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Re: Arise Sir King Kenny *
« Reply #200 on: June 9, 2018, 10:28:20 am »
Get in there!

Sir Kenny: Thanks for all you've done and to cap it off with the 2012 League Cup was a fitting end to a stunning active career in the game that extended beyond the lawns of the football pitches.

Sir King sounds good to me :)
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Re: Re: Arise Sir King Kenny *
« Reply #201 on: June 9, 2018, 10:30:25 am »
Dry your tears. If Kenny is happy, be happy for him.

No tears, just a sense of disappointment – I’ve no other way of expressing it.
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Re: Re: Arise Sir King Kenny *
« Reply #202 on: June 9, 2018, 10:33:11 am »
No tears, just a sense of disappointment – I’ve no other way of expressing it.

Yep, someone being recognised for services and work to the people of a city and beyond after a disaster and charitable work for people who have suffered with cancer.

What a massive disappointment.
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Re: Re: Arise Sir King Kenny *
« Reply #203 on: June 9, 2018, 10:34:25 am »
No tears, just a sense of disappointment – I’ve no other way of expressing it.

Mate, I feel ya, I’ve already expressed it too, but as others have pointed out, he’s accepted it and it’s great that’s he’s got some of the recognition he deserves. Maybe he did turn it down while we didn’t have justice, and now he feels it’s ok to accept.
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Re: Arise Sir King Kenny *
« Reply #204 on: June 9, 2018, 10:43:25 am »
Congrats #SirKenny well deserved

I hope you get banned for that abomination of a post.

As for the knighthood, I'd have preferred him to take a massive shite on it and throw it in Lizzie's face, but it's Kenny's decision.
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Re: Arise Sir King Kenny *
« Reply #205 on: June 9, 2018, 10:47:17 am »
I hope you get banned for that abomination of a post.

As for the knighthood, I'd have preferred him to take a massive shite on it and throw it in Lizzie's face, but it's Kenny's decision.

I think you’ve quoted the wrong post...
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Re: Re: Arise Sir King Kenny *
« Reply #206 on: June 9, 2018, 10:48:20 am »
Up to KK, not my sort of thing, but if it makes him happy then I'm pleased for him and his family.

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Re: Arise Sir King Kenny *
« Reply #207 on: June 9, 2018, 10:50:05 am »
It's a very tough one for anyone who is in essence opposed to the whole concept of the honours system. That said, there's been far too many "honours" condescendingly bestowed on some arseholes who've never given a thought to the plight of the millions far less fortunate in life than they and wouldn't know either a good-hearted human being or a true hero if they fell over one.

If the "Establishment" can determine that an out and out arsehole like Sugar deserved a Lordship, then for his real care and his never-flinching devotion to the pursuit of ultimate justice for the 96 dead and for the bereaved and suffering families, then Kenneth Mathieson Dalglish is more than worthy.

Like many have said, his recognition as sitting atop the pile has long since been accorded to him by the people who really matter - the people of Liverpool.
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Re: Arise Sir King Kenny *
« Reply #208 on: June 9, 2018, 10:59:12 am »
Fantastic news and I am very happy for him and his family   :)

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Re: Arise Sir King Kenny *
« Reply #209 on: June 9, 2018, 11:08:30 am »
Fantastic news and I am very happy for him and his family   :)

His daughter is well chuffed. This is what makes me happy. Kenny is humbled by it, and he’s worth more than a knighthood. At least this goes a little way to show him how much he’s loved.
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Re: Arise Sir King Kenny *
« Reply #210 on: June 9, 2018, 11:28:32 am »
Huge congratulations to Sir Kenny.

As others have already said, it's about 25 years too late, but better late than never, eh?

As a Republican myself, I am STILL made up for him - This for me is simply the establishment giving him the credit and respect that we have always known was due to him.

It seems so rare that a truly deserving individual is recognised in this way (which is one of the reasons for my republicanism), but I don't think that anyone would deny that Kenny and Marina deserve it (again, for me, Marina deserves at least 50% of everything outside of Kenny's footballing achievements).
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« Reply #211 on: June 9, 2018, 11:32:39 am »
Brilliant. Nice to see him get the recognition and respect he deserves.
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Re: Re: Arise Sir King Kenny *
« Reply #212 on: June 9, 2018, 11:35:09 am »
Don't really like the Honours system but if Kenny and his family are happy with the knighthood then I am happy for them.
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Re: Arise Sir King Kenny *
« Reply #213 on: June 9, 2018, 11:44:28 am »


You can’t Knight a King

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Re: Re: Arise Sir King Kenny *
« Reply #214 on: June 9, 2018, 11:44:50 am »
Delighted for him. Long overdue, but better late than never and if it makes Kenny and his family happy then we should all be happy for him.
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Re: Re: Arise Sir King Kenny *
« Reply #215 on: June 9, 2018, 11:46:46 am »
Yep, someone being recognised for services and work to the people of a city and beyond after a disaster and charitable work for people who have suffered with cancer.

