Topic: Daniel Sturridge

[Billy The Kid]

I like Sturridge. Seems like a good lad by all accounts. Such a pity injuries have ravaged his career so much. Can't help but feel sorry for him

To be honest though, I gave up on him ever being a mainstay for us well over a year ago.

[Ashburton]

I like Sturridge. Seems like a good lad by all accounts. Such a pity injuries have ravaged his career so much. Can't help but feel sorry for him

To be honest though, I gave up on him ever being a mainstay for us well over a year ago.

Impossible to sell, too.  Wages are too high, and nobody wants to sign a player on wages (even reduced), who isn't going to play for them.  I'd expect him to stay to the end of his contract, try to put a good run of form together and get the club to bank that.  Loan the lad to Bournemouth next season

[liverpool185]

Was being ill just a cooked up story to cover up his injury? How on earth does one manage to get injured in a rehab session?

Feel for the guy, it must kill him knowing his body won't hold up. If I was him i would retire at the end of season, surely putting yourself through the mental side of constantly being injured can't be good in the long run..

[sms1986]

Was being ill just a cooked up story to cover up his injury? How on earth does one manage to get injured in a rehab session?

Feel for the guy, it must kill him knowing his body won't hold up. If I was him i would retire at the end of season, surely putting yourself through the mental side of constantly being injured can't be good in the long run..

From the sounds of it, he was ill with a virus, it went away and came back, but then he got the injury.

For someone with such a history of injuries, it's probably not all that strange for Sturridge to get an injury during rehab.

[ggcc14]

This guy HAS to go in the summer, waste of wages.

[petercormack]

This guy HAS to go in the summer, waste of wages.

As someone said above we'll never be able to sell. Just hope we can loan him out and pay half his wages

[killer-heels]

ah you saw this as well then

[newterp]

Reminds me a bit of Agger - his body just wasn't built for top flight rigors. We need to sell and get whatever we can fast. Sucks that he is in his "prime"

[ggcc14]

As someone said above we'll never be able to sell. Just hope we can loan him out and pay half his wages

I'm sure we will.

[killer-heels]

As someone said above we'll never be able to sell. Just hope we can loan him out and pay half his wages

We will definitely find a buyer for Sturridge. Its not even a doubt. We probably may not get more than Ł15m but we will definitely sell him. He hasnt been unavailable for that much of the season.

[RedForeverTT]

We will definitely find a buyer for Sturridge. Its not even a doubt. We probably may not get more than Ł15m but we will definitely sell him. He hasnt been unavailable for that much of the season.

If he string a few matches together before the end of the season scoring a few goals between them, then maybe market opinions about him could change. Otherwise we are stuck with a broken footballer. Top clubs do not keep unfit players no matter how good they were. Owen Hargreaves, Vidic (as soon as he started getting injured frequently), Woodgate comes to mind.

In  the same way, I was glad we managed to get rid of Carroll even though it was on the cheap. What good is a talented footballer who couldn't play? Keep a lookout for Carroll getting injured while damaging his snooker table and miss 4 months of the season.

If someone came in with Ł10m for Sturridge, I would bite his hands off. After all, we didn't pay much for Sturridge and it wouldn't be a big loss.

[Keith Lard]

If he string a few matches together before the end of the season scoring a few goals between them, then maybe market opinions about him could change. Otherwise we are stuck with a broken footballer. Top clubs do not keep unfit players no matter how good they were. Owen Hargreaves, Vidic (as soon as he started getting injured frequently), Woodgate comes to mind.

In  the same way, I was glad we managed to get rid of Carroll even though it was on the cheap. What good is a talented footballer who couldn't play? Keep a lookout for Carroll getting injured while damaging his snooker table and miss 4 months of the season.

If someone came in with Ł10m for Sturridge, I would bite his hands off. After all, we didn't pay much for Sturridge and it wouldn't be a big loss.

This appears to be the brutal truth. So sad.

[Chakan]

This appears to be the brutal truth. So sad.

Not brutal at all he's literally been injured for 3 and a half years.

[Phil M]

11, 26, 7, 11, 5.

Dan's first team Premier league starts over the past 5 seasons to date. The 26 being 13/14 of course when he banged in 21 goals and was unstoppable
alongside Luisito.

[PaulF]

11, 26, 7, 11, 5.

Dan's first team Premier league starts over the past 5 seasons to date. The 26 being 13/14 of course when he banged in 21 goals and was unstoppable
alongside Luisito.

Probably scared Luisito would eat him alive if he didn't play

[darragh85]

Probably scared Luisito would eat him alive if he didn't play

i think he brought out the best in him. I think Sturridge always wanted to do as good as Luis or better.

Its sad its come to this. this guy was a terrific talent.

[jooneyisdagod]

ah you saw this as well then

I thought the same thing.

[bird_lfc]

He's the strikers equvilant of Ledley King

When match fit an in form, probably the country's best player. same as King, if he didn't have such bad fortune he probably would be classed as the best English center back for some time.

[Always_A_Red]

Obviously inevitable he'll be sold in the summer. Feel sorry for him but its gone beyond a joke now. You just cant be paying someone Ł120k a week to start 23 league games in 3 years.

Paper talks suggesting we're going to hold out for Ł30m, similar to what we got for Benteke. Personally don't think we'll get half of that.

[Haemoglobin]

He's the strikers equvilant of Ledley King

When match fit an in form, probably the country's best player. same as King, if he didn't have such bad fortune he probably would be classed as the best English center back for some time.

Absolutely, and we as Liverpool fans should afford him the same respect.

It sadly makes most sense for him to move on now, as Klopp needs players he can physically depend upon, and the full, final realisation of the grim reality of his irreparable physical fragility, after all we've done to attempt to 'fix' him, can't be avoided.

However, as I've said in this thread in the past, anyone putting it across with a sort of "good riddance" vibe can fuck right off. Dan will always have 13/14, that'll always afford him a place in the hearts of supporters like me, with an acknowledgment that he was one of our most talented strikers robbed of the chance to become a club legend by a body just that bit too brittle for this game.

Imagine having all that ability, but it being caged in a physical vessel that constantly prohibits its full expression? That might well sound extremely dramatic, as he's not actually paralysed like some poor geniuses are, and can clearly still live a rich, full life outside of the highest level of the sport, but he's effectively been denied the shot at greatness his talent deserved. Wish more than ever now that the side hadn't let him down so pathetically in the Europa final.

[rscanderlech]

Impossible to sell, too.  Wages are too high, and nobody wants to sign a player on wages (even reduced), who isn't going to play for them.  I'd expect him to stay to the end of his contract, try to put a good run of form together and get the club to bank that.  Loan the lad to Bournemouth next season

Loaning him out to lower ranked teams that have a fighting chance of taking points of our rivals would be the next best thing to selling.

[SamAteTheRedAcid]

Imagine having all that ability, but it being caged in a physical vessel that constantly prohibits its full expression?

Daniel Sturridge. The Stephen Hawking of LFC

[El Lobo]

To be fair, Ledley King used to come back from injury and looks like Franco Baresi and Franz Beckenbauer rolled into one for a couple of games before he got injured again. Studge just seems to get worse 

[Haemoglobin]

Daniel Sturridge. The Stephen Hawking of LFC

Some of his understanding of space is far cleverer 

To be fair, Ledley King used to come back from injury and looks like Franco Baresi and Franz Beckenbauer rolled into one for a couple of games before he got injured again. Studge just seems to get worse 

King was indeed extraordinary. At various times it was like he bypassed the whole concept of match fitness.

I don't think Sturridge has that peculiar superpower, and I can't remember the last time he'd reached match fitness and was in form. It feels more like a hazy memory from a bygone era.

[UntouchableLuis]

West Ham or Palace 30 million easily this summer.

[Clayton Bigsby]

To be fair, Ledley King used to come back from injury and looks like Franco Baresi and Franz Beckenbauer rolled into one for a couple of games before he got injured again. Studge just seems to get worse 

Always in time for us as well   

[simesy]

It seems a bit like de ja vu like when aurelio was here. A rolls royce of a player but out more than in.

[clinical]

Just seen a replay of the 5-1 in 2014. He was rapid. He looks a complete different player now.

[ggcc14]

Do we know what is wrong with him? 

[newterp]

Do we know what is wrong with him? 

Mentally or physically??

[Buenasnoches]

He'll be gone in the summer, no doubt. During 13/14, Suarez was the best player in the world and the thing is that Dan wasn't that far behind him, that's how good he could be. Sad, innit?

[KurtVerbose]

He had a cold, then he had a hip injury.

How did he injure his hip when he's in bed with a cold?

I'm not trying to be funny. Ok, I am a bit, but it does show how fragile he is.

[CraigDS]

He had a cold, then he had a hip injury.

How did he injure his hip when he's in bed with a cold?

I'm not trying to be funny. Ok, I am a bit, but it does show how fragile he is.

He did his hip in his first rehab session after coming back from being ill. According to Klopp.

[richiedouglas]

Just seen a replay of the 5-1 in 2014. He was rapid. He looks a complete different player now.

Physiologically (I think that's the word) what would make a player slow down more after an injury? I wondered whether they would actually slow down or in their head they wouldn't feel they could push as much.

[potatomato33]

How did he injure his hip when he's in bed with a cold?

He sneezed.

[didi shamone]

Physiologically (I think that's the word) what would make a player slow down more after an injury? I wondered whether they would actually slow down or in their head they wouldn't feel they could push as much.

Roy Keane was slow as tar after hip surgery.  Gerrard slowed after groin surgery.  Lucas after knee surgery. Essien too. Torres as well. Major surgery has had that effect on loads of players. Anyhow he wouldn't be starting any games so he won't be missed.

[jooneyisdagod]

Just seen a replay of the 5-1 in 2014. He was rapid. He looks a complete different player now.

He was never lightning^TM.

Had to say that because that was in many ways the point of starting the thread. "He was never lightning" was actually becoming the view of far too many.

I would hate to say get rid, especially in the light of Falcao suddenly regaining his speed after 2 years of abject performances and looking a different player as a result. I for one am hoping that Sturridge is showing signs of recovery in training, but if not, then maybe we just have to bite the bullet and allow him to leave. Maybe a move to a slower and less intense league is what he needs to rebuild his fitness and if PSG are interested as rumoured, it might work well for both parties.

[jooneyisdagod]

Roy Keane was slow as tar after hip surgery.  Gerrard slowed after groin surgery.  Lucas after knee surgery. Essien too. Torres as well. Major surgery has had that effect on loads of players. Anyhow he wouldn't be starting any games so he won't be missed.

Gerrard also lost his shooting power. He was never able to generate that whip and speed of movement in his leg to smash one in from 30 metres out with a relatively small backlift. Lucas as you rightly pointed out is a shell of the player he was before the injury. Torres lost acceleration and became half the player he was. You're absolutely right in what you've said. Injury and surgeries have a major impact on players.

[didi shamone]

Gerrard also lost his shooting power. He was never able to generate that whip and speed of movement in his leg to smash one in from 30 metres out with a relatively small backlift. Lucas as you rightly pointed out is a shell of the player he was before the injury. Torres lost acceleration and became half the player he was. You're absolutely right in what you've said. Injury and surgeries have a major impact on players.

Up until major hip surgery Sturridge always returned with a bang. I still think he'll score plenty goals in a different team. Perhaps a different league. Although always with the "if his body holds up" clause.

[Lolo]

11, 26, 7, 11, 5.

Dan's first team Premier league starts over the past 5 seasons to date. The 26 being 13/14 of course when he banged in 21 goals and was unstoppable
alongside Luisito.

Those figures, in particular the last 3 seasons, do make for quite dismal reading, and (assuming they are correct) even 13/14 when we probably played 46 games he only managed to start in just over 1/2 of them.
He looks a completely different player now compared with even 2 years ago, but despite everything he still manages a quite respectable 1 in every 2.5 games strike rate.
He's not finished, but I'm not sure if he'll still be here in 6 months time.