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Re: US 2020 Election - Primary Season
« Reply #3000 on: July 22, 2020, 04:15:10 am »
Let's sum it up.
You tell me she's held to an higher standard because she's in "The Squad "
So that's the difference between her and any other case of nepotism
and thats why the story was written about her.
 Have I got that right ? 

Omar, AOC et al are some of the most progressive members of Congress. More importantly, they're collective a voice for change within American politics, and as such a high moral standard is always going to be expected of them. Everyone expects Mitch McConnell to be corrupt. He's a part of the establishment. But it's much more of a fall from grace for the clean young hope for the future.

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Re: US 2020 Election - Primary Season
« Reply #3001 on: July 22, 2020, 05:23:07 am »
Pretty shitty move by Omar and hope she gets replaced soon. This type of stuff will only undermine the reputation of the likes of AOC and other progressives who campaign for positive change in the society.

In related news, her opponent for the primary has raised funds multiple times the amount that she has, prompting her to claim he's being propped up by someone. Then goes on to say her interal polling has her 37 points ahead. Did her husband conduct that internal poll? ;D

More here: https://nypost.com/2020/07/20/squad-members-rashida-tlaib-ilhan-omar-facing-tough-primary-challenges/
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Re: US 2020 Election - Primary Season
« Reply #3002 on: July 22, 2020, 09:25:12 am »
Let's sum it up.
You tell me she's held to an higher standard because she's in "The Squad "
So that's the difference between her and any other case of nepotism
and thats why the story was written about her.
Have I got that right ?

Yes. Yes you have.

Everyone expects Republicans to be dirty. Democrats are held to a higher standard.  That's why Al Franken resigned where a GOP senator would have rode it out.

That said, I fully expect Bill Maher to make a blistering defence of her and blast wishy washy liberals' cancel culture.
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Re: US 2020 Election - Primary Season
« Reply #3003 on: July 22, 2020, 11:15:35 am »
Let's sum it up.
You tell me she's held to an higher standard because she's in "The Squad "
So that's the difference between her and any other case of nepotism
and thats why the story was written about her.
 Have I got that right ?

Read these two posts.

Omar, AOC et al are some of the most progressive members of Congress. More importantly, they're collective a voice for change within American politics, and as such a high moral standard is always going to be expected of them. Everyone expects Mitch McConnell to be corrupt. He's a part of the establishment. But it's much more of a fall from grace for the clean young hope for the future.

Yes. Yes you have.

Everyone expects Republicans to be dirty. Democrats are held to a higher standard.  That's why Al Franken resigned where a GOP senator would have rode it out.

That said, I fully expect Bill Maher to make a blistering defence of her and blast wishy washy liberals' cancel culture.

She's held to a higher standard not because she's just in "The Squad" per se or whatever name they've given themselves. She's held to a higher standard because she's been one of the most outspoken liberal and progressive voices during the last two years since she was elected. She ran on these things you know. Washington is corrupt, let's get new and young fresh faces in, get the old guard out etc, etc and two years later it looks as though she's no better than the very people she was running to replace and become a part of in order to make some sort of difference. It's incredibly disappointing.

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Re: US 2020 Election - Primary Season
« Reply #3004 on: July 22, 2020, 01:18:18 pm »
Might this have an impact on the presidential race in Ohio?

UPDATE: Larry Householder, 4 others reportedly in custody, FBI at Ohio House Speaker’s farm

https://www.daytondailynews.com/news/breaking-news-fbi-agents-are-at-ohio-house-speaker-larry-householders-farm/JCKHFEK4ZFH5HJF5O4MCP3BY2M/

Internal poll shows tight race brewing in key Ohio House race

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Rep. Steve Chabot (R) and Democrat Kate Schroder are in an increasingly tight race in Ohio’s 1st Congressional District, according to an internal poll from Schroder’s campaign.

The new survey, obtained exclusively by The Hill, shows Chabot with a 2-point lead among registered voters, a difference that falls within the poll’s margin of error. Chabot gets the support of 48 percent of likely voters in the poll, compared with 46 percent for Schroder, a health care advocate.

Schroder trailed the 12-term incumbent by a 43-50 percent margin in a poll from the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee released in April.

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The race in the Cincinnati-area district appears to be tightening in the final 100 days leading up to the election. Schroder raised about $624,000 in the second quarter of the year, while Chabot raised roughly $310,000, leading the Cook Political Report, a nonpartisan election handicapper, to shift its rating of the race from “lean Republican” to “toss up.”