What a massive disappointment.

Don’t be silly.

There is nothing anyone on this earth can bestow upon Kenny Dalglish that will ever do that man justice. Nothing. But we, as scousers, certainly hold him in as high regard as any man who has ever lived and no outdated, contrived token from a rotten establishment can ever befit him – that man means as much to me as my own father and I say that with absolute sincerity. I genuinely love the man. He represents so much more than football or my team or my city – for crying out loud he represents the epitome of what I aspired to be, what I’d want my kids to be – a human being bursting with the love and compassion and humility and sheer bright beautiful light and gifts that make a mere mortal such as myself feel nothing but complete love and unending admiration. 

What he has done, what he means and the lives he has touched, the people he has helped, I guarantee you will outstrip anyone who has ever accepted this meaningless title. And yet, those on high who bestow it have somehow only just become aware of Kenny Dalglish. I despise them and everything they stand for.

But, Kenny, my idol, my captain, my King - any disappointment lies within me and not with you because I know you accept this with the love and grace and humility in the same way you have lead your entire life. You are a better man then I could ever be in a thousand lifetimes and this Knighthood is merely an indicator to the rest of the world, informing them of something we have known for forty years and more – that you are a giant amongst men.


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Re: Re: Arise Sir King Kenny *
« Reply #216 on: June 9, 2018, 11:48:09 am »
Well deserved Sir!

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Re: Re: Arise Sir King Kenny *
« Reply #217 on: June 9, 2018, 11:50:51 am »
Don’t be silly.

There is nothing anyone on this earth can bestow upon Kenny Dalglish that will ever do that man justice. Nothing. But we, as scousers, certainly hold him in as high regard as any man who has ever lived and no outdated, contrived token from a rotten establishment can ever befit him – that man means as much to me as my own father and I say that with absolute sincerity. I genuinely love the man. He represents so much more than football or my team or my city – for crying out loud he represents the epitome of what I aspired to be, what I’d want my kids to be – a human being bursting with the love and compassion and humility and sheer bright beautiful light and gifts that make a mere mortal such as myself feel nothing but complete love and unending admiration. 

What he has done, what he means and the lives he has touched, the people he has helped, I guarantee you will outstrip anyone who has ever accepted this meaningless title. And yet, those on high who bestow it have somehow only just become aware of Kenny Dalglish. I despise them and everything they stand for.

But, Kenny, my idol, my captain, my King - any disappointment lies within me and not with you because I know you accept this with the love and grace and humility in the same way you have lead your entire life. You are a better man then I could ever be in a thousand lifetimes and this Knighthood is merely an indicator to the rest of the world, informing them of something we have known for forty years and more – that you are a giant amongst men.

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« Reply #218 on: June 9, 2018, 12:20:33 pm »
Well deserved national and world-wide recognition.
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« Reply #219 on: June 9, 2018, 12:29:54 pm »
Genuinely love him. Class personified, well in Sir Kenny.

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Re: Re: Arise Sir King Kenny *
« Reply #220 on: June 9, 2018, 12:29:57 pm »
Don’t be silly.

There is nothing anyone on this earth can bestow upon Kenny Dalglish that will ever do that man justice. Nothing. But we, as scousers, certainly hold him in as high regard as any man who has ever lived and no outdated, contrived token from a rotten establishment can ever befit him – that man means as much to me as my own father and I say that with absolute sincerity. I genuinely love the man. He represents so much more than football or my team or my city – for crying out loud he represents the epitome of what I aspired to be, what I’d want my kids to be – a human being bursting with the love and compassion and humility and sheer bright beautiful light and gifts that make a mere mortal such as myself feel nothing but complete love and unending admiration. 

What he has done, what he means and the lives he has touched, the people he has helped, I guarantee you will outstrip anyone who has ever accepted this meaningless title. And yet, those on high who bestow it have somehow only just become aware of Kenny Dalglish. I despise them and everything they stand for.

But, Kenny, my idol, my captain, my King - any disappointment lies within me and not with you because I know you accept this with the love and grace and humility in the same way you have lead your entire life. You are a better man then I could ever be in a thousand lifetimes and this Knighthood is merely an indicator to the rest of the world, informing them of something we have known for forty years and more – that you are a giant amongst men.




