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tommy LFC · « **Reply #40 on:** October 3, 2011, 11:02:09 pm »

United's play is too open this season. Norwich and Basel showed if you attack them you will create chances. Suarez will cause havoc.

On another note, why wasn't Ferdinand picked for England? Personal reasons, being rested or was he dropped?

Rohit · « **Reply #41 on:** October 3, 2011, 11:02:40 pm »

Quote from: tommyLFC on October 3, 2011, 11:02:09 pm

United's play is too open this season. Norwich and Basel showed if you attack them you will create chances. Suarez will cause havoc.

On another note, why wasn't Ferdinand picked for England? Personal reasons, being rested or was he dropped?

Because he has been shit most probably.

anfieldpurch · « **Reply #42 on:** October 3, 2011, 11:05:09 pm »

I think we can beat them, We can get up in their faces and they will struggle, it's been seen of late.

Bellamy for Downing
Gerrard for Carroll

Fast paced start and we can stick 3 or 4 past them. De Gea has been prone to errors and I think he will cock up here

Solomon Grundy · « **Reply #43 on:** October 3, 2011, 11:05:28 pm »

Lets not get too over-confident over this one. This will be a tough game and they wont underestimate us like they did with Basle and Norwich. They will be well up for this.

fernANDDDo · « **Reply #44 on:** October 3, 2011, 11:06:07 pm »

I think Basle showed nicely how suspect their defence can be without Vidic. We need Carroll to bully Evans in the air and Suarez to trick his way past Jones and show his inexperience. Our best shot at winning is through the middle as their flanks are stronger than ours IMO

tommy LFC · « **Reply #45 on:** October 3, 2011, 11:07:46 pm »

Quote from: anfieldpurch on October 3, 2011, 11:05:09 pm

I think we can beat them, We can get up in their faces and they will struggle, it's been seen of late.

Bellamy for Downing
Gerrard for Carroll

Fast paced start and we can stick 3 or 4 past them. De Gea has been prone to errors and I think he will cock up here

Absolutley no way should Carroll be dropped. Gerrard for Adam, although wouldn't be surprised if he came off the bench again.

Rohit · « **Reply #46 on:** October 3, 2011, 11:07:46 pm »

Quote from: fernANDDDo on October 3, 2011, 11:06:07 pm

I think Basle showed nicely how suspect their defence can be without Vidic. We need Carroll to bully Evans in the air and Suarez to trick his way past Jones and show his inexperience. Our best shot at winning is through the middle as their flanks are stronger than ours IMO

Not really. to be honest carroll isn't really dominate in the air anyway and if its one thing united defense don't like its the ball in behind the back four.

HiroProtagonist · « **Reply #47 on:** October 3, 2011, 11:11:00 pm »

I'm actually nervous about this one. Mostly because of the international break and the lack of Danny Agger at the back.

cim-pim-param · « **Reply #48 on:** October 3, 2011, 11:14:08 pm »

Would really like to see Maxi get a start for this one.

joezydudek · « **Reply #49 on:** October 3, 2011, 11:14:14 pm »

Quote from: HiroProtagonist on October 3, 2011, 11:11:00 pm

I'm actually nervous about this one. Mostly because of the international break and the lack of Danny Agger at the back.

Is there not a chance Agger might be back for it? Thought he was already in light training, though admittedly that might not mean his ribs will necessarily be ready for full contact by then.

Saint Kopite · « **Reply #50 on:** October 3, 2011, 11:14:32 pm »

I think both Agger and Glen would be back.

Kenny mentioned they are back in training. So, I guess they will be fit for the match. Anyways, I think we'll defeat them. We have The King afterall.

tubby · « **Reply #51 on:** October 3, 2011, 11:14:40 pm »

Think we can really open them up if they play like they have this season. Trouble is, their front 4 will be incredibly difficult to keep out for 90 minutes.

It'll probably end up 0-0.

Big Dirk · « **Reply #52 on:** October 3, 2011, 11:14:50 pm »

Quote from: HiroProtagonist on October 3, 2011, 11:11:00 pm

I'm actually nervous about this one. Mostly because of the international break and the lack of Danny Agger at the back.

Agger is back in training,hopefully De Gay will fall to pieces in front of the Kop.

Fuzion6 · « **Reply #53 on:** October 3, 2011, 11:14:58 pm »

Gerrard and Adam should dominate the middle - we could really control this game. Get Carroll on Phil Jones - great player but he is poor in the air. Crouch dominated him

Austin Powers · « **Reply #54 on:** October 3, 2011, 11:19:09 pm »

The game will be decided on the wings imo.
If Johnson/Kelly can keep out Young and Enrique can keep out Nani then I think we stand a very good chance of winning

downtown · « **Reply #55 on:** October 3, 2011, 11:29:56 pm »

I think the first 11 really picks itself with only a couple of quesitons:

Reina
Kelly
Carra
Agger
Enrique
Lucas
Gerrard
Suarez
Kuyt
Downing

Those are cert to start IMO

Leaving the 11th player between either Adam or Carroll. do we want 4-2-2-2 or 4-5-1.

