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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #80 on: January 27, 2024, 11:33:36 am »
I can only see Alonso and I actually hope it is him as he'll get pretty much full backing from the fans too. Plus given time and resources to mould his team.
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #81 on: January 27, 2024, 11:34:02 am »
The other thing about Xabi is, he could grow with the team. He is my number one choice but that's not to say others shouldn't be looked at. The coach at Sporting Lisbon Rúben Amorim is overperforming against richer opposition in Portugal as well.
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #82 on: January 27, 2024, 11:35:46 am »
Gotta be Xabi for me, not sure why sentiment keeps getting talked about with him, maybe a tiny bit of it but he's one of the outstanding candidates even if you ignore his playing history, look on any teams forum who want a new manager like Utd and he's the one everyone wants.

Do think De Zerbi has had a lot of unfair stuff written about him on here over the last day or so though, I'd be very happy with him if we couldn't get Xabi, he's been a fascinating coach long before he even turned up at Brighton. Feels like it's assumed he's another Potter when they aren't really that alike in playing style and definitely not personality wise. If we don't get him hopefully he doesn't end up in Manchester.

De Zerbi and Potter are light years apart. Potter can't get his teams to score goals, whilst De Zerbi can't get his teams to stop conceding them (other than ironically their last game, which was their first clean sheet at home for like a year).

I'd be content with De Zerbi because we have Van Dijk and Alisson. I'd throw myself off a building with Potter.
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #83 on: January 27, 2024, 11:37:13 am »
Gotta be Xabi for me, not sure why sentiment keeps getting talked about with him, maybe a tiny bit of it but he's one of the outstanding candidates even if you ignore his playing history, look on any teams forum who want a new manager like Utd and he's the one everyone wants.

Do think De Zerbi has had a lot of unfair stuff written about him on here over the last day or so though, I'd be very happy with him if we couldn't get Xabi, he's been a fascinating coach long before he even turned up at Brighton. Feels like it's assumed he's another Potter when they aren't really that alike in playing style and definitely not personality wise. If we don't get him hopefully he doesn't end up in Manchester.

That's the shame, because people have set their hearts on Alonso there appears to be this need of rubbishing the other candidates, rather than people having an open debate about different coaches. None of them, even Xabi are a like for like replacement for Klopp as there isn't one. So everyone is going to have both good and negative points but people should be a bit more open minded about considering other candidates. At the end of the day the owners will decide, not us.
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #84 on: January 27, 2024, 11:39:19 am »
I think it will be Xabi Alonso or De Zerbi.

I hope Alonso gets the job, and think he’ll be the club’s preferred candidate, but I’d be happy with De Zerbi. For me, they’re the two obvious standouts of the names that have been, and will be, linked with the job.

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« Reply #85 on: January 27, 2024, 11:39:40 am »
Xabi is the only one that makes sense. It's pretty obvious that there needs to be an emotional connection between manager and fans of this club, and I think FSG get that and will do what's right here.

He's the only one we will give the time to, and he has a really good platform to do well. Anyone else after Jurgen will be on a hiding to nothing not only from the performance levels, but also trying to integrate themselves into the hearts of the fans.

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« Reply #86 on: January 27, 2024, 11:42:49 am »
thinking he might bring Kylian in his carry-on? I could get on board with that ;D

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« Reply #87 on: January 27, 2024, 11:46:06 am »
I imagine we will want to move quickly as Utd will be after a manager soon.

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #88 on: January 27, 2024, 11:47:23 am »
Alonso has been a senior team manager for 18 months and the clamour for him is as if he's won everything over a 20 year period

We are being far too emotional, will get us into all sorts of bother that. United did it with Solksjaer
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« Reply #89 on: January 27, 2024, 11:48:38 am »
Like most people, Alonso is far and away my number one choice. He feels like, at the minute, the only one who doesn't fill me with overwhelming pessimism.

As of right now, nobody else excites me. The likes of De Zerbi, Frank or Nagelsmann could all theoretically be successful, but 9 years of Klopp not only succeeding on the football pitch but cultivating a proper emotional relationship with the fans and the city leaves me feeling a bit cold to all 3 of them.

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« Reply #90 on: January 27, 2024, 11:50:13 am »
I'm hoping we get Alonso.  He's been really smart with the start of his management career staying at Real Sociedad B for 3 seasons learning the trade before making the jump to 1st team manager at Leverkusen where he has been great.  Maybe one additional year there would have been the best case scenario for him but, the best case scenario rarely happens so I really think we need to make him the top choice for our next manager.   

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #91 on: January 27, 2024, 11:50:56 am »
It's Xabi Alonso. I just hope we get the right DOF and structure in for him to work with.
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #92 on: January 27, 2024, 11:52:36 am »
Alonso has been a senior team manager for 18 months and the clamour for him is as if he's won everything over a 20 year period

We are being far too emotional, will get us into all sorts of bother that. United did it with Solksjaer

There are really no other outstanding candidates out there right now.  There are a lot of managers just under that "elite" level that we'll be looking at but nobody that really stands out.  Alonso is actually in his 5th years as manager as he spent 3 years managing Real Sociedad B team.  Yes, it would be ideal if he had another year or two at Leverkusen but that's not the case. 

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #93 on: January 27, 2024, 11:52:55 am »
It's Xabi Alonso. I just hope we get the right DOF and structure in for him to work with.

If it is we have months for chats and approval (DOF?) for people put in place around him

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« Reply #94 on: January 27, 2024, 11:53:29 am »
Not sure at all. I kind of hoped Ancelotti could have been a consideration but thats of course never happening now. Spaletti is a possibility as well but does he ever consider leaving Napoli?

The obvious one seems Alonso but until he wins anything I am throwing him in the group along side Gary O’Neill and De Zerbi, possible talented managers who have won fuck all.

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« Reply #95 on: January 27, 2024, 11:54:31 am »
Surprised Postecoglou isn’t being mentioned more.

He would bring loads of what we love about Jurgen IMO. He formed an unbelievable connection with the fans at Celtic, in the same way that Klopp reflects the mindset and ethos of Liverpool. He’s also excellent with media, takes no bullshit which is a huge element of being a manager in the modern era.

And he’s doing a really good job at Spurs, playing excellent football. Would be committed to supporting the youth coming through, would work well with a Director of Football - he’s happy to look in less fashionable leagues for quality players.

Think we’d absolutely love him as a man, question is whether he can become a truly elite coach. I’m not sure - and for that reason think it’ll end up being someone like Alonso where the upside is huge - but Postecoglou would win the fans over quickly if he came I think. Also a massive Liverpool fan apparently.
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #96 on: January 27, 2024, 11:57:15 am »
There are really no other outstanding candidates out there right now.  There are a lot of managers just under that "elite" level that we'll be looking at but nobody that really stands out.  Alonso is actually in his 5th years as manager as he spent 3 years managing Real Sociedad B team.  Yes, it would be ideal if he had another year or two at Leverkusen but that's not the case. 

I know he's managed b teams that's why I said senior manager

Just throwing a club legend at it and hoping he sticks to the window is as I say emotional at best

If there's no one I would much rather the reigns handed over to Pep Lijnders . Knows the team, knows Klopps tactics, formations and his way
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« Reply #97 on: January 27, 2024, 11:58:17 am »
What Xabi is doing in Germany as a young coach is sensational.

Frankly I couldn't care less whether he was our player or not, would have wanted him regardless.

That's the key question here. Strip Alonso of all Liverpool connections, would you want him to be the next manager?

I'm with you, his work at Leverkusen is exceptional, remember this is a club that's never won the Bundesliga and he's got them above a Munich who have won the last 11 titles. And he started out in the relegation zone less than 2 years ago.

His status at Liverpool as a player and his love for the city is like the cherry and the icing on top of an already tasty cake. A no brainer IMO. After listening to his conference yesterday I'm almost certain it's already done.

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« Reply #98 on: January 27, 2024, 11:58:18 am »
If The Athletic is correct and Spearman was tasked in November with finding a manager whose philosophy matched our playing profile, I'd imagine we'll get some managers that aren't been discussed much in the media

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« Reply #99 on: January 27, 2024, 11:58:40 am »

Jűrgen does a lot  :P
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #100 on: January 27, 2024, 11:58:43 am »


Just throwing a club legend at it and hoping he sticks to the window is as I say emotional at best


Go and look at the Bundesliga table.

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« Reply #101 on: January 27, 2024, 11:59:12 am »
I know he's managed b teams that's why I said senior manager

Just throwing a club legend at it and hoping he sticks to the window is as I say emotional at best

If there's no one I would much rather the reigns handed over to Pep Lijnders . Knows the team, knows Klopps tactics, formations and his way

Alonso would be a top contender even if he’d never played for Liverpool though. He looks like he could be the next elite manager given what he’s doing at Leverkusen, that would intrigue any big club on the lookout for someone.

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« Reply #102 on: January 27, 2024, 11:59:52 am »
I know he's managed b teams that's why I said senior manager

Just throwing a club legend at it and hoping he sticks to the window is as I say emotional at best

If there's no one I would much rather the reigns handed over to Pep Lijnders . Knows the team, knows Klopps tactics, formations and his way

He’s 64 games unbeaten.. he’s managed 68 games..

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« Reply #103 on: January 27, 2024, 12:00:08 pm »
I can’t believe people can keep a straight face suggesting Lijnders

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« Reply #104 on: January 27, 2024, 12:00:33 pm »
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« Reply #105 on: January 27, 2024, 12:02:03 pm »
Fernando Diniz?
Relationism is the "next big thing" in football tactics and FSG are all about the next big thing, wouldn't surprise me at all and prizing him away from Fluminense into the premiership shouldn't be an issue

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« Reply #106 on: January 27, 2024, 12:02:21 pm »
Not sure at all. I kind of hoped Ancelotti could have been a consideration but thats of course never happening now. Spaletti is a possibility as well but does he ever consider leaving Napoli?

The obvious one seems Alonso but until he wins anything I am throwing him in the group along side Gary O’Neill and De Zerbi, possible talented managers who have won fuck all.

Bit hard for Spalleti to coach Italy by not leaving Napoli killer.  :P

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« Reply #107 on: January 27, 2024, 12:02:42 pm »
I reckon Hansi Flick will be someone they look at. Won it all at Bayern, then went to the German national team and it didn’t work out but not sure how much stock you can put in that.

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« Reply #108 on: January 27, 2024, 12:04:13 pm »
Kenny did it with zero managerial experience, yes he had the backroom to assist, but he was very much his own man, Xabi has been picking up experience, he's tearing up the Bundesliga and he wants to manage us, so I'm not worried about it if the club want Xabi - if he doesn't mind paying the taxes that is ;)

I did think Pep would step up, but maybe he sees his future in club management abroad, maybe Spain, or he wants to be assistant to Klopp in the German National setup?
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« Reply #109 on: January 27, 2024, 12:04:58 pm »
I can’t believe people can keep a straight face suggesting Lijnders

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #110 on: January 27, 2024, 12:05:41 pm »
That's the key question here. Strip Alonso of all Liverpool connections, would you want him to be the next manager?



And the answer to that is absolutely not. I don't think your trying hard enough to strip him of those LFC ties


Frankly a lot of people are as with many teams fans, only dreaming of what could be instead of looking at it objectively. It's one thing taking low expectations of Bayer and running with it, it's quite another when you are expected to win every game you play, it's a cauldron

I'd love Alonso to come in and be a success, but Klopp has built something here we want to continue. Someone like Alonso would've been a good fit after Kenny, not after a guy who's just rebuilt the entire club back to its glory.

As I've mentioned United did this with Ole. That's enough to fill me with dread
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #111 on: January 27, 2024, 12:06:41 pm »
I can’t believe people can keep a straight face suggesting Lijnders

Such a disrespectful post.
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« Reply #112 on: January 27, 2024, 12:06:48 pm »
And the answer to that is absolutely not. I don't think your trying hard enough to strip him of those LFC ties


Frankly a lot of people are as with many teams fans, only dreaming of what could be instead of looking at it objectively. It's one thing taking low expectations of Bayer and running with it, it's quite another when you are expected to win every game you play, it's a cauldron

I'd love Alonso to come in and be a success, but Klopp has built something here we want to continue. Someone like Alonso would've been a good fit after Kenny, not after a guy who's just rebuilt the entire club back to its glory.

Hopefully we've got lucky with the timing of Mourinho's departure from Roma, he can have a break and be fresh in June.

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« Reply #113 on: January 27, 2024, 12:07:03 pm »
I reckon Hansi Flick will be someone they look at. Won it all at Bayern, then went to the German national team and it didn’t work out but not sure how much stock you can put in that.

Yep should be considered.

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« Reply #114 on: January 27, 2024, 12:07:12 pm »
I can’t believe people can keep a straight face suggesting Lijnders

As interim? Why

What a horrible fuckin post
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« Reply #115 on: January 27, 2024, 12:08:12 pm »
As interim? Why

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« Reply #116 on: January 27, 2024, 12:09:07 pm »
I know he's managed b teams that's why I said senior manager

Just throwing a club legend at it and hoping he sticks to the window is as I say emotional at best

If there's no one I would much rather the reigns handed over to Pep Lijnders . Knows the team, knows Klopps tactics, formations and his way

What he's done/is doing at Leverkusen is pretty impressive though.  He's the outstanding candidate in my opinion.

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« Reply #117 on: January 27, 2024, 12:09:11 pm »
Surely Zidane would be up for it?

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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #118 on: January 27, 2024, 12:12:25 pm »
And the answer to that is absolutely not. I don't think your trying hard enough to strip him of those LFC ties


Frankly a lot of people are as with many teams fans, only dreaming of what could be instead of looking at it objectively. It's one thing taking low expectations of Bayer and running with it, it's quite another when you are expected to win every game you play, it's a cauldron

I'd love Alonso to come in and be a success, but Klopp has built something here we want to continue. Someone like Alonso would've been a good fit after Kenny, not after a guy who's just rebuilt the entire club back to its glory.

As I've mentioned United did this with Ole. That's enough to fill me with dread

I think you are entirely estimating how rare it is for any manager to stop Bayern from winning the Bundesliga, only Klopp himself has achieved that in the past, twice. If Alonso manages to achieve that, he becomes even hotter property. Considering there is no like for like replacement for Klopp as he is a one off, it opens the level of candidates rather than closing them down. We could  no longer dismiss Xabi than a number of other choices. Whose to say with the right people around him he can't take the club forward, he would have the opportunity to grow with a young team, which if successful would lead to stability, which is crucial in any setup.
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Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Reply #119 on: January 27, 2024, 12:13:15 pm »
Go and look at the Bundesliga table.

I watch Bundesliga every week and am more than aware of how Alonso is doing

If you don't limit yourself with bad thoughts, you can fly

Jurgen Klopp