Topic: UK GE and Local Elections, plus polls, and policy.

[PaulF]

You give him to much credit, it happened because he is an actual idiot.
A full blown bad fucking dickhead of an idiot
I can't overstate how much I hate the idiotic c*nt.

I think I agree with redbyrdz.  He's actually a canny media genius.

[cornishscouser92]

Although I don’t live in the SW anymore this is pretty significant, worst ever results for the Tories in Plymouth (Worse than 1995) they’ve only got 7 seats left. Basically Jonny Mercer is in huge trouble.

In my old neck of the woods looks like Lab are going to win the PCC election. Which means Cornwall which has 5 Tory mps currently - will probably have 3 Lab, 1 LD and 1 Con after the GE. The constituency which my parents still live in has never gone Labour but is predicted to do so, and looking at the results we have is likely.

If Labour are winning in the SW which is historically not a Labour area, they’re going to win a humongous majority.

[Yorkykopite]

You give him to much credit, it happened because he is an actual idiot.
A full blown bad fucking dickhead of an idiot
I can't overstate how much I hate the idiotic c*nt.

You don't have to John. We all know it.

The clown apparently fished into his bag and produced a letter with his name and address on it and asked if that cut the mustard. In other words he was flailing. I bet you it momentarily crossed his stupid mind to make a 'principled stand' against the requirement to produce I.D.

[jillcwhomever]

Or he did it as a publicity stunt, he's so vain it's exactly what he would do.

[cornishscouser92]

That Blackpool defeat is even worse the more you look at it.  The swing was 7% bigger than even the latest MRP polls. Polls which none of us really believed would come to fruition?
And that’s before you even start looking at the swing to deform as well.

The Britain elects (twitter) predictor had Lab to get 50% of the vote, so they've outperformed by 8%. Con were predicted for 30% and have underperformed by 12.5%. Their predictor had been bang on for all of the recent by elections.

Their overall predictor puts the Lab on 409 seats and the Tories on 151 seats. Looks more like the Yougov poll from the other day is absolutely bang on, basically as it stands they're struggling for the 100 seats let alone 150.

Nuneaton results today will give us another good indicator as to how big Labour's majority will be

[Lusty]

Can't believe people are still doing the whole 4D Chess thing with Boris FFS, the man is an idiot who regularly does idiotic things and you're all in here trying to decipher his genius strategy

[Yorkykopite]

Although I don’t live in the SW anymore this is pretty significant, worst ever results for the Tories in Plymouth (Worse than 1995) they’ve only got 7 seats left. Basically Jonny Mercer is in huge trouble.

In my old neck of the woods looks like Lab are going to win the PCC election. Which means Cornwall which has 5 Tory mps currently - will probably have 3 Lab, 1 LD and 1 Con. The constituency which my parents still live in has never gone Labour but is predicted to do so, and looking at the results we have is likely.

If Labour are winning in the SW which is historically not a Labour area, they’re going to win a humongous majority.

That would be interesting. Theres's a lot of poverty in Cornwall of course - I think it might be the poorest county in England - and it made a huge effort to destroy its own economy by voting for Brexit too. I think the Brexit vote is what turned traditionally Liberal seats into Tory ones at the last general election. It would be amazing if Labour emerged from third place, and no real history in the county, to win parliamentary seats later this year. It might be a sign too that people are prepared to come to their senses over Europe, particularly as it affects the export market in fish.

[oldfordie]

I was laughing about this at first, but now I think he did it on purpose, to draw attention to "must bring ID" in his typical "likeable idiot" way and to get on the news on an election day.

Can't see how him acting like a incompetent idiot helps the Torys right now, a few years back maybe, right now it's all about trying to look competent.

[cornishscouser92]

That would be interesting. Theres's a lot of poverty in Cornwall of course - I think it might be the poorest county in England - and it made a huge effort to destroy its own economy by voting for Brexit too. I think the Brexit vote is what turned traditionally Liberal seats into Tory ones at the last general election. It would be amazing if Labour emerged from third place, and no real history in the county, to win parliamentary seats later this year. It might be a sign too that people are prepared to come to their senses over Europe, particularly as it affects the export market in fish.

Yeah the poverty aspect always gets overlooked, because everyone on holiday says how lovely and scenic the county is. But the wages are shite, the housing is unaffordable and mostly bought by second home owners. There's a lot of old people - who mostly vote Tory.

Labour finished in second in 2019 in the Truro and Falmouth - Small majority to over turn (Big student area because of the uni and college) , Camborne and Redruth - another small ish majority (traditionally the most "working class" as it's got mining history) and St Austell and Newquay - sizeable majority (Lab have never taken this seat) so they're in a good place. They'll take those 3

Lib dems will take St Ives. North Cornwall - I think the Tories will hold on - he has a big majority and Lab/Lib Dem split the vote there.

