Author Topic: Roberto Firmino (Read 2011561 times)

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #9080 on:** February 24, 2019, 09:01:11 pm »

Quote from: Yorkykopite on February 24, 2019, 05:56:48 pm

All players who are substituted leave on crutches. It's when they're in a hearse you need to worry.

Even then....

Unless they play for City of course.

farawayred · « **Reply #9081 on:** February 25, 2019, 08:58:03 am »

Quote from: deFacto on February 24, 2019, 05:24:44 pm

If he's out then Salah needs to play central and Shaqiri needs to play wide.

I think Shaq is quite efficient in a No10 role and somewhat deficient out wide. I’d prefer to see Mane on the right, Keira on the left and Shaq in no 10. Be could be devastating there. I think why we haven’t used him like that is because we have Bobby and he’s even better

him_15 · « **Reply #9082 on:** February 25, 2019, 08:59:17 am »

Any latest news regarding to Bobby's injury?

PaulKS · « **Reply #9083 on:** February 25, 2019, 09:07:42 am »

Sorry if this has already been said but he was 'playing on' with the injury for a bit and wanting the ball, so that gives me hope that it is not too serious

Fingers crossed anyway

PaulKS · « **Reply #9084 on:** February 25, 2019, 09:08:55 am »

Quote from: Caligula? on February 24, 2019, 05:22:44 pm

Sturridge and Origi are completely useless

Hahaha totally agree

Sad to see Sturridge's decline, as he was once such a good player. He looks absolutely clueless, I actually think Origi is more useful

deano2727 · « **Reply #9085 on:** February 25, 2019, 01:22:08 pm »

We could really do with him being fit for Wednesday. I have to say, neither of our other options fill me with much hope. I'd be more inclined to start Shaqiri out wide and play Salah centrally, rather than play Origi or Sturridge. Theyve barely scored all season (despite a couple of important goals).

Bergersrightwingviews · « **Reply #9086 on:** February 25, 2019, 03:40:44 pm »

Quote from: farawayred on February 25, 2019, 08:58:03 am

I think Shaq is quite efficient in a No10 role and somewhat deficient out wide. I’d prefer to see Mane on the right, Keira on the left and Shaq in no 10. Be could be devastating there. I think why we haven’t used him like that is because we have Bobby and he’s even better

Hmmm. I had imagined Keita and Shaq the other way round, but perhaps your suggestion is the better one given Shaqiri is not the quickest.

Number 7 · « **Reply #9087 on:** February 25, 2019, 03:52:05 pm »

There will be no update on the injury by the club today apparently.

deFacto please, you bastards · « **Reply #9088 on:** February 25, 2019, 04:27:05 pm »

He's having a scan on his ankle today. Will probably know tomorrow during Klopp's presser. It's unlikely he will play on Wednesday

Zizou · « **Reply #9089 on:** February 25, 2019, 05:44:18 pm »

Send him to Malaga for his recovery. A bit of warm weather will make all the difference.

exiledintheUSA · « **Reply #9090 on:** February 25, 2019, 05:46:55 pm »

Wonder if Ben Woodburn would be back in the squad if Bobby is out for a prolonged period.....

Sharado · « **Reply #9091 on:** February 25, 2019, 05:50:22 pm »

Quote from: exiledintheUSA on February 25, 2019, 05:46:55 pm

Wonder if Ben Woodburn would be back in the squad if Bobby is out for a prolonged period.....

Fucking hell.

Dan6times · « **Reply #9092 on:** February 25, 2019, 05:56:30 pm »

Quote from: deFacto on February 25, 2019, 04:27:05 pm

He's having a scan on his ankle today. Will probably know tomorrow during Klopp's presser. It's unlikely he will play on Wednesday

Ankles are cu*ts even if its not ligament damage and just bruising around the tissue its 3-4 weeks at least

nash_av · « **Reply #9093 on:** February 25, 2019, 06:04:22 pm »

Quote from: Zizou on February 25, 2019, 05:44:18 pm

Send him to Malaga for his recovery. A bit of warm weather will make all the difference.

Warm weather is the Shit word for us this year

Lofty Ambitions · « **Reply #9094 on:** February 25, 2019, 06:21:45 pm »

Quote from: nash_av on February 25, 2019, 06:04:22 pm

Warm weather is the Shit word for us this year

Is right. Send him to chryotherapy instead!

