmail them.

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Yiannis · « **Reply #660 on:** May 2, 2018, 10:57:55 am »

Quote from: voodoo ray on May 1, 2018, 12:07:30 pm

Younger Ed Harris.

Thought so but his name is William unless bitter Billy is some kind of an expression I am not aware of

Party Phil · « **Reply #661 on:** May 2, 2018, 12:30:13 pm »

Quote from: Old Saint Nick Wants An Xmas 69! on April 30, 2018, 04:54:54 pm

Just so I have it straight in my head...

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We have three timelines now...or so it appears...

Young bitter Billy after his visit in the park, who is now ruthless.

Bernard two weeks after Ford's death with the angry baldy.

Everything else happening immediately after Ford's death and in those two weeks.

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Here's a link which explains the various timelines, updated with the latest from S2E2 (plenty of spoilers for new viewers obviously)

http://collider.com/westworld-timeline-explained/

Brian Blessed · « **Reply #662 on:** May 2, 2018, 01:23:29 pm »

Quote from: Party Phil on May 2, 2018, 12:30:13 pm

Here's a link which explains the various timelines, updated with the latest from S2E2 (plenty of spoilers for new viewers obviously)

http://collider.com/westworld-timeline-explained/

Nice one, thanks Phil!

El Lobo · « **Reply #663 on:** May 2, 2018, 01:28:14 pm »

Thanks for that Phil, I almost literally had no idea what timelines were going on

Brian Blessed · « **Reply #664 on:** May 2, 2018, 01:52:02 pm »

Yes, it is great. There is also a link at the bottom saying it's renewed for a third series, so good news there aswell.

CraigDS · « **Reply #665 on:** May 2, 2018, 01:54:00 pm »

Aye that's a good read. Think I had most of that down in my head but that confirmed bits I wasn't sure on.

Trada · « **Reply #666 on:** May 7, 2018, 03:34:27 pm »

Series 2 episode 3.

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I love the fact at the beginning of 3 they drop you straight into a park world you knew nothing about

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WhereAngelsPlay · « **Reply #667 on:** May 7, 2018, 06:11:48 pm »

Quote from: Trada on May 7, 2018, 03:34:27 pm

Series 2 episode 3.

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I love the fact at the beginning of 3 they drop you straight into a park world you knew nothing about
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Did you pick up on the tune ?

Was a very good episode,my favorite line was "She has a dragon".

El Lobo · « **Reply #668 on:** May 7, 2018, 06:12:46 pm »

Quote from: WhereAngelsPlay on May 7, 2018, 06:11:48 pm

Did you pick up on the tune ?

Was a very good episode,my favorite line was "She has a dragon".

Everything is better with seven nation army

WhereAngelsPlay · « **Reply #669 on:** May 7, 2018, 06:32:02 pm »

Quote from: Eel Lobo on May 7, 2018, 06:12:46 pm

Everything is better with seven nation army

Hearing it brought a smile to my face,I liked how they added the base from the original to the Djawadi version.The Sitar is a wonderful instrument.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/zjupARl4QX0" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/zjupARl4QX0</a>

Trada · « **Reply #670 on:** May 8, 2018, 02:45:06 am »

Quote from: WhereAngelsPlay on May 7, 2018, 06:11:48 pm

Did you pick up on the tune ?

Was a very good episode,my favorite line was "She has a dragon".

No I didnt get the tune......It was driving me mad at the time, but I just couldn't get it.

JoeCole · « **Reply #671 on:** May 8, 2018, 09:03:21 am »

Thought ep3 tied quite a few things together nicely. Loving Sizemore this season

WhereAngelsPlay · « **Reply #672 on:** May 8, 2018, 12:15:39 pm »

Quote from: Trada on May 8, 2018, 02:45:06 am

No I didnt get the tune......It was driving me mad at the time, but I just couldn't get it.

The base gave it away for me,watched with the headphones as the missus was asleep and I woke her up humming away

Saul Goodman · « **Reply #673 on:** May 8, 2018, 10:33:27 pm »

After not liking the opening episode to this season, I must say it has improved hugely since.

Spongebob Redpants · « **Reply #674 on:** May 10, 2018, 08:39:17 am »

Reading some of the comments on here , thank fuck I'm not the only one occasionally confused as to what's going on !

Might have to rewatch S1 to get back on track.

El Lobo · « **Reply #675 on:** May 10, 2018, 09:50:56 am »

Quote from: Spongebob Redpants on May 10, 2018, 08:39:17 am

Reading some of the comments on here , thank fuck I'm not the only one occasionally confused as to what's going on !

Might have to rewatch S1 to get back on track.

I'm having to go back and read that timeline post on the previous page after every episode

And I'm still confused. Good though.

Yiannis · « **Reply #676 on:** May 10, 2018, 02:45:02 pm »

Quote from: Spongebob Redpants on May 10, 2018, 08:39:17 am

Reading some of the comments on here , thank fuck I'm not the only one occasionally confused as to what's going on !

Might have to rewatch S1 to get back on track.

Watch a recap of it on youtube.

Mr Mingebag Squid · « **Reply #677 on:** May 11, 2018, 03:38:07 pm »

Sky did a one hour recap show - was quite good prior to series two

oojason · « **Reply #678 on:** May 12, 2018, 11:28:09 am »

Jimmi Simpson does a top 6-minute recap here...

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/zwqfoTOdXL4" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/zwqfoTOdXL4</a>

and Alt Shift X (the guy who does the superb Game Of Thrones episode explanations), now also does Westworld too...

https://www.youtube.com/user/JaiWbio/videos

FlashingBlade · « **Reply #679 on:** May 12, 2018, 11:34:20 am »

Quote from: Spongebob Redpants on May 10, 2018, 08:39:17 am

Reading some of the comments on here , thank fuck I'm not the only one occasionally confused as to what's going on !

Might have to rewatch S1 to get back on track.

We watch each episode twice now ...the time jumps can quickly throw you...missus has also started re watching S1...Ive watched it twice and only realised second time who young William was......and it doesnt help necking a bottle of wine during it either!