Author Topic: The newbie apple thread (Read 36117 times)

iSmiff · « **Reply #200 on:** March 27, 2007, 11:08:42 am »

dont you see me in your watchers list

I AM LOOKING AT YOU

iSmiff · « **Reply #201 on:** March 27, 2007, 11:22:08 am »

all that software nidgemo, does it not fill up the hard drive and do you have it all backed up on discs so it can be reinstalled when the macbook crashes

nidgemo · « **Reply #202 on:** March 27, 2007, 11:38:01 am »

Quote from: Smiff on March 27, 2007, 11:22:08 am

all that software nidgemo, does it not fill up the hard drive and do you have it all backed up on discs so it can be reinstalled when the macbook crashes

THEY DON'T CRASH!

GinKop · « **Reply #203 on:** March 27, 2007, 11:38:48 am »

Quote from: Smiff on March 27, 2007, 10:35:09 am

so what spec Macbook should i get for just casual surfing of the net and maybe watching the odd divx movie on?

When i get my Macbook.

I'm getting one soon? I'm confused though, shouldn't it be you giving me the advice?

(sticks right arm in the air, and shouts) MAC power.

iSmiff · « **Reply #204 on:** March 27, 2007, 11:40:41 am »

Quote from: nidgemo 3.11 on March 27, 2007, 11:38:01 am

THEY DON'T CRASH!

sounds like someone is too lazy to burn off copies of all the software

(are your bank details still on the hard drive, i could run a data recovery app to get them if they are)

iSmiff · « **Reply #205 on:** March 27, 2007, 11:41:29 am »

Quote from: GinKop on March 27, 2007, 11:38:48 am

I'm getting one soon? I'm confused though, shouldn't it be you giving me the advice?

(sticks right arm in the air, and shouts) MAC power.

i dont give advice about macs, i leave that to mac users, soon as i get mine i'll be throwing my considerable opinion about on the matter

nidgemo · « **Reply #206 on:** March 27, 2007, 11:43:12 am »

Quote from: Smiff on March 27, 2007, 11:40:41 am

sounds like someone is too lazy to burn off copies of all the software

(are your bank details still on the hard drive, i could run a data recovery app to get them if they are)

35 pass overwrite with zeros.

Get data off THAT hard drive, bitch.

iSmiff · « **Reply #207 on:** March 27, 2007, 11:46:18 am »

thanks for telling me the wiping technique you used, thats the easiest way for me to get the info back

GinKop · « **Reply #208 on:** March 27, 2007, 11:46:40 am »

OK, I'll ask Nidge then.

Nidge,

I'm buying a macbook soon. Is it worth going for the 2ghz core 2 duo, or will the 1.83ghz suffice? My usage rate will be HIGH.

Thanks, Nidge'll Fix It

Gin

iSmiff · « **Reply #209 on:** March 27, 2007, 11:47:41 am »

so what do you expect to get for your old laptop nidgemo

whats the going rate these days, you dont even have an airport extreme in it, can it take one

nidgemo · « **Reply #210 on:** March 27, 2007, 11:48:38 am »

Quote from: GinKop on March 27, 2007, 11:46:40 am

OK, I'll ask Nidge then.

Nidge,

I'm buying a macbook soon. Is it worth going for the 2ghz core 2 duo, or will the 1.83ghz suffice? My usage rate will be HIGH.

Thanks, Nidge'll Fix It

Gin

High useage in what sense? What'll you be using it for?

Personally, I would (and DID a few weeks ago) go for a refurbed 2Ghz dual core. They're new anyway, just have a damaged box most of the time.

iSmiff · « **Reply #211 on:** March 27, 2007, 11:49:28 am »

and the bank was fine giving your that second mortgage on the house?

nidgemo · « **Reply #212 on:** March 27, 2007, 11:51:21 am »

Quote from: Smiff on March 27, 2007, 11:47:41 am

so what do you expect to get for your old laptop nidgemo

whats the going rate these days, you dont even have an airport extreme in it, can it take one

Hoping for in excess of £300, given macs hold their value so well.