Chabot won reelection in 2018 by more than 4 points against Democrat Aftab Pureval, whose campaign did not raise as much money as Schroder’s and was caught up in a campaign finance scandal.

The Cook Political Report noted in its announcement of its rating change that Chabot’s campaign manager is now being investigated for allegedly embezzling over $120,000 in campaign funds.

In a sign the district is becoming more competitive up and down the ballot, former Vice President Joe Biden is leading President Trump there 50 percent to 45 percent among likely voters. Trump won the district by 6 points in 2016.

A Fox News poll and a Quinnipiac University survey last month both showing Biden with narrow leads in Ohio, a state Democrats had largely written off heading into the White House contest.

The Schroder campaign’s internal poll, conducted by GQR, surveyed 605 likely voters from June 29-July 2 and has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.98 percent.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/508362-internal-poll-shows-tight-race-brewing-in-key-ohio-house-race

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Re: US 2020 Election - Primary Season
« Reply #3005 on: July 22, 2020, 01:50:37 pm »
Biden, leading Trump by eight points, also has a big advantage with undecided voters: Reuters/Ipsos poll

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The July 15-21 poll found that 46% of registered voters said they would back Biden in the Nov. 3 election, while 38% would vote for Republican Trump. The remaining 16% are either undecided, plan to support a third-party candidate or may not vote.

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Reuters/Ipsos polling in 2016 found that support was evenly split that summer between Trump and then Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton among registered voters who had not backed a major party candidate. On Election Day, Trump won a majority of voters who said they decided in the final week.

This year, the poll found that 61% of undecided or third-party registered voters said they would support Biden if they had to choose, while 39% would vote for Trump.


Seventy percent of undecided or third-party registered voters say they disapprove of Trump’s performance in office and the same number said they think the country is headed on the wrong track. And 62% said they thought the U.S. economy was headed in the wrong direction.

This group also appears to be deeply concerned about the novel coronavirus, which has killed more than 141,000 Americans and forced millions out of work as businesses closed in an effort to slow the spread of the virus.

About 8 in 10 said they were personally concerned about the spread of the virus. When asked about the most important factor driving their decision to vote, 34% - a plurality - said they were looking for a candidate who has “a robust plan to help the nation recover.”

Another 24% said they were looking for someone who can “restore trust in American government” and 12% said they wanted a candidate who is “strong on healthcare.”

Registered voters have consistently ranked Biden as the better candidate when it comes to all three.

The Reuters/Ipsos poll also showed that only 38% of the public supports Trump’s handling of the coronavirus, including 20% of undecided or third-party registered voters.

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The Reuters/Ipsos poll was conducted online, in English, throughout the United States. It gathered responses from 4,430 American adults, including 3,744 registered voters, and 595 registered voters who had not supported a major-party candidate.

It has a credibility interval, a measure of precision, of about 2 percentage points for the entire group and 5 points for the undecided or third-party voters.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-poll/biden-leading-trump-by-eight-points-also-has-a-big-advantage-with-undecided-voters-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSKCN24N1AY

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Re: US 2020 Election - Primary Season
« Reply #3006 on: July 22, 2020, 04:00:10 pm »
I'd say the way Biden's campaign is managing his social media is on point.

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Re: US 2020 Election - Primary Season
« Reply #3007 on: July 22, 2020, 04:11:05 pm »
Dave Grohl, in Variety...

https://variety.com/2020/music/news/foo-fighters-dave-grohl-teachers-trump-reopen-schools-1234713165/

"I wouldn’t trust the U.S. secretary of percussion to tell me how to play ‘Smells Like Teen Spirit’ if they had never sat behind a drum set, so why should any teacher trust Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos to tell them how to teach, without her ever having sat at the head of a class? (Maybe she should switch to the drums.)"

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Re: US 2020 Election - Primary Season
« Reply #3008 on: July 23, 2020, 02:13:09 am »
Yes. Yes you have.

Everyone expects Republicans to be dirty. Democrats are held to a higher standard.  That's why Al Franken resigned where a GOP senator would have rode it out.

That said, I fully expect Bill Maher to make a blistering defence of her and blast wishy washy liberals' cancel culture.
Thats the thing with The Left they devour their own when they don't live up to whatever they perceive to be the ideal.

