Author Topic: HBO's The Watchmen (Read 9477 times)

BarryCrocker · « **Reply #40 on:** November 12, 2019, 05:58:39 am »

Quote from: Something Worse on November 11, 2019, 04:32:23 pm

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he isn't dead? They just think he is but she knows better no?
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But if they believed he died as a child how were they able to link him to her? He would have had to have fathered a child to get a grandchild.

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Agent99 · « **Reply #41 on:** November 12, 2019, 01:10:41 pm »

I think it's been great so far. Ms Crookshanks is also lovely.

Buck Pete · « **Reply #42 on:** November 12, 2019, 01:15:56 pm »

Quote from: Agent99 on November 12, 2019, 01:10:41 pm

I think it's been great so far. Ms Crookshanks is also lovely.

I thought the exact same thing

I'd say she possesses quintessential English beauty but the actress who plays her is from Scotland

Something Worse · « **Reply #43 on:** November 12, 2019, 04:14:49 pm »

Quote from: BarryCrocker on November 12, 2019, 05:58:39 am

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But if they believed he died as a child how were they able to link him to her? He would have had to have fathered a child to get a grandchild.
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I assumed it's because they test the DNA, and have his on file, and know that the two are connected without realizing that shouldn't be possible. One of those fuck ups computers make all the time.

Macphisto80 · « **Reply #44 on:** November 12, 2019, 11:18:11 pm »

Quote from: Something Worse on November 10, 2019, 11:56:58 pm

The third ties it together much better, I'd recommend doing that one before quitting man.

Yep, will do. As I say, though, Lindelof being involved has me worried it'll end up a convoluted shitfest.

rk1 · « **Reply #45 on:** November 12, 2019, 11:26:53 pm »

Quote from: Macphisto80 on November 12, 2019, 11:18:11 pm

Yep, will do. As I say, though, Lindelof being involved has me worried it'll end up a convoluted shitfest.

Did you see The Leftovers?

Sir Capon of Debaser · « **Reply #46 on:** November 13, 2019, 01:34:29 pm »

Quote from: BarryCrocker on November 12, 2019, 05:58:39 am

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But if they believed he died as a child how were they able to link him to her? He would have had to have fathered a child to get a grandchild.
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thought the same as you but think its the probability from the match in dna which when worded didnt sound right at all

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Agent99 · « **Reply #47 on:** November 18, 2019, 09:48:53 am »

That episode was a cracker.

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I haven't read the graphic novel but at the end of the film Rorschach sends his journal to a newspaper exposing the hoax. In the show it appears that nobody knows it was a hoax

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Macphisto80 · « **Reply #48 on:** November 18, 2019, 03:11:34 pm »

Yeah, I'm warming to it now. Had to do a bit of reading about the comic for it to click. Took me a bit to realise Jeremy Irons was Veidt from the film, but can't recall how he's ended up being where he is now, but his story is the most intriguing, and nuts.

Buck Pete · « **Reply #49 on:** November 18, 2019, 03:17:49 pm »

I’m same as Mac

Even just reading about The Watchmen backstory on WIKI makes this series so much easier to follow and understandable.

Watching Ep5 tonight

Buck Pete · « **Reply #50 on:** November 18, 2019, 08:06:19 pm »

Episode 5 was a good one.

Enjoy how they eek out a bit of the backstory and expand on individual characters during each episode

Red Viper · « **Reply #51 on:** November 19, 2019, 09:20:33 am »

Yeah that was a good episode. Love the Looking Glass guy, think the whole concept of his character is fantastic.

I've heard next weeks episode is a cracker.

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Guessing we'll be getting a trip down memory lane to see the story of Angela's grandad.

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Barefoot Doctor · « **Reply #52 on:** November 19, 2019, 10:54:08 am »

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Angela's grandad has to be Hooded Justice at this point, right? It has to be significant that HJ has been mentioned (or seen) in most episodes, with characters speculating as to his true identity. They're gearing up for a reveal, and Will would be a neat fit, tying firmly into the idea of legacy they're building - him as the first(?) masked superhero and his granddaughter now following a similar path.

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Sir Capon of Debaser · « **Reply #53 on:** November 19, 2019, 11:27:07 am »

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So,if he is Hooded Justice as we all thought,then Laurie for most of her life thought he was her Father from what i remember from the fleem. That was until she learned her mother was raped by the Comedian. So in a bizarre way,shes been kinda related to Angela in her head for most of her life up until she found out he wasnt her dad.

.... Next weeks show looks mental. Getting better and better,this. Love it.

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Casta · « **Reply #54 on:** November 19, 2019, 08:04:27 pm »

After being quite the headf*ck early on this is playing out to be pretty decent actually, last episode was really good.

stoopid yank · « **Reply #55 on:** November 25, 2019, 04:31:41 am »

Hooded Justice episode excellent. Series has been great, best thing on HBO since season 1 of True Detective.

Barefoot Doctor · « **Reply #56 on:** November 25, 2019, 09:46:08 am »

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A lesser series would have treated the Hooded Justice reveal as a massive twist. Instead, we learn really early on in this episode that Will is Hooded Justice, and then get to explore the why.

Alan Sepinwall's analysis is good as always: https://www.rollingstone.com/tv/tv-recaps/watchmen-recap-episode-6-exceptional-being-914283/

Can't get over, six episodes into its debut season, how bold this show is. The Laurie POV episode, last week's journey with Looking Glass and now this black and white trip down memory lane.

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Also read an interview with Lindelof where he says that while he's open to doing more Watchmen, this is intended as a closed season in the vein of True Detective or Fargo. It's going to be a busy final three episodes, although you could easily argue that the plot is a secondary consideration here.

Macphisto80 · « **Reply #57 on:** November 25, 2019, 05:28:12 pm »

Quote from: stoopid yank on November 25, 2019, 04:31:41 am

Hooded Justice episode excellent. Series has been great, best thing on HBO since season 1 of True Detective.

Chernobyl? Westworld (first series)?

Barefoot Doctor · « **Reply #58 on:** November 25, 2019, 06:07:59 pm »

Quote from: Macphisto80 on November 25, 2019, 05:28:12 pm

Chernobyl? Westworld (first series)?

I didn't like Westworld, although admittedly there was some promise in the first season. Think it was hugely guilty of what people feared Watchmen would fall down on, with mysteries for the sake of it. For me, Watchmen is much, much better.

Chernobyl is fair enough, best thing I've seen in ages but don't think you can compare a five-episode limited series based on true events with something like this. Both completely brilliant in different ways.

stoopid yank · « **Reply #59 on:** November 25, 2019, 08:47:39 pm »

Quote from: Macphisto80 on November 25, 2019, 05:28:12 pm

Chernobyl? Westworld (first series)?

Chernobyl was excellent, you are right, but was a short docu- history series

Westworld jumped the shark even by the end of the first season.

Sir Capon of Debaser · « **Reply #60 on:** November 26, 2019, 02:00:02 am »

Superb again

Redcap · « **Reply #61 on:** November 26, 2019, 02:22:51 am »

Quote from: stoopid yank on November 25, 2019, 04:31:41 am

Hooded Justice episode excellent. Series has been great, best thing on HBO since season 1 of True Detective.

Have you watched Succession?

IMO it's the best drama on TV. It's flawless. As good as anything HBO has ever done. Jesse Armstrong, the showrunner, was a key collaborