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Re: Shifting CEO standards? Coco the Clown vs Easy Rider
« Reply #400 on: November 10, 2012, 02:53:15 am »
Well, they did solve the impending bankruptcy that they inherited. Oh and are well underway on solving the inflated wage bill. And have carried on increasing the commercial side a huge amount. Isn't any infighting now either as before.

So wouldn't say haven't solved any of the problems as yet.
Bankruptcy solved in the acquisition....as for wage bill and commercial side, solved? I do not think so, maybe over time they will, but at what cost? We continue to struggle with an uncompetitive squad and you think we will be successful on and off the pitch?

Again, you believe we are even close to being a well run club with a clear and positive strategy in place at boardroom and football levels with the best people in place to achieve the targets set? Is Ayre positively achieving the aims of the club, and more importantly is he capable of achieving them? Has he demonstrated his credentials sufficiently?
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Re: Shifting CEO standards? Coco the Clown vs Easy Rider
« Reply #401 on: November 10, 2012, 10:43:02 am »
Ayre gives off the profile of a particular style of salesman - appears to be more driven by ego, and transparency isnt always what he will use to convince or "sell".  I think this can sometimes be a successful profile for CEO but it doesnt sit right with us or where we are at.
So what we are lacking that we would see as LFC CEO profile?  For me - apart from  the foundation of being a real football man, I think we would like accountability, integrity, transparency, modesty (if only), drive and organisation. 
Example - regardless of whether we "think" Ayre is responsible for Suarezgate etc. we would expect the CEO to take accountability.  That simple step would have started to clear it up much more quickly.  When no-one is accountable blame fills the space. 
It doesnt feel right with the top of the club just yet - This is still a work in progress and key to resolve for any sustained success.
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Re: Shifting CEO standards? Coco the Clown vs Easy Rider
« Reply #402 on: November 10, 2012, 12:46:05 pm »
Ayre gives off the profile of a particular style of salesman - appears to be more driven by ego, and transparency isnt always what he will use to convince or "sell".  I think this can sometimes be a successful profile for CEO but it doesnt sit right with us or where we are at.
So what we are lacking that we would see as LFC CEO profile?  For me - apart from  the foundation of being a real football man, I think we would like accountability, integrity, transparency, modesty (if only), drive and organisation. 
Example - regardless of whether we "think" Ayre is responsible for Suarezgate etc. we would expect the CEO to take accountability.  That simple step would have started to clear it up much more quickly.  When no-one is accountable blame fills the space. 
It doesnt feel right with the top of the club just yet - This is still a work in progress and key to resolve for any sustained success.

Top post. Sums up the situation perfectly. Ayre is a stranger to accountability and transparency.
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Re: Shifting CEO standards? Coco the Clown vs Easy Rider
« Reply #403 on: December 4, 2012, 04:09:52 pm »
Example - regardless of whether we "think" Ayre is responsible for Suarezgate etc. we would expect the CEO to take accountability.  That simple step would have started to clear it up much more quickly.  When no-one is accountable blame fills the space. 
Exactly right. Imagine if Ayre had publicly said, "I am responsible for the club's response to this." The pressure on Kenny and the players could've lifted overnight. If that's not his job, why not?
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Re: Shifting CEO standards? Coco the Clown vs Easy Rider
« Reply #404 on: December 4, 2012, 06:29:18 pm »
Simple question Would any other top club have somebody like Ian Easyrider Ayre as its CEO/MD, whatever false title they give him.
A world were Liars and Hypocrites are accepted and rewarded and honest people are derided!
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Re: Shifting CEO standards? Coco the Clown vs Easy Rider
« Reply #405 on: December 4, 2012, 06:30:29 pm »
Simple question Would any other top club have somebody like Ian Easyrider Ayre as its CEO/MD, whatever false title they give him.
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Re: Shifting CEO standards? Coco the Clown vs Easy Rider
« Reply #406 on: December 4, 2012, 06:55:34 pm »
Also say what you like about Coco he has more credibility in the halls of the FA than Ayre.
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Re: Shifting CEO standards? Coco the Clown vs Easy Rider
« Reply #407 on: January 9, 2013, 03:11:06 pm »
For all of his faults, Coco can spot a good manager. Still, I would take Ayre over him any day of the week.

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Re: Shifting CEO standards? Coco the Clown vs Easy Rider
« Reply #408 on: January 9, 2013, 04:17:34 pm »
For all of his faults, Coco can spot a good manager. Still, I would take Ayre over him any day of the week.

Shame Coco couldnt spot decent owners though!
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Re: Shifting CEO standards? Coco the Clown vs Easy Rider
« Reply #409 on: January 9, 2013, 04:24:27 pm »
Example - regardless of whether we "think" Ayre is responsible for Suarezgate etc. we would expect the CEO to take accountability.  That simple step would have started to clear it up much more quickly.  When no-one is accountable blame fills the space. 
Absolutely not, if he had come in and overruled Kenny there would have been hell to pay. He let the Manager deal with it and the Manager messed it up.   

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Re: Shifting CEO standards? Coco the Clown vs Easy Rider
« Reply #410 on: January 9, 2013, 04:57:47 pm »
Absolutely not, if he had come in and overruled Kenny there would have been hell to pay. He let the Manager deal with it and the Manager messed it up.   
What utter bullshit. Should never have been a chance to 'overrule Kenny' as Kenny shouldn't have been left to handle it in the first place.

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Re: Shifting CEO standards? Coco the Clown vs Easy Rider
« Reply #411 on: January 9, 2013, 06:46:59 pm »
well when his mates in the press start suggesting he is doing too much and is totally out of his depth, surely the argument about him is nearly done!
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Re: Shifting CEO standards? Coco the Clown vs Easy Rider
« Reply #412 on: January 9, 2013, 08:37:47 pm »
For all of his faults, Coco can spot a good manager. Still, I would take Ayre over him any day of the week.

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Re: Shifting CEO standards? Coco the Clown vs Easy Rider
« Reply #413 on: January 9, 2013, 10:57:24 pm »
What utter bullshit. Should never have been a chance to 'overrule Kenny' as Kenny shouldn't have been left to handle it in the first place.
If he had done there'd be moaning about leaving it to the Manager to run the team and how the Chief Exec should only be there to sign cheques.

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Re: Shifting CEO standards? Coco the Clown vs Easy Rider
« Reply #414 on: January 10, 2013, 09:38:36 am »
If he had done there'd be moaning about leaving it to the Manager to run the team and how the Chief Exec should only be there to sign cheques.

Really? So a chief executive should not be involved in the biggest public relations issue the club has faced in a number of years (ignoring ownership and owner related issues) from the beginning? The club should be dealing with a matter of that magnitude with a clear positive strategy, presenting a clear common view.....something that we did not given the distancing from the handling of the matter by the owners and Ayre. Whether dalglish handled it correctly or not, and even whether he should have been or not, Ayre should have been in on this from the ground floor.
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Re: Shifting CEO standards? Coco the Clown vs Easy Rider
« Reply #415 on: January 14, 2013, 02:15:56 am »
I mentioned in another thread that It seems as though at commercial level Ayre has done his job but doesn't mean he should be in charge of football decisions a football man should be in charge there not a commercial sales man.

Just look at Levy at spurs he is a CEO who understands football and has a vision how to take a club forward aswell as identifying targets and successfully negotiating.

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