Airport connections etc are already in the machine, and it's only a few £ to get one...

http://www.macupgrades.co.uk/store/machine.php?name=ibook-g4#exp

A monkey could fit it.

iSmiff · « **Reply #213 on:** March 27, 2007, 11:52:31 am »

do macbooks have PCMCIA card slots, the sort that you would use for a wireless data card(the 3g ones)

nidgemo · « **Reply #214 on:** March 27, 2007, 11:53:49 am »

Quote from: Smiff on March 27, 2007, 11:49:28 am

and the bank was fine giving your that second mortgage on the house?

£534 ex vat.

2GHz dual intel, 80Gig, 512 (which is a bit shitty) DVD writer, bluetooth, wireless 802.11n/g, internal microphone / isight camera, remote control, does of software, inc bootcamp and windows / OS 10.4.9 pre installed.

Cheap as chips.

nidgemo · « **Reply #215 on:** March 27, 2007, 11:54:13 am »

Quote from: Smiff on March 27, 2007, 11:52:31 am

do macbooks have PCMCIA card slots, the sort that you would use for a wireless data card(the 3g ones)

Only the titanium versions (Powerbooks)

GinKop · « **Reply #216 on:** March 27, 2007, 11:55:55 am »

Quote from: nidgemo 3.11 on March 27, 2007, 11:48:38 am

High useage in what sense? What'll you be using it for?

Personally, I would (and DID a few weeks ago) go for a refurbed 2Ghz dual core. They're new anyway, just have a damaged box most of the time.

I say high, it's probably more medium considering I won't be doing anything like Aperature or Final Cut on it. It will be just internet surfing, gratuitous downloading and playing games like FM2007 and other mac compatible games.

Do they do refurbed Core 2 Duo yet?

iSmiff · « **Reply #217 on:** March 27, 2007, 11:56:32 am »

so is there any alternative for the lesser macbook range that you know off

thats actually a pretty good price nidgemo, but without VAT most things are

iSmiff · « **Reply #218 on:** March 27, 2007, 11:57:33 am »

Quote from: GinKop on March 27, 2007, 11:55:55 am

I say high, it's probably more medium considering I won't be doing anything like Aperature or Final Cut on it. It will be just internet surfing, gratuitous downloading and playing games like FM2007 and other mac compatible games.

Do they do refurbed Core 2 Duo yet?

i'd class that as low end stuff mostly, depending on whether those "compatible games" are 3d or not

GinKop · « **Reply #219 on:** March 27, 2007, 11:57:36 am »

Quote from: Smiff on March 27, 2007, 11:56:32 am

so is there any alternative for the lesser macbook range that you know off

thats actually a pretty good price nidgemo, but without VAT most things are

Smiff, which mac are you looking at?

nidgemo · « **Reply #220 on:** March 27, 2007, 11:58:11 am »

Quote from: GinKop on March 27, 2007, 11:55:55 am

I say high, it's probably more medium considering I won't be doing anything like Aperature or Final Cut on it. It will be just internet surfing, gratuitous downloading and playing games like FM2007 and other mac compatible games.

Do they do refurbed Core 2 Duo yet?

Indeed they do - I bought this one...

http://store.apple.com/Apple/WebObjects/ukstore.woa/wa/RSLID?nplm=FA472

nidgemo · « **Reply #221 on:** March 27, 2007, 12:00:18 pm »

Quote from: Smiff on March 27, 2007, 11:56:32 am

so is there any alternative for the lesser macbook range that you know off

Well, you could get a PC.

Quote from: Smiff on March 27, 2007, 11:56:32 am

thats actually a pretty good price nidgemo, but without VAT most things are

I know. But I have a friendly boss.