[filopastry]

Can't see how him acting like a incompetent idiot helps the Torys right now, a few years back maybe, right now it's all about trying to look competent.

I doubt Johnson cares much about helping the Tories, he likely cares a lot more about helping himself as usual

[Robinred]

Yeah the poverty aspect always gets overlooked, because everyone on holiday says how lovely and scenic the county is. But the wages are shite, the housing is unaffordable and mostly bought by second home owners. There's a lot of old people - who mostly vote Tory.

Labour finished in second in 2019 in the Truro and Falmouth - Small majority to over turn (Big student area because of the uni and college) , Camborne and Redruth - another small ish majority (traditionally the most "working class" as it's got mining history) and St Austell and Newquay - sizeable majority (Lab have never taken this seat) so they're in a good place. They'll take those 3

Lib dems will take St Ives. North Cornwall - I think the Tories will hold on - he has a big majority and Lab/Lib Dem split the vote there.

Apparently over 90% of Cornish fishermen voted Brexit. It’s clear from numerous sources however, that the majority now regret it.

[TepidT2O]

Labour have conceded defeat in tees valley mayoral election.


12.5% swing to labour so they will clean up in the general election

[Kenny's Jacket]

I doubt Johnson cares much about helping the Tories, he likely cares a lot more about helping himself as usual

He produced a video saying to vote for Jade their Liverpool Mayoral candidate. I remember thinking its weird he is backing a certain loser. 


Whats he upto?

[oldfordie]

I doubt Johnson cares much about helping the Tories, he likely cares a lot more about helping himself as usual

Yeah 100%. it's sad, it's always the most gullible who love the charlatans the most. always the people who say they've got no faith in our politicians who vote for the biggest con men around.

[cornishscouser92]

Apparently over 90% of Cornish fishermen voted Brexit. It’s clear from numerous sources however, that the majority now regret it.

The fishing industry is probably most likely to affect the St Ives constituency as most of it is in Mousehole. Newlyn, Penzance.
Farming will affect it too, it's a pretty big industry in the county and they've been absolutely shafted by Brexit/Tories too.

Devon looks like it will remain mostly Tory unfortunately, apart from Plymouth and Exeter.
Torbay, Totnes, Torridge & W Devon, Tiverton & Honiton all have huge majorities, it'll be quite close but they'll hold on I think.

Rees-Mogg will lose in NE Somerset. Such a big LD vote for Lab to squeeze there.

[Lisan Al Gaib]

Rumour being spread that Hall has beaten Khan in the London Mayor Election

[TepidT2O]

Rumour being spread that Hall has beaten Khan in the London Mayor Election

Given that they don’t start counting votes until tomorrow, I’d suggest it’s just a rumour

[Yorkykopite]

Apparently over 90% of Cornish fishermen voted Brexit. It’s clear from numerous sources however, that the majority now regret it.

Is that right Robin? I knew there was a majority for Brexit but had thought it was a bit more evenly split than that. I was told that people in the fishing industry who asked the question "How will it affect the catch?" tended to vote Brexit. Those who asked the question "How will we sell the catch?" leaned towards Remain.

[BarnsleyScouser]

Rumour being spread that Hall has beaten Khan in the London Mayor Election

I can't see that being the case at all.

[koptommy93]

Labour conceding defeat in West Mids too. Blaming Muslims not turning out for them.

[Lisan Al Gaib]

Given that they don’t start counting votes until tomorrow, I’d suggest it’s just a rumour

They're verifying the votes today though so may have a clue. The Tories are very confident and Labour not so much.

[Ray K]

How are people electing that (alleged) crook Houchen in the North East?

[Trump's tiny tiny hands]

Rumour being spread that Hall has beaten Khan in the London Mayor Election

I'm not seeing any rumours. I am moving out of London in a few weeks permanently, so it won't bother me either way, but the only way Hall gets in is if its been a historically low turn out for Labour, with protest votes to LibDem and Greens thrown in

[Lisan Al Gaib]

I'm not seeing any rumours. I am moving out of London in a few weeks permanently, so it won't bother me either way, but the only way Hall gets in is if its been a historically low turn out for Labour, with protest votes to LibDem and Greens thrown in

I think this is what's driving the rumours

[cornishscouser92]

Spread markets are implying Khan's odds at 1.1 has a 91% chance of winning, Hall is 8.6 or an 11% chance

[cornishscouser92]

How are people electing that (alleged) crook Houchen in the North East?

He's campaigned on an independent agenda and has a huge majority.