Number 7 · « **Reply #9095 on:** February 25, 2019, 06:50:31 pm »

Quote from: Dan5times on February 25, 2019, 05:56:30 pm

Ankles are cu*ts even if its not ligament damage and just bruising around the tissue its 3-4 weeks at least

I rolled my ankle in December playing in a friendly game (similar to how Bobby rolled his from the pictures), but continued playing basically because I couldn’t sit the rest of the game out. It still hurts a little bit today, almost 2 months after. I would have made it worse playing again a few days or even weeks after. It really depends on the type of strain and severity. Hopefully it’s not too bad, but I’d be surprised if it wasn’t 2-3 weeks at a minimum.

RedG13 · « **Reply #9096 on:** February 25, 2019, 10:27:52 pm »

Quote from: farawayred on February 25, 2019, 08:58:03 am

I think Shaq is quite efficient in a No10 role and somewhat deficient out wide. I’d prefer to see Mane on the right, Keira on the left and Shaq in no 10. Be could be devastating there. I think why we haven’t used him like that is because we have Bobby and he’s even better

I dont think Klopp trusts Shaqiri centrally yet. He has trust Keita centrally as the 8 vs Bouremouth and Bayern.
Would likely be Keita next to Fabinho deeper. Gini behind Salah and played more centrally, Sahqiri on the right and Mane on the left.

deFacto please, you bastards · « **Reply #9097 on:** February 25, 2019, 10:31:28 pm »

Shaqiri playing as a 10 is not the same as playing as an 8, its a role he is very familiar with considering thats where he operates for his national side. I believe his skillset is better centrally behind the centerforward, it opens things up for him shooting wise and passing wise. Imo he is far more effective when he takes central positions then when he is out wide.

smurfinaus · « **Reply #9098 on:** February 25, 2019, 11:01:38 pm »

We knew this may have happened at some point during the season... I know its hard to find a Firminho lite but really needs to be addressed at some point... He is so important to how we play

RedG13 · « **Reply #9099 on:** February 25, 2019, 11:09:26 pm »

Quote from: deFacto on February 25, 2019, 10:31:28 pm

Shaqiri playing as a 10 is not the same as playing as an 8, its a role he is very familiar with considering thats where he operates for his national side. I believe his skillset is better centrally behind the centerforward, it opens things up for him shooting wise and passing wise. Imo he is far more effective when he takes central positions then when he is out wide.

He would not play as an 8 for us anyway, he can play the 10, however I remember Klopp saying he wasnt where he wanted him for defending Half-spaces at some time recently. I know that he was brought off at Southampton not sure if Klopp trust him centrally yet tactically, Gini he would
Shaqiri has good pressing number irc so would make sense to be able to do the Firmino role.

deFacto please, you bastards · « **Reply #9100 on:** February 26, 2019, 01:46:44 am »

Quote from: RedG13 on February 25, 2019, 11:09:26 pm

He would not play as an 8 for us anyway, he can play the 10, however I remember Klopp saying he wasnt where he wanted him for defending Half-spaces at some time recently. I know that he was brought off at Southampton not sure if Klopp trust him centrally yet tactically, Gini he would
Shaqiri has good pressing number irc so would make sense to be able to do the Firmino role.

That's because against Soton he played as an 8 and not as a 10.

Telegraph reporting that Firmino is also a doubt for the weekend

harleydanger · « **Reply #9101 on:** February 26, 2019, 02:21:06 am »

Quote from: Zizou on February 25, 2019, 05:44:18 pm

Send him to Malaga for his recovery. A bit of warm weather will make all the difference.

I think Carol and Caroline need to dig down the back of the freezer and get the horse placenta out.

harleydanger · « **Reply #9102 on:** February 26, 2019, 02:22:23 am »

Quote from: deFacto on February 25, 2019, 10:31:28 pm

Shaqiri playing as a 10 is not the same as playing as an 8, its a role he is very familiar with considering thats where he operates for his national side. I believe his skillset is better centrally behind the centerforward, it opens things up for him shooting wise and passing wise. Imo he is far more effective when he takes central positions then when he is out wide.

Which begs the question why he hasn’t been played there? I’m sure the coaching staff are well aware of his history.

deFacto please, you bastards · « **Reply #9103 on:** February 26, 2019, 02:26:20 am »

Quote from: harleydanger on February 26, 2019, 02:22:23 am

Which begs the question why he hasn’t been played there? I’m sure the coaching staff are well aware of his history.

Because Firmino occupies that space on the pitch for us in our system and he does it exceptionally well. You can't have two players playing the same role in the same spot in the pitch. They'd be getting in each other's way.

That's why you've seen Shaqiri operate on the right and the one time he played midfield he played as an 8 and was subbed at half-time. Now that Firmino isn't playing in that part of the pitch. Shaqiri can do some of the job there. He can't press as well as Firmino for instance but its not a foreign role to him.