As for nepotism and her promises of draining the swamp. The proof of the pudding will be her Husbands pr company getting her re-elected
Given all the outrageous amount of b*llshit I've heard said about her ( not on here but think Dianne Abbot volumes of abuse ) he's certainly got his work cut out.
If we want to judge nepotism, we have to judge competency too.   

Beyond that I thought the story was a bit tabloid and right leaning so it came as no surprise when I just googled it...
It's a f*cking Howling Mad Murdoch Rag. 
In which case Lone Star might of been refering to the so called journalist Ebony Whatevername having the gall to judge anyone on moral issues  ( long shot I know )
You can be a journalist or you can work for Murdock, you can't be both.

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It''s a shame the leaders of either party don't feel obliged to make or live up to the same kind of pledges. 
   
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Re: US 2020 Election - Primary Season
« Reply #3009 on: July 23, 2020, 01:30:52 pm »
Biden with a 1 point lead in Texas.

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2020 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION

In the race for the White House, 45 percent of voters support former Vice President Joe Biden, while 44 percent back President Trump. That compares to early June when the race was equally tight and voters backed Trump 44 percent to Biden's 43 percent. In today's survey, Democrats back Biden 94 - 3 percent, independents back Biden 51 - 32 percent and Republicans back Trump 89 - 6 percent.

"With crises swirling through American society and a country deeply divided, there's no other way to slice it. It's a tossup in Texas," Malloy added.

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CORONAVIRUS RESPONSE

Voters are split on the way Governor Abbott is handling the response to the coronavirus with 47 percent approving and 48 percent disapproving. It's a 21-point swing in the net approval from early June when 56 percent of voters approved and 36 percent disapproved.

In contrast, there isn't much change in the way voters in Texas view President Trump's handling of the response to the coronavirus. Texas voters approve, a negative 45 - 52 percent, compared to June's 47 - 51 percent approval.

JOB APPROVALS

Governor Abbott: Voters approve with a split 48 - 44 percent of the job Governor Abbott is doing, a 20- point swing in the net approval from June when voters approved 56 - 32 percent.

President Trump: President Trump receives a negative 45 - 51 percent job approval rating, virtually unchanged from a month ago.

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880 self-identified registered voters in Texas were surveyed from July 16 - 20 with a margin of error of +/- 3.3 percentage points.

https://poll.qu.edu/texas/release-detail?ReleaseID=3667

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Re: US 2020 Election - Primary Season
« Reply #3010 on: July 23, 2020, 03:53:45 pm »
Poll: Biden leads Trump by 6 points in Florida

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The survey, conducted by St. Pete Polls for the website Florida Politics and AARP Florida, shows Biden garnering 50 percent of the vote in the Sunshine State, while Trump trails with 44 percent. That’s a notable improvement for Biden over St. Pete Polls’ last survey of the presidential race in Florida in late May, which showed the two candidates in a statistical tie.

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Since May, Biden has picked up significant support from Florida independents, according to the poll. He now carries the support of 53 percent of independents in the state compared to the 39 percent who back Trump. In May, Biden led Trump among independents 47 percent to 44 percent.

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The survey from St. Pete Poll is based on responses from 3,018 likely Florida voters and was conducted from July 13-14. It has a margin of error of 1.8 percentage points.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/508669-poll-biden-leads-trump-by-6-points-in-florida

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Re: US 2020 Election - Primary Season
« Reply #3011 on: July 23, 2020, 08:16:58 pm »
Good lord!

Biden holds 13-point lead over Trump in Florida: poll

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Presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden has opened up a 13-point lead over President Trump in the key battleground state of Florida, according to a new poll.

The former vice president leads Trump 51 percent to 38 percent in the latest Quinnipiac poll released Thursday, a sharp increase since Florida voters were last surveyed by the pollster in April, when Biden led Trump 46 percent to 42 percent.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/508729-biden-has-double-digit-lead-over-trump-in-florida-poll

DeSantis' numbers are terrible too.

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The poll surveyed 924 registered Florida voters July 16-20. It has a margin of error of 3.2 percentage points.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/508738-desantis-approval-on-virus-plunges-poll

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Re: US 2020 Election - Primary Season
« Reply #3012 on: July 23, 2020, 11:12:19 pm »
Good lord!