Anyway - who's logged into smiffs account? Put your guesses here...

iSmiff · « **Reply #222 on:** March 27, 2007, 12:02:21 pm »

thats a shame, i was so close to buying one

Mudface_ · « **Reply #223 on:** March 27, 2007, 12:02:48 pm »

Quote from: nidgemo 3.11 on March 27, 2007, 11:58:11 am

Indeed they do - I bought this one...

http://store.apple.com/Apple/WebObjects/ukstore.woa/wa/RSLID?nplm=FA472

That's a Core Duo though, not a Core 2 Duo.

bradigor · « **Reply #224 on:** March 27, 2007, 12:03:56 pm »

Quote from: nidgemo 3.11 on March 27, 2007, 12:00:18 pm

Well, you could get a PC.

I know. But I have a friendly boss.

Anyway - who's logged into smiffs account? Put your guesses here...

he finally woke up

GinKop · « **Reply #225 on:** March 27, 2007, 12:04:02 pm »

Quote from: nidgemo 3.11 on March 27, 2007, 11:58:11 am

Indeed they do - I bought this one...

http://store.apple.com/Apple/WebObjects/ukstore.woa/wa/RSLID?nplm=FA472

There are some great offers there. I'm going to for 2GB of Ram, so will probably end up getting one from the Education store.

Can't wait - just two more paydays until I order it.

GinKop · « **Reply #226 on:** March 27, 2007, 12:04:54 pm »

Quote from: Mudface_ on March 27, 2007, 12:02:48 pm

That's a Core Duo though, not a Core 2 Duo.

There are a few Core 2 Duo's on the refurb store - that particular one was the one Nidge bought.

nidgemo · « **Reply #227 on:** March 27, 2007, 12:07:56 pm »

Quote from: GinKop on March 27, 2007, 12:04:02 pm

There are some great offers there. I'm going to for 2GB of Ram, so will probably end up getting one from the Education store.

Can't wait - just two more paydays until I order it.

You don't get the education discount through the refurb store AFIK though.

But genuinely, the machines from refurb are either new, or demo models. I've bought 2 ipods, a mac book and an imac from them recently, and all have appeared brand new, and just been reboxed.

The macbooks with over 1/3 off are outstanding value.

You still get the complete full warranty with them as well.

iSmiff · « **Reply #228 on:** March 27, 2007, 12:13:24 pm »

http://www.vodafone.ie/business/emailsolutions/pc/3gbroadband/index.jsp?site=sme&bannerdesc=bus_3gbroadband_050307

oooooh its back on

GinKop · « **Reply #229 on:** March 27, 2007, 12:13:40 pm »

Quote from: nidgemo 3.11 on March 27, 2007, 12:07:56 pm

You don't get the education discount through the refurb store AFIK though.

But genuinely, the machines from refurb are either new, or demo models. I've bought 2 ipods, a mac book and an imac from them recently, and all have appeared brand new, and just been reboxed.

The macbooks with over 1/3 off are outstanding value.

You still get the complete full warranty with them as well.

You're right, you don't get the education discount through the refurb store. It is one or the other. But because I want 2gb of RAM, and none of the refurb's come with that, I will have to go through the education store.

The education discounts are pretty good too - if at uni, you can save about £140 on a macbook, with 2ghz Core 2 Duo and 2gb of ram then the rest as standard.

nidgemo · « **Reply #230 on:** March 27, 2007, 12:16:50 pm »

Quote from: GinKop on March 27, 2007, 12:13:40 pm

You're right, you don't get the education discount through the refurb store. It is one or the other. But because I want 2gb of RAM, and none of the refurb's come with that, I will have to go through the education store.

The education discounts are pretty good too - if at uni, you can save about £140 on a macbook, with 2ghz Core 2 Duo and 2gb of ram then the rest as standard.

Fuck that. Get the bigger discount on the refurb and fit some crucial ram yourself.

GinKop · « **Reply #231 on:** March 27, 2007, 12:19:11 pm »

Quote from: nidgemo 3.11 on March 27, 2007, 12:16:50 pm

Fuck that. Get the bigger discount on the refurb and fit some crucial ram yourself.