RedG13 · « **Reply #9104 on:** February 26, 2019, 02:42:01 am »

Quote from: deFacto on February 26, 2019, 01:46:44 am

That's because against Soton he played as an 8 and not as a 10.

Telegraph reporting that Firmino is also a doubt for the weekend

Double check the heat map on that game bc he wasnt the 8. it was a very clear 4231 with hendo and gini deeper and Shaqiri central mane on the right and firmino on the left. Mane is the most central on the heat map as he swapped side at halftime

harleydanger · « **Reply #9105 on:** February 26, 2019, 02:52:31 am »

Quote from: deFacto on February 26, 2019, 02:26:20 am

Because Firmino occupies that space on the pitch for us in our system and he does it exceptionally well. You can't have two players playing the same role in the same spot in the pitch. They'd be getting in each other's way.

That's why you've seen Shaqiri operate on the right and the one time he played midfield he played as an 8 and was subbed at half-time. Now that Firmino isn't playing in that part of the pitch. Shaqiri can do some of the job there. He can't press as well as Firmino for instance but its not a foreign role to him.

I meant when Bobby hasn't played, or subbed off

mrantarctica · « **Reply #9106 on:** February 26, 2019, 05:22:52 am »

based on the footage of his ankle, id say its a lateral ankle ligament sprain. usually talking a good 2-4 weeks depending on severity. for some lads the ankle looks pretty much normal after 4 or 5 days but re-injury is pretty common. depending on how bad it is, usually 1-2 weeks of rehabilitation and ensuring good strength, good agility, ability to sprint and turn and not have much in the way of pain or reaction after the sessions. Should be ok by the time our next Bayern game comes around though, but probably question marks for games leading up to that.

Ycuzz · « **Reply #9107 on:** February 26, 2019, 08:01:11 am »

Quote from: Lofty Ambitions on February 25, 2019, 06:21:45 pm

Is right. Send him to chryotherapy instead!

Dip him in horse placenta.

Dr. Beaker · « **Reply #9108 on:** February 26, 2019, 09:34:26 am »

Quote from: Ycuzz on February 26, 2019, 08:01:11 am

Dip him in horse placenta.

The fella who gave him the teeth will probably have some.

kaesarsosei · « **Reply #9109 on:** February 26, 2019, 09:57:48 am »

I'm optimistic he will be back for the Derby. When he came off he looked completely fine, no limp and was moving quicker than Sturridge.

Wouldn't be surprised if Rashford misses more time than Firmino.

latortuga · « **Reply #9110 on:** February 26, 2019, 10:24:29 am »

Any chance Fabinho's played as a 10 for Brazil?

deFacto please, you bastards · « **Reply #9111 on:** February 26, 2019, 01:31:21 pm »

Klopp says Firmino possibly could play tomorrow, but will more than likely play for sure on Sunday Not serious

tubby · « **Reply #9112 on:** February 26, 2019, 01:36:17 pm »

Quote from: deFacto on February 26, 2019, 01:31:21 pm

Klopp says Firmino possibly could play tomorrow, but will more than likely play for sure on Sunday Not serious

That's really good news, think we can afford for him to miss Watford but don't want him missing for the derby.

Andy82lfc · « **Reply #9113 on:** February 26, 2019, 01:38:24 pm »

Quote from: deFacto on February 26, 2019, 01:31:21 pm

Klopp says Firmino possibly could play tomorrow, but will more than likely play for sure on Sunday Not serious

Great news

SinceSixtyFive · « **Reply #9114 on:** February 26, 2019, 01:50:38 pm »

Quote from: latortuga on February 26, 2019, 10:24:29 am

Any chance Fabinho's played as a 10 for Brazil?

Of course he has! Whats the matter with you?

exCite · « **Reply #9115 on:** February 26, 2019, 01:52:26 pm »

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/339401-roberto-firmino-injury-confirmed-liverpool

Petadroli · « **Reply #9116 on:** February 26, 2019, 01:56:05 pm »

Quote from: exCite on February 26, 2019, 01:52:26 pm

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/339401-roberto-firmino-injury-confirmed-liverpool

Nice

him_15 · « **Reply #9117 on:** February 26, 2019, 03:28:35 pm »

Great news!

redgriffin73 · « **Reply #9118 on:** February 26, 2019, 03:31:00 pm »

Bobby's made of tough stuff like Suarez was.

Yorkykopite · « **Reply #9119 on:** February 26, 2019, 03:33:11 pm »

That’s a nice little bit of news for us and a shitty little piece of news for Man City.