Biden holds 13-point lead over Trump in Florida: poll

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/508729-biden-has-double-digit-lead-over-trump-in-florida-poll

DeSantis' numbers are terrible too.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/508738-desantis-approval-on-virus-plunges-poll

Some good that'll do Floridians. I wonder how many fewer people could have died in that state if he wasn't currently governor. But then again they did elect him, so... :/ It's a shame that he'll be governor for a few more years even if his approval rating plummets to Trump-levels.

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Re: US 2020 Election - Primary Season
« Reply #3013 on: July 24, 2020, 12:09:19 am »
@kylegriffin1
Fox News polls:

Michigan
Biden 49%
Trump 40%

Minnesota
Biden 51%
Trump 38%

Pennsylvania
Biden 50%
Trump 39%
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Re: US 2020 Election - Primary Season
« Reply #3014 on: July 24, 2020, 12:31:27 am »
@kylegriffin1
Fox News polls:

Michigan
Biden 49%
Trump 40%

Minnesota
Biden 51%
Trump 38%

Pennsylvania
Biden 50%
Trump 39%

Fox News is fake news.

Trump's internal polling:

Michigan
Michigan Man of the Year Trump:  70%
Sleepy Joe:  30%

Minnesota
High IQ Trump:  80%
Fake News Joe:  20%

Pennsylvania
Stable Genius Cognitive Test Acer Trump:  90%
Loser Biden:  10%

Fake News like Fox News won't conduct this real polling.
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Re: US 2020 Election - Primary Season
« Reply #3015 on: July 24, 2020, 10:33:48 am »
Trump's polling roughly on par with George Bush senior at the moment.
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Re: US 2020 Election - Primary Season
« Reply #3016 on: July 24, 2020, 08:23:08 pm »
Given how Biden has been in his basement for much of the pandemic (sensibly), how come Trump has gone with the rubbish sounding "Sleepy Joe" and not "Hidin' Biden"?
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Re: US 2020 Election - Primary Season
« Reply #3017 on: July 24, 2020, 09:12:16 pm »
Speaking of him, where has the Trump thread gone?  ???

edit: Nevermind, the name change completely threw me off ;D
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Re: US 2020 Election - Primary Season
« Reply #3018 on: July 24, 2020, 09:46:31 pm »
Speaking of him, where has the Trump thread gone?  ???

edit: Nevermind, the name change completely threw me off ;D

Same! ;D

Given how Biden has been in his basement for much of the pandemic (sensibly), how come Trump has gone with the rubbish sounding "Sleepy Joe" and not "Hidin' Biden"?

Maybe because people will just shout "Bunker Boy" at Trump even louder.
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Re: US 2020 Election - Primary Season
« Reply #3019 on: July 25, 2020, 06:14:38 am »
Trump (v Biden) Donors

Texas +30,000
Florida +15,000
Oklahoma +8,300
Arizona +8,000
Alabama +8,000
Louisiana +7,400
Tennessee +6,000
Mississippi +5,300
South Carolina +5,000
Nevada +4,000
Kentucky +3,000
Arkansas +3,000

It's like the civil War never ended

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/07/24/us/politics/trump-biden-campaign-donors.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage


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Re: US 2020 Election - Primary Season
« Reply #3020 on: July 27, 2020, 02:36:33 pm »
Speakers for new scaled down Republican Convention:

https://twitter.com/HoarseWisperer/status/1287709690705719297

What a freak show. ;D
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Re: US 2020 Election - Primary Season
« Reply #3021 on: July 27, 2020, 03:59:38 pm »
Speakers for new scaled down Republican Convention:

https://twitter.com/HoarseWisperer/status/1287709690705719297

What a freak show. ;D

James Woods is soooo pissed that he didn't make the cut.  I mean, the guy who's last real job was Bob Loblaw with his law blog got picked ahead of him. 
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Re: US 2020 Election - Primary Season
« Reply #3022 on: July 27, 2020, 04:24:57 pm »
Trump (v Biden) Donors

Texas +30,000
Florida +15,000
Oklahoma +8,300
Arizona +8,000
Alabama +8,000
Louisiana +7,400
Tennessee +6,000
Mississippi +5,300
South Carolina +5,000
Nevada +4,000
Kentucky +3,000
Arkansas +3,000

It's like the civil War never ended

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/07/24/us/politics/trump-biden-campaign-donors.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
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Re: US 2020 Election - Primary Season
« Reply #3023 on: July 27, 2020, 06:53:08 pm »
Speakers for new scaled down Republican Convention:

https://twitter.com/HoarseWisperer/status/1287709690705719297

What a freak show. ;D


sadly that is a satirical post, but I bet the real list will be no better!

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Re: US 2020 Election - Primary Season
« Reply #3024 on: July 28, 2020, 07:54:53 am »

Here’s how Trump’s opposition to mail voting hurts the GOP

Republicans once dominated voting by mail in Florida. But that was before President Donald Trump got involved.

After months of hearing Trump denigrate mail-in balloting, Republicans in the critical battleground state now find themselves far behind Democrats in the perennial push to urge their voters to cast ballots remotely. While Democrats have doubled the number of their voters who have requested mail ballots compared to 2016, Republicans have increased their numbers by about 20% since the same time.

The recent tally is the hard evidence confirming many Republicans’ fears about Trump’s tweeting about mail-in voting: GOP voters are listening and appear less likely to take advantage of what many election and health officials agree is the easiest and safest way to vote in a pandemic.

The numbers are so clear that Florida Republicans are shifting their emphasis from years past and are now trying to persuade voters to use another alternative to Election Day voting: in-person early voting.

“Did the president’s tweet cause it? Maybe a little bit, but it’s been shifting for years now,” said Susie Wiles, who has been tapped by the Trump campaign to help buoy the president’s newly troubled Florida campaign. “If COVID is still the level of concern that it is now, early vote is, after absentee, probably the next best option.”

Political campaigns in both parties typically push their voters to cast ballots by mail because they can bank votes for their side in advance, freeing up scarce resources to chase down less-frequent voters and turn them out by Election Day. Amid the coronavirus, that push has become all the more urgent.

But while Democrats have tried to expand access to voting by mail, Republicans have struggled with what to tell their voters. Some have pushed for it, while Trump and his allies at the Republican National Committee have tried to limit expansion of remote voting.

Increasingly, GOP operatives and officials are voicing their concerns with that strategy. “Why give Democrats 10 or 11 days to vote and expect Republicans to vote on one day?” asked Rohn Bishop, Republican Party chair in Fond du Lac County, Wisconsin. “It puts us at a disadvantage.”

Trump has called mail ballots “corrupt” and “substantially fraudulent,” even though the five states that now send ballots to all voters have had no signs of substantial fraud. Despite the p

Trump’s own campaign isn’t heeding his warning. It continues to encourage its voters to sign up for mail ballots when possible — even as the RNC is fighting in court against Democratic efforts to further expand mail voting and issuing statements like one last week saying the expansion has led “to delays, disaster and dysfunction.”

That’s led the GOP to make some political contortions. In Florida, state Republicans recently sent a mailer urging their party members to request mail ballots. It included part of a tweet from Trump saying, “Absentee ballots are fine because you have to go through a precise process to get your ballot.”

But the mailer did not include the rest of the president’s tweet: “Mail-In Voting, on the other hand, will lead to the most corrupt Election in USA history.”

In most states, there is no difference between absentee and mail-in voting.

Democrats are chortling. “It’s something to watch the President just torch 30 years of @FloridaGOP superiority in Florida on vote by mail with each and every tweet,” Steve Schale, a veteran Florida Democratic operative who runs a super PAC for Trump’s Democratic challenger, Joe Biden, tweeted Sunday after another Trump tweet denigrating mail ballots.

It’s not just Florida where Republicans are facing a gap. In North Carolina, another swing state where the GOP once dominated absentee voting, Republicans also cherry-picked a Trump tweet in a mailer pleading with their voters to request mail ballots.

North Carolina Republicans have requested about 50% more ballots than in 2016, but Democrats have asked for a whopping seven times more absentee ballots.

In Pennsylvania, another presidential battleground, more than 1 million Democrats voted by mail in that state’s June primary compared to just fewer than 400,000 Republicans, according to data from the Pennsylvania secretary of state’s office.

In the Georgia primary the following week, the gap continued — Democrats outvoted Republicans by 182,000 ballots out of 2.1 million cast.

While some Republicans argue that Democrats were more motivated to vote because they had a contested presidential primary, Iowa held a primary the same month well after its February presidential caucuses. In that primary, 24% more Democrats than Republicans voted by mail, and more Democrats voted overall even though the two parties have an almost equal number of registered voters there.

