Haven't been watching this match, but I've always been fairly certain of the fact that Newcastle are getting out of that group.
It could end in any order I feel, it's precisely what a group of death is, however that doesn't mean those four sides are amongst the best in the competition because they aren't really. The three sides Newcastle have got just aren't as good as people think they are. I expect Newcastle to give all three a good game at home but as seen by that 45 they'll struggle to get a shot on target away from home. The two games against Dortmund in particular are key IMO, they've got the worst defence in the group so they can put them under pressure.
I want Howe to stay in the job as long as possible because he'll never win them anything so I wouldn't even mind if they did go through, I'd prefer Dortmund to drop down to the Europa League if I'm being honest.