Good post.


You should of just posted that in the first place, ye nugget.
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Re: Arise Sir King Kenny *
« Reply #221 on: June 9, 2018, 12:35:50 pm »
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Re: Re: Arise Sir King Kenny *
« Reply #222 on: June 9, 2018, 02:41:15 pm »
Don’t be silly.

There is nothing anyone on this earth can bestow upon Kenny Dalglish that will ever do that man justice. Nothing. But we, as scousers, certainly hold him in as high regard as any man who has ever lived and no outdated, contrived token from a rotten establishment can ever befit him – that man means as much to me as my own father and I say that with absolute sincerity. I genuinely love the man. He represents so much more than football or my team or my city – for crying out loud he represents the epitome of what I aspired to be, what I’d want my kids to be – a human being bursting with the love and compassion and humility and sheer bright beautiful light and gifts that make a mere mortal such as myself feel nothing but complete love and unending admiration. 

What he has done, what he means and the lives he has touched, the people he has helped, I guarantee you will outstrip anyone who has ever accepted this meaningless title. And yet, those on high who bestow it have somehow only just become aware of Kenny Dalglish. I despise them and everything they stand for.

But, Kenny, my idol, my captain, my King - any disappointment lies within me and not with you because I know you accept this with the love and grace and humility in the same way you have lead your entire life. You are a better man then I could ever be in a thousand lifetimes and this Knighthood is merely an indicator to the rest of the world, informing them of something we have known for forty years and more – that you are a giant amongst men.
Top post that mate, says exactly how I feel about it.

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Re: Re: Arise Sir King Kenny *
« Reply #223 on: June 9, 2018, 03:21:01 pm »
American here, can you knight a King?

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« Reply #224 on: June 9, 2018, 04:52:09 pm »
A great player, an even greater man – why Kenny Dalglish deserves his knighthood

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Kenny Dalglish was sitting in the small room leading to his study at his neat home in Southport, struggling to talk about Hillsborough. Too personal, too soon. Even as we spoke in 1996, he couldn’t articulate the individual and communal grief. He wouldn’t think about the toll the personal disaster wrought, leading him to drink more, suffer from stress-related blotches on his body and eventually leave Liverpool to save his physical and mental health. Dalglish thought only of the Hillsborough families.

He thought only of those parents who wished beloved offspring well as they set off on a sunlit day towards Sheffield on April 15, 1989, for an FA Cup semi-final against Nottingham Forest at Hillsborough, a famous old English ground turned into death-trap for 96 innocents and countless others injured by the authorities’ shameful neglect.

He thought briefly of his own momentary tremor of paternal fear that his son, Paul, had gone through the Leppings Lane End with a friend but carried on, through the paddocks where so many Liverpool fans were later crushed. Paul was safe. But it is Dalglish’s response to Hillsborough, immediately comforting fans and families, and his eternal compassion that defines him as a great man, an altruistic servant to club and community. Nobody would walk alone with Dalglish around. He was there for them, whatever the cost to his mind and body.


And so the myriad plaudits for Dalglish’s deserved knighthood read, “He selflessly made himself available to the families of the bereaved, attending most of the funerals, organising hospital visits, and attending annual memorial services held at Anfield. He has been a steadfast supporter of the families in their quest for justice and throughout the Hillsborough Inquiry.” My God, Kenny Dalglish did more than that. He fought for them. He took on the FA, Fleet Street and the Establishment. Dalglish did the right thing.

He did it to support the parents, sensing as a family man how wretchedly impossible it must be to bury your own. It was why Dalglish found it so difficult to open up when we came to the Hillsborough part of the first book that I helped him write. I delayed chronicling this deeply emotional passage of his life to the last moment, hoping to have built up enough trust by then. Dalglish just sat there, fidgeting, deflecting.

Then Marina glided through, handing her husband a glass of white wine, reminding Kenny quite forcibly of all the countless letters from Hillsborough families in boxes under their bed upstairs, profusely thanking him for being there for them, for showing support. Marina told Kenny he owed it to the families to deliver the truth. And so it began.

And this is why Dalglish deserves this knighthood. Not for his myriad feats as a sublime, intelligent, prolific forward for Celtic, Liverpool — “and could he play!” — and Scotland. Anyone of sound mind would place him alongside Sir Bobby Charlton, George Best, Bobby Moore and John Charles in the revered firmament of greatest British players of all time. Nor for his managerial accomplishments of winning the English title with two teams (Liverpool and Blackburn Rovers). No. King Kenny should be Sir Kenny for his stature as a man, for his principles, for being strong for his community when most needed. For doing the right thing.