For a tech spastic like me, isn't fitting ram to a laptop difficult? And how much would the 1gb of ram set me back? Could be worth it if the saving on the refurb + 1gb ram is less then the education discount.

nidgemo · « **Reply #232 on:** March 27, 2007, 12:56:38 pm »

Quote from: GinKop on March 27, 2007, 12:19:11 pm

For a tech spastic like me, isn't fitting ram to a laptop difficult? And how much would the 1gb of ram set me back? Could be worth it if the saving on the refurb + 1gb ram is less then the education discount.

2GB kit, £86

http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/listparts.aspx?model=MacBook+2%2E0GHz+Intel+Core+2+Duo+%2813%2Dinch+Black%29

so easy to fit, smiff could do it...

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=303721

iSmiff · « **Reply #233 on:** March 27, 2007, 12:59:05 pm »

how very dare you, i am a techno wiz at computer building related tomfoolery

ElSheak · « **Reply #234 on:** March 27, 2007, 01:07:46 pm »

Quote from: Ben S on March 15, 2007, 02:11:14 pm

Surely you don't need to ask, apples do everything for you.

Best question ever, in your face mac users.

It's all about learning surely, When you first start using Windows, you learn that by going to Start, presents the option to Turn Off / Shut Down. Once you have learnt to do this, then thats it. Its the same with Macs, only your replace the Start with the Apple logo top left. Once you learn to do this, then thats it as well.

Only difference is that Windows (without logic) requires you to go to a menu called Start. Well lets treat everyone as a basic human model, that intelligence and working IT skills are built upon. If I sat my Nan down to use either Machine, she still wouldn't know that you had to go to the Apple logo if I asked her to turn the machine off. But With Windows you have to go to Start. Helpful that, I want to turn off the machine, but I have to go to Start. Surely that would be confusing. Start.....but I want to turn off..... Wouldn't Start instantly put you off going to access that menu in the first place? I dunno, maybe.....

My point is that Start on Windows does no way imply that that is the best way to navigate to an option to turn off the machine. In fact it is more of a deterant.

IF Windows had a button that said Off, like Start, but on the opposite side of the Windows toolbar then yes, that would make it far superior to OSX in terms of navigation. But knowing Microsoft, it would require that you install some ancient HP LaserJet 4040 from 1991 that came with a non existant CD in your start up pack, before you can do so, before cra-_S__SSSS-**H@??øHH¬hhinggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg [Dumping Physical Drive: C....]

iSmiff · « **Reply #235 on:** March 27, 2007, 01:12:18 pm »

Quote from: ElSheak on March 27, 2007, 01:07:46 pm

But knowing Microsoft, it would require that you install some ancient HP LaserJet 4040 from 1991 that came with a non existant CD in your start up pack, before you can do so, before cra-_S__SSSS-**H@??øHH¬hhinggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg [Dumping Physical Drive: C....]

i didnt think it possible, someone with even less of a clue than nidgemo

Mudface_ · « **Reply #236 on:** March 27, 2007, 01:17:12 pm »

What an utterly bizarre post.

bradigor · « **Reply #237 on:** March 27, 2007, 01:18:32 pm »

Quote from: Mudface_ on March 27, 2007, 01:17:12 pm

What an utterly bizarre post.

Even I thought that

iSmiff · « **Reply #238 on:** March 27, 2007, 01:22:40 pm »

theres a reason why they dont make turning off the pc that straight forward as just clicking an off button

ElSheak · « **Reply #239 on:** March 27, 2007, 01:26:07 pm »

Quote from: Smiff on March 27, 2007, 01:12:18 pm

i didnt think it possible, someone with even less of a clue than nidgemo

Yes having worked professionally with both machines for years, I am completely cluesless. Sorry, I'll go dig out my RAWK IT Award of Excellence 2005.... and my Windows tinted specs (large ones, with bottle bottom lenses).

See Bens post on the 1st page as to the ref' for my rant!