In Michigan, where the Democratic secretary of state sent absentee ballot applications to all voters, Trump supporters last month set their own applications on fire.

Glen Bolger, a veteran Republican pollster, warned that his swing state polling finds a huge partisan gap in desire to vote by mail.

“Waiting for Election Day for most of your voters to cast their votes — what if there’s really bad weather or long lines?” Bolger said. “It just makes it harder for state and local parties to do their jobs.”

Still, the lack of GOP interest in voting by mail has made Bishop worried about numerous down-ballot races in Wisconsin that depend on the presidential election driving mail ballot turnout. It’s hard for Republicans to find early in-person options in his remote corner of the state, and no one knows how easy it will be to access the polls there in November.

Bishop said that after he started tweeting about the problem in May, he was told the administration wasn’t happy with him, but some Wisconsin Republicans have stood by him.

“The president, how he’s talked about this hasn’t been very helpful,” said Wisconsin Assembly Majority Leader Jim Steineke. “The absentee ballot system here in Wisconsin is safe and responsible and should be used as much as possible during a pandemic.”

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« Reply #3025 on: July 30, 2020, 07:44:11 pm »

Herman Cain, former Republican presidential candidate, dies aged 74

Cain, who tested positive for Covid-19 in early July, has died of coronavirus, his team announces on his website


Herman Cain, a 2012 Republican presidential candidate and ardent supporter of Donald Trump, has died of coronavirus, his team announced on his website on Thursday.

Cain, 74, had been ill with the virus for several weeks and was in a high-risk group due to his history with cancer. It is unclear when or where he was infected, but he was hospitalised less than two weeks after attending the US president’s campaign rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma, on 20 June.

Cain, who co-chaired Black Voices for Trump, was photographed at the event without a face mask and not physically distancing from other supporters. Public health officials had warned that the rally could put lives at risk and eight Trump campaign staffers tested positive for Covid-19.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/30/herman-cain-former-republican-presidential-candidate-dies-coronavirus
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« Reply #3026 on: July 30, 2020, 09:57:59 pm »
Joe Biden is winning any election that takes place. I'd bet my house on it and eat my hat if it doesn't happen. However, given the various ambiguities surrounding he US constitution and the absolute madman that currently occupies the White House, I've no idea what would happen after that.

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« Reply #3027 on: July 30, 2020, 09:59:29 pm »
Joe Biden is winning any election that takes place. I'd bet my house on it and eat my hat if it doesn't happen. However, given the various ambiguities surrounding he US constitution and the absolute madman that currently occupies the White House, I've no idea what would happen after that.

Can you share some pics of your house please?

Seriously though, underestimate the bible belt at your peril - they will vote for 45 in their droves.
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« Reply #3028 on: July 31, 2020, 01:02:15 am »
Can you share some pics of your house please?

Seriously though, underestimate the bible belt at your peril - they will vote for 45 in their droves.

The bible belt isn't enough to get him reelected. It wasn't enough to get him elected in the first place, but other events and circumstances fell into place and went his way and he won by the skin of his teeth.

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« Reply #3029 on: July 31, 2020, 02:01:05 am »

Welcome back to Texas, Mr. President. We need to talk.


Welcome back to Texas, President Trump.

We wish you the best on your visit Wednesday to Midland, the one-time home of former Presidents George H.W. and George W. Bush, both West Texas wildcatters in their younger days.

What better place for your first oil rig tour than the legendary Permian Basin, which has been producing oil, gas and jobs for the state and nation’s economy for almost 100 years?

The White House says you will use the stop at Double Eagle Energy to highlight how your administration has helped the United States achieve “energy dominance by cutting regulations, simplifying permitting and encouraging private investment in energy infrastructure.”

Members of the industry, along with other supporters from the Midland-Odessa area, are expected to join you earlier in the day at a fundraising luncheon for the Republican Party and your re-election campaign to show their appreciation.

There is no reason to think that your 16th presidential visit to the state won’t be well-received by those on your itinerary. But there are a growing number of Texans you won’t encounter who are struggling to survive through the coronavirus pandemic, the economic collapse and the weight of keeping food on the table and a roof over their heads.

Things have only gotten worse since you last visited in June.

No one is as resilient as Texans when it comes to dealing with disasters and coping with a booming economy that suddenly goes bust but we have suffered from unwise and inconsistent leadership.

Instead, we got cheerleading on reopening businesses, slow testing results and a feckless contact-tracing program.

It was a dismal failure. How do we know?

When you visited Dallas back on June 11, Texas was leading the stampede to reopen for business, spurred on by Gov. Greg Abbott’s aggressive plans and your administration’s false assurances that the outbreaks were “under control.”


At the time, the United States had reported a little more than 2 million confirmed cases and almost 114,000 deaths. Texas was reporting about 85,000 cases and 2,000 deaths. Seven weeks later, as Air Force One descends on the Lone Star State, the United States has more than 4 million cases. America is closing in on 150,000 dead — nearly the population of Midland.

Texas alone has almost 400,000 confirmed cases and nearly 6,000 deaths attributed to COVID-19.

Abbott finally began to reverse course in early July by closing bars and issuing a mandatory face mask order, which came just two weeks before you, Mr. President, at long-last deigned to wear a face-covering in public and half-heartedly recommend that others do the same.

You can’t take Texas for granted this time. We know you don’t put much stock in independent polls, Mr. President, but a consensus is growing that Texans are losing confidence that you are the person to lead the nation out of the canyon that you and your administration have helped dig.

A Morning Consult poll released Monday night shows presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden leading 47-45 in Texas less than 100 days from the Nov. 3 election. An average of five recent polls shows the race as a dead heat in a reliably Republican state that you won by just 9 points in 2016.

The signs are pointing to a level of disenchantment in the state that can’t be addressed by a photo-op on an oil rig. The hashtag #TrumpKillsTexas began trending on Tuesday just ahead of the presidential visit.

One important thing you could do on your visit, Mr. President, is to make an unequivocal commitment to improved testing, social-distancing and getting your followers in the Republican Party to give up their rebellion to Gov. Abbott’s face-mask order. We are almost certain you won’t, but that would be a good start to something resembling leadership.

Energy policy is important to Texans but so are lives and livelihoods. We can’t “drill, baby, drill” if we’re “dead, baby dead.”


https://www.houstonchronicle.com/opinion/editorials/article/Editorial-Welcome-back-to-Texas-President-Trump-15440564.php

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Re: US 2020 Election - Primary Season
« Reply #3030 on: July 31, 2020, 02:27:54 am »
Weird dynamic to the undermining of confidence in the results. Banal to point out Trump's motivations. But the response of the GOP will be interesting. Results which trickle through down ballot which will be bad enough for Trump to remove doubt would seem likely to help fuel the institutional GOP's attitude against accepting them. Strange times.
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« Reply #3031 on: August 1, 2020, 12:45:20 pm »
I'm not sure why the Democrats are dicking around re: the VP choice. I'm sorry, but if some need to be 'inspired' to vote at this point then God help these purity politics types. Given Biden's age and the problems the U.S. are facing, competence, experience and  knowledge of how the system functions are the most important qualities

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« Reply #3032 on: August 2, 2020, 09:11:43 am »
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« Reply #3033 on: August 2, 2020, 04:24:11 pm »
Worth sharing in here too.  Lincoln Project going after Susan Collins.

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« Reply #3034 on: August 2, 2020, 09:47:11 pm »
James Clyburn: Trump doesn't plan to 'give up the office'

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House Majority Whip James Clyburn, D-S.C., on Sunday defended his recent comments saying President Trump “thinks that the American people will be duped by him, like the people of Germany was duped by Adolf Hitler.”

“I feel very strongly that this man has taken on strong-arm tactics. And I feel very strongly that he is [Italian dictator Benito] Mussolini, [Russian President Vladimir] Putin is Hitler,” Clyburn said during an interview on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

Clyburn, the No. 3 House Democrat and a key backer of presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden, noted that he has for years been comparing Trump to history’s strongmen and warning that the president does not plan to leave office. (In 2018, Clyburn said: “If I were making that comparison, then this president would be Mussolini and Putin would be Hitler.”)

On Friday, Clyburn told PBS: “I have been saying now for about three years that this president doesn’t plan to have an election. He’s not planning to give up the office.”

Trump provoked a new round of hand-wringing last week when he speculated about delaying the November election. Trump doesn’t have the ability to move Election Day. That power rests with Congress, where leaders of both parties quickly and uniformly dismissed the idea.