Crouch destroyed their back line in the end last week at Britannia, and especially if Vidic isn't there, they'll struggle with DDG not being the best there.
On the other hand, If they drop their usual 4-4-2, and play 4-5-1 with Rooney as lone striker, and we play 4-2-2-2, we may struggle.

It's kenny's call.

JoeH · « **Reply #56 on:** October 3, 2011, 11:30:11 pm »

Quote from: Austin Powers on October 3, 2011, 11:19:09 pm

The game will be decided ~~on the wings~~ ref imo.
If they dont have Howard Webb, we could potentially slaughter them like the pigs they are

Fixed that

Trada · « **Reply #57 on:** October 3, 2011, 11:32:53 pm »

I have a good feeling about this game.

But I will be shocked if they play as open against us as they did against Norwich.

Bring it on.

Shame it's not this weekend.

tommy LFC · « **Reply #58 on:** October 3, 2011, 11:32:58 pm »

Is Aurelio fit? Would start him left midfield, would really help combat Nani / Young and his delivery would cause problem for them without Vidic.

Austin Powers · « **Reply #59 on:** October 3, 2011, 11:34:08 pm »

Quote from: JoeH on October 3, 2011, 11:30:11 pm

Fixed that

Ha! Silly me

CHOPPER · « **Reply #60 on:** October 3, 2011, 11:39:08 pm »

At them from the get go, don't let them settle, tackle hard, get their back four turning and above all, have confidence. Pretty much like every other time we have beaten them.

Don't do all these things and we'll get beat, because you can't out spawn the masters of spawn.

LFC when it suits · « **Reply #61 on:** October 3, 2011, 11:41:04 pm »

Want to say that we will beat them and we definately can, but the law of averages seems to say that they are due a victory as we have been getting the better of them in the last few seasons.

tommy LFC · « **Reply #62 on:** October 3, 2011, 11:43:56 pm »

Quote from: LFC_4_life on October 3, 2011, 11:41:04 pm

Want to say that we will beat them and we definately can, but the law of averages seems to say that they are due a victory as we have been getting the better of them in the last few seasons.

They beat us twice last seaon, we beat them once. If anything, the law of averages says it should be a draw, this game has rarely ended in a draw in recent years.

Chivasino · « **Reply #63 on:** October 3, 2011, 11:45:24 pm »

I would be tempted to start with the same team that finished against the bitters. Maybe Downing for Bellamy.

The thing with Gerrard is that he was building his match fitness game by game and now he has two weeks without a game. Can he start against the Mancs? Will be a tough decision for Kenny.

Number 7 · « **Reply #64 on:** October 3, 2011, 11:47:00 pm »

Our entire defensive line is not involved in any internationals. So the defense should be well rested.

Johnson-Carragher-Agger-Enrique

LFC when it suits · « **Reply #65 on:** October 3, 2011, 11:47:26 pm »

Quote from: tommyLFC on October 3, 2011, 11:43:56 pm

They beat us twice last seaon, we beat them once. If anything, the law of averages says it should be a draw, this game has rarely ended in a draw in recent years.

I was thinking more in the league. Since the season where we finished second, they beat us once and we beat them quite a few time times and we actually owned them badly with the 4-1 at OT and the 3-0 last season.

campioni · « **Reply #66 on:** October 3, 2011, 11:49:25 pm »

I don't think ferguson will make the same mistake as last season with their midfield. We won comfortably at anfield last season by completly dominating in midfield and we'll need to do the same again. If we go with two in centre midfield I think we would be better off with spearing and Lucas. Spearing will not let them settle and give Lucas a bit more freedom by protecting the back four. Unlikely kenny will drop Adam for spearing though.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised to see us play 5 in midfield with gerrard (if fully fit) given the responsibility of supporting Carroll or Suarez.

Azi · « **Reply #67 on:** October 3, 2011, 11:51:34 pm »

Quote from: Chivasino on October 3, 2011, 11:45:24 pm

I would be tempted to start with the same team that finished against the bitters. Maybe Downing for Bellamy.

The thing with Gerrard is that he was building his match fitness game by game and now he has two weeks without a game. Can he start against the Mancs? Will be a tough decision for Kenny.

which is why a wouldn't have been bothered if Gerrard was to get 45 mins for England

Chivasino · « **Reply #68 on:** October 3, 2011, 11:58:12 pm »

Quote from: Azi on October 3, 2011, 11:51:34 pm

which is why a wouldn't have been bothered if Gerrard was to get 45 mins for England

Same here mate. Or started and got 60 minutes.

Cruiser · « **Reply #69 on:** October 4, 2011, 12:04:36 am »

We normally blow them away at Anfield but this season we've looked quite toothless without Gerrard or Bellamy so at least one has to start or I can't share the same confidence as others on here. Utd have been extremely clinical this season and we have to do everything to ensure our attack puts our chances away.

Reina

Kelly Carra Agger Enrique

Lucas Adam

Kuyt Gerrard Downing

Suarez

I think we'll edge this 2-1

stevieG786 · « **Reply #70 on:** October 4, 2011, 12:26:08 am »

Reina

Carra Agger
Johnson Enrique

Lucas Adam

Stevie

Kuyt Suarez
Carrol

stevieG786 · « **Reply #71 on:** October 4, 2011, 12:32:40 am »

also i hope the midfield of Anderson and Cleverley

plays against Stevie and co, we'll dominate with ease

jaffod · « **Reply #72 on:** October 4, 2011, 12:32:44 am »

Attack them, they don't like it up 'em. Just wish Suarez and Lucas weren't in South America midweek.

anfieldpurch · « **Reply #73 on:** October 4, 2011, 12:36:13 am »

Quote from: LFC_4_life on October 3, 2011, 11:47:26 pm

I was thinking more in the league the 3-0 last season.

Finished 3-1 to us at anfield and we lost 3-2 at Old Trafford

SP · « **Reply #74 on:** October 4, 2011, 12:39:48 am »

I predict 3 red card challenges on Suarez to go unpunished after a fortnight of build-up concentrating on supposed diving. I don't expect to hear a word about the actual laws of the game, or the other red card worthy tackles in the Derby.

I also predict a watershed moment. Rather than a made up nonsense story about Torres or Gerrard, this is the start of a new era. There will be a dodgy Suarez story filling up the back pages. I feel the torch may have passed and we get a whole fresh new wave of bullshit in the run up to Manc's games.

RyanBabel19 · « **Reply #75 on:** October 4, 2011, 12:43:52 am »

Actually cant pick a team for this, too many questions to answer in regards to the starting 11. Whos going to be fit to play ? Will Glen be back by then, and will Agger ? Is stevie ready to start ? If he does should he play AM or CM alongside Lucas ? Who should play on the left, Suarez, Bellamy or Downing ? One up front or two ? What formation ? Its good to have (most of) these problems in the side

Fiasco · « **Reply #76 on:** October 4, 2011, 12:55:01 am »

Waiting a week for the derby was bad, waiting a fortnight for this will be hell. Beating Everton then hopefully beating these will be a massive shot in the arm for us, and there is no reason we can't beat them. I'll say it again like I do every time I mention them : IF YOU ATTACK THEM YOU WILL SCORE GOALS. It's simple. They are weak as piss at the back and I totally expect Lucas, fitness permitting, to have another stormer like he has the past several times he has against them. Adam will probably maintain his place and he needs to maintain his discipline and dicate play.

Bellamy is a must for me, an absolute must. Him and Kuyt on he flanks will be just what we need to combat them on the wings; Dirk with his work ethic doubling up and Bellamy as a counter-attacking outlet when needed. Bellamy will get right at them and they don't like that. Our possible back four will be fresh as fuck as none of them have been called up ( Johnson if fit, or Kelly, Carra, Agger should be fit and Jose ) . The big question is Suarez, and he if he plays 90 minutes twice in the run up I can't see us starting him.

I reckon Downing will be on the bench, I dunno why I just think Bellamy will start and Kuyt is also a cert in these big games, especially after netting three in march against them ( P.S has that poster who's name evades me shagged a labrador yet? ).

Now onto Gerrard. He will be biting Kennys ears off at Melwood for two weeks and he will be hard at it keeping up his fitness. I think he will start, maybe just furthest forward of three central midfielders and suppling Andy. Do the ressies play during Internationals? If they do I can see him getting at least 45 minutes in a run out to creep his fitness up.

FWIW, I think we will go with this :

Reina

Johnson Carragher Agger Enrique

Lucas
Adam
Gerrard

Kuyt Carroll Bellamy

Suarez, Downing, Henderson, Maxi - all great options off the bench. We will beat these fuckers. 3-0.

AnfieldRD19 · « **Reply #77 on:** October 4, 2011, 12:59:18 am »

Reina
Kelly Agger Carragher Enrique

Lucas

Kuyt Downing

Gerrard

Suarez Carroll

AnfieldRD19 · « **Reply #78 on:** October 4, 2011, 01:02:01 am »

Quote from: Fiasco on October 4, 2011, 12:55:01 am

FWIW, I think we will go with this :

Reina

Johnson Carragher Agger Enrique

Lucas
Adam
Gerrard

Kuyt Carroll Bellamy

Suarez, Downing, Henderson, Maxi - all great options off the bench. We will beat these fuckers. 3-0.

Why the fuck would Kenny not start our best player against the best team in the EPL right now?

reds88 · « **Reply #79 on:** October 4, 2011, 01:03:28 am »

Quote from: J-Mc- on October 3, 2011, 10:55:21 pm

May have to start Suarez from the bench in this as he'll be fucked from the travelling IMO.

Suarez will be raring to go against United tired or not. He won't be a happy camper sitting on the bench.