And so, after a long pause, watching Marina serenely vacate the room, Kenny spoke. And as the tape silently turned, he began: “I’ll never, never forget 15 April, 1989.” He paused again. This was huge, from the bottom of his heart. “I cannot even think of the name Hillsborough, cannot even say the word, without so many distressing memories flooding back.”

And then it flowed, a dam breached, the torrent spilling into the tape, as Dalglish spoke with barely contained anger of the “terrible mistakes of the authorities, both police and football, [that] ended with 96 of our supporters dead”. The chapter ran to 10,000 words, recorded largely verbatim. As a ghost-writer, there felt no need to enhance his words, simply transcribe and spread them across the page, the pain in print.


For all his phenomenal achievements, and I was in the Shed with Chelsea mates in 1986 when Dalglish scored a sumptuous volley to guide Liverpool towards the ‘double’, it is Hillsborough that defines Dalglish. When a club required a beacon, a source of comfort and hope, Dalglish stepped up for Liverpool. They’ll never walk alone. He was there for them. He supported the supporters.

At one point, Kenny and Marina went to so many funerals they needed a police escort. When they returned to Southport, slumping drained on the sofa, bereft and speechless at the loss suffered by other parents, they found themselves singing Abide With Me. They’d heard it so often at funerals. They went as a family to Anfield, laying floral tributes on that famous grass fast disappearing under a cloth of wreaths.

One morning, at a deserted Anfield, Kenny tied one of his children’s teddy bears around a goalpost. When a club-appointed psychologist knocked on his door, asking whether he needed help, Dalglish politely turned him away. He was doing the right thing, solely concentrating on the grief-stricken. He helped organise players to go to funerals to “read from the scriptures”.

He deserves this knighthood. As a player he did the right thing, linking and scoring. As a man and as a manager, he did the right thing at Hillsborough. When we talked, he was still numb. Remember, this was 1996. Dalglish knew the Establishment strived to cover up calamitous police mistakes. He knew parts of the media were culpable and complicit. Dalglish knew the real truth.

An introverted, slightly chippy but driven kid from Glasgow, Dalglish always questioned the London Establishment, wondering why the great Bob Paisley was never knighted, suspecting arrogance in Whitehall, and loathing elements of Fleet Street, particularly Kelvin MacKenzie, the contemptuous editor of The Sunwho ran that poisonous, inaccurate and hugely damaging front-page headline of “The Truth” about Liverpool fans’ behaviour at Hillsborough. Dalglish knew right from wrong, knew that Liverpool fans were being vilified unduly.

At a time under Margaret Thatcher when this country swelled its wallets and lost its moral compass, Dalglish knew his north, south, east and west.



Even now, Westminster, Whitehall and the Hampstead intellectual and media elite lack a connection with the nation that Dalglish has, lack his family values.

To understand Dalglish is to understand the power of family. His footballing family is important, whether Celtic, Liverpool, Blackburn or Scotland, and he was the king of dressing room repartee, but it is the flesh and blood, his wife and four children that shape Kenny.

He’d be lost without Marina, his rock. His four children, Paul, Kelly, Lauren and Lynsey, are all different characters, all real characters, and are his world. I’ve been in his kitchen in Southport when Paul’s car has broken down in Texas, and Kenny has co-ordinated recovery operations from 5,000 miles away. Sir Kenny cares.


‘I thought it was the taxman’
Kenny Dalglish accepted his knighthood in the Queen’s birthday honours yesterday with a typical mix of humility and humour by joking that, when the citation dropped through his letter box, he thought it was a tax bill. He dedicated the honour to his family and those involved in his career, but did admit that it “doesn’t feel right” (Paul Joyce writes).

He said: “I opened it and I saw a wee bit of the crown and I thought, ‘We better have a look at this.’ I thought it was the taxman.”

The 67-year-old was known as “King Kenny” during his playing career with Liverpool and Celtic, but now has the full title of Sir Kenneth Mathieson Dalglish. Recognition has been bestowed not simply for a glittering career as a player and a manager but for the support he, and his family, offered in the aftermath of the Hillsborough disaster in 1989 and for his charity work. He and his wife, Marina, have raised more than £10 million.

“Obviously it takes everything you have done in your life into consideration,” Dalglish said. “Football was part of it and a very important part of it. So is the charity that we have in Marina’s name and obviously Hillsborough must have been part of it as well. Someone in their wisdom has thought it was deserving of some recognition. I am hugely proud to have accepted the accolade. It is hugely humbling but also very gratifying.

“You start off in your life just hoping to be a footballer. You become a footballer and have a bit of success and that seems to give you a platform to go on to other things. We only set out to do the best we possibly could, even through all the other stuff. The charity or Hillsborough; it was to help people because somebody helped us.”

Dalglish was quick to credit the people who have influenced his life on a journey from being the son of an engineer in Glasgow to a knight of the realm.

“All I can say is that from my own point of view I am definitely no more deserving of an accolade like this than Jock Stein, Bill Shankly and Bob Paisley were,” he added. “I would like to dedicate this honour to them because without the standards that they set at Glasgow Celtic and Liverpool, individuals like myself would not have been able to thrive as much as we did.”
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« Reply #225 on: June 9, 2018, 05:01:30 pm »
Don't really like the Honours system but if Kenny and his family are happy with the knighthood then I am happy for them.
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Re: Arise Sir King Kenny *
« Reply #226 on: June 9, 2018, 05:08:22 pm »
Congratulations to a man who personifies the spirit of the club.

It's a pity some can't just accept the recognition he's getting without trotting out their views, right or wrong.

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Re: Re: Arise Sir King Kenny *
« Reply #227 on: June 9, 2018, 05:42:38 pm »
Wow! Absolutely brilliant news!

Arise, Sir!
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« Reply #228 on: June 9, 2018, 05:55:48 pm »
They must rename the stand again, I reckon.
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Re: Arise Sir King Kenny *
« Reply #229 on: June 9, 2018, 06:02:32 pm »
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Re: Arise Sir King Kenny *
« Reply #230 on: June 9, 2018, 06:21:04 pm »
To my mind Kenny Dalglish is the greatest club manager in the history of the game. Sure others have won more trophies but Kenny did something that transcends mere sport. He kept an iconic sporting institution together in its darkest hour. He consoled the city of Liverpool in one of its darkest hours. He put the welfare of families devastated by Hillsborough before his own welfare. He subsequently joined the families of those devastated by Hillsborough in their fight for justice. At every step of the way Kenny carried himself with his customary dignity and innate decency. His honor is well due and well deserved.

On the minor note of winning trophies as a club manager, Kenny aged 34, only went and made club managerial history in his first season winning the double. Considering giants of the game ie Shankly, Paisley and Fagan preceded him that was some feat.
As if that wasn’t enough he took a side from a town in Lancashire, Blackburn, and built a title winning side from scratch. Sure he was bankrolled, but that in itself does not guarantee success.

As if all of the above isn’t impressive enough he can look back on a playing career which sees him regarded as the greatest player in the history of Liverpool Football Club. I feel like I have just written a movie script!

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« Reply #231 on: June 9, 2018, 09:19:57 pm »
About fucking time he got the recognition he deserves.  Not that it was wanted or required.

A bit farcical that it took so long.

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« Reply #232 on: June 9, 2018, 09:24:03 pm »
About fucking time he got the recognition he deserves.  Not that it was wanted or required.

A bit farcical that it took so long.

Not really, we don't know why it took this long. I'm surprised Kenny even accepted it, but as the truth is now known, he might have felt more able to accept it.

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Re: Arise Sir King Kenny
« Reply #233 on: June 9, 2018, 09:47:31 pm »
I'm not eloquent enough to say what he means to me and I dare say many more beyond; but what this man has done for my club on and off the field, this city and it's people, is unwritable and unlivable considering the highs and the lows.

A king, a legend, a hero, in many's eye's, but a humble and polite man to those that know him best. His wife and his family must be truly proud and this is a reflection on all of them. 



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« Reply #234 on: June 10, 2018, 06:48:45 am »
Its long overdue.....finally i can say it. Sir Kenny (i still prefer King Kenny though  ;D)
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« Reply #235 on: November 16, 2018, 01:21:07 pm »
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« Reply #236 on: November 16, 2018, 01:30:40 pm »
Didn’t realise this was today. Just seen him on the news and he was his usual self-effacing, humble self. Him and his family looked very proud :)

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« Reply #237 on: November 16, 2018, 01:38:16 pm »
^ Agree.
Saw this interview and just to hear the sheer humility of the man, giving credit to his and Marina's parents for bringing them up to help people rather than harm them, brought a lump to my throat and a tear to my eye.

Compare him with the current crop of self -aggrandising politicians. There is no comparison.

Thank you Sir Kenny.

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« Reply #238 on: November 16, 2018, 01:39:50 pm »
Delighted for him. Honestly never thought this would happen

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« Reply #239 on: November 16, 2018, 01:56:19 pm »
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