[KillieRed]

He's campaigned on an independent agenda and has a huge majority.

Are people unaware of the things he has (allegedly) done? Absolutely shocking tale.

[RedDeadRejection]

Can't believe people are still doing the whole 4D Chess thing with Boris FFS, the man is an idiot who regularly does idiotic things and you're all in here trying to decipher his genius strategy

He was smart enough to know a caricature of a buffoon would get voted into high office. The man isn't stupid, he's just a sociopath.

[Libertine]

Labour sources in Birmingham are saying they believe the Conservative West Midlands mayor Andy Street is going to hold on to his post as Muslim voters turn away from the party over its stance on Gaza.

West Midlands is not counting until tomorrow, but one Labour source in the city said: "Street will win due to the Middle East, not because of his success in the West Midlands."

It’s thought many Muslim voters may have voted for independent candidate, Akhmed Yakoob, who some are saying could come third in some areas of the city.

Last week Yakoob, a lawyer, was joined by George Galloway on the campaign trail targeting disillusioned Muslim voters with a strong focus on Gaza.

[classycarra]

Are people unaware of the things he has (allegedly) done? Absolutely shocking tale.

crooks are so hot right now. just look at galloway

Labour sources in Birmingham are saying they believe the Conservative West Midlands mayor Andy Street is going to hold on to his post as Muslim voters turn away from the party over its stance on Gaza.

West Midlands is not counting until tomorrow, but one Labour source in the city said: "Street will win due to the Middle East, not because of his success in the West Midlands."

It’s thought many Muslim voters may have voted for independent candidate, Akhmed Yakoob, who some are saying could come third in some areas of the city.

Last week Yakoob, a lawyer, was joined by George Galloway on the campaign trail targeting disillusioned Muslim voters with a strong focus on Gaza.

single issue voting a local mayoral election on foreign policy is an interesting tactic. seems like it may have helped the party who currently sets foreign policy to retain their mayor too. let's see how it works out for them.

[filopastry]

The rumours seem to be coming from Hall's camp, they were the ones saying they were confident she had won, maybe setting herself up for a Trump style whinge fest if she doesn't

[Jiminy Cricket]

He was smart enough to know a caricature of a buffoon would get voted into high office. The man isn't stupid, he's just a sociopath.

Johnson is not playing a buffoon, he is a buffoon. The problem is that there are enough idiots in the UK who willing vote for a buffoon into high office (at least for a while) because it amuses them to do so. Johnson as PM reflects the UK electorate. And my God, they had to take right kicking before they began to suspect that the Tories, perhaps, do not have their best interests at heart.

[gazzalfc]

Street didn't just win on single issue voting.

He spent most of his time distancing himself from central government. He made sure that Sunak was nowhere near his campaign and spoke very well with people like Andy Burnham and other metro mayors.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

Fucking bored of these fucking Corbynite c*nts popping up on all my streams with their childish fucking boring fucking shite.

Liebour.


Fucking grow up, you stupid c*nts.

[Gili Gulu]

Fucking bored of these fucking Corbynite c*nts popping up on all my streams with their childish fucking boring fucking shite.

Liebour.


Fucking grow up, you stupid c*nts.

I wonder how many of them know someone who's had to pay the bedroom tax, or has been actually shafted by the myriad Tory policies that have resulted in a massive increase in wealth inequality in this country.

Heaven forefend that someone actually compromises their ideals to implement a policy that will benefit people's lives. Let's all go on a demo instead.

Obviously more important that people can go to political meetings where everyone agrees with each other, but nothing actually every gets done.

[RedDeadRejection]

Fucking bored of these fucking Corbynite c*nts popping up on all my streams with their childish fucking boring fucking shite.

Liebour.


Fucking grow up, you stupid c*nts.

Not seen anything on my feed to be honest. But if it's stuff about Israel and the LBC Starmer interview I have seen then I don't think it's childish at all.

Thankfully it won't make a dent.

[cornishscouser92]

The response to the Sheffield green party tickled me on Twitter the other week

[Kenny's Jacket]

The response to the Sheffield green party tickled me on Twitter the other week

The Japanese budget deficit is of very little interest to UK voters.  Id be surprised if any British party had a stance on it.

[cornishscouser92]

Tories getting battered in Swindon. Lab hold 41 and Con 15 - Which is 2 marginal seats for the GE.

In Grant Shapps' seat the Tories have lost 10 out of the 13 seats they were defending.

[cornishscouser92]

The Japanese budget deficit is of very little interest to UK voters.  Id be surprised if any British party had a stance on it.

It was a very tongue in cheek response to Sheffield Greens becoming obsessed with Gaza for the local elections, rather than pot holes, bin collections etc.