He floated the idea amid his latest barrage against mail-in voting, which he has repeatedly and baselessly claimed will lead to widespread election fraud. Many states have moved to expand mail-in voting to counter the risks of in-person voting amid the coronavirus. 

Trump has also sought to draw a contrast between mail-in and absentee voting, which are the same thing in most states. Trump has voted by mail himself from the White House.

“With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history,” Trump tweeted Thursday. “It will be a great embarrassment to the USA. Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote???”

On Sunday, Clyburn connected Trump’s attacks on the voting processes to a broader effort to undermine confidence in the election.

“I believe that he plans to install himself in some kind of emergency way to continue to hold on to office,” he said on CNN. “And that is why the American people had better wake up. I know a little bit about history, and I know how countries find their demise. It is when we fail to let democracy, and the fundamentals of which is a fair, unfettered election.”

He added: “And that’s why he is trying to put a cloud over this election, floating the idea of postponing the elections.”

https://news.yahoo.com/clyburn-trump-election-delay-mussolini-163630617.html

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Re: US 2020 Election - Primary Season
« Reply #3035 on: August 4, 2020, 11:45:01 am »
James Clyburn: Trump doesn't plan to 'give up the office'


At the end of the day, I believe even die-hard Republicans do not want the Republic to fall. Or to be seen as a disintegrated mess, at a time when Covid-19 is punching them to the ropes already.

If Joe can keep quiet and stay healthy, maybe just maybe Trump gets kicked out of town by a clear and decisive margin. That would be better than any alternative.
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« Reply #3036 on: August 4, 2020, 04:47:51 pm »
At the end of the day, I believe even die-hard Republicans do not want the Republic to fall. Or to be seen as a disintegrated mess, at a time when Covid-19 is punching them to the ropes already.

If Joe can keep quiet and stay healthy, maybe just maybe Trump gets kicked out of town by a clear and decisive margin. That would be better than any alternative.

I'm not so sure anymore. Two or three years ago I would have agreed with you; I would have said that most Republicans were only "going along" with him for the sake of their own political futures. Either they were up for re-election and needed his help, wanted to cozy up to the President, or reasons such as those. But after his recent comments on everything ranging from injecting yourself with disinfectant to threatening to tear up the Constitution and do as he pleases (i.e. postponing or canceling the election), I really do think that it's best to accept that many Republicans in positions of power - whether it's in local and state legislatures, Congress or the Senate - are reflective of a good portion of the American population and are just as batshit crazy as they are.

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« Reply #3037 on: August 4, 2020, 05:18:29 pm »
Nobody’s bringing down the republic for this guy.  It would need the civil service and the military to go along with it and that’s not happening.  Surely they’ll try some spurious legal jiggery-pokery à la 2000 if the election’s a cliffhanger, but that would happen anyway.  If it’s the disaster we’re hoping for, under the bus goes Trump, they’ll wash their hands of him as best they can.

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« Reply #3038 on: August 4, 2020, 05:23:48 pm »
Nobody’s bringing down the republic for this guy.  It would need the civil service and the military to go along with it and that’s not happening.  Surely they’ll try some spurious legal jiggery-pokery à la 2000 if the election’s a cliffhanger, but that would happen anyway.  If it’s the disaster we’re hoping for, under the bus goes Trump, they’ll wash their hands of him as best they can.

Bill Barr, Lindsey Graham, Susan Collins, Mitch McConnell, Ted Cruz, Jim Jordan, Matt Gaetz among others sure as hell seem quite intent on doing so as best they can.

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« Reply #3039 on: August 4, 2020, 05:32:45 pm »
Republicans are used to more underhanded tactics to what Trump employs.  They quietly purge voter registers, make it very difficult for people to vote, gerrymander etc.  They work in the shadows, in a manner most mainstream news networks rarely highlight.  They're also adept at looking for loopholes; if there's not a specific rule forbidding it, you can bet your mortgage they'll look to find a way under, over or through it.

Trump's putting them in a binary choice position: either accept the election results, or try to find a flimsy legal pretext to back what would be an open power grab, in flagrant defiance of the spirit of the constitution. 

There will be no middle ground on this choice; the party that has repeatedly blocked electoral reforms and bills designed to prevent tampering with the democratic process will have to accuse the opposition of rigging an election.  It's coup territory that will trigger massive civil unrest, and a confrontation which you know Trump is just itching for so he can show the world what a strong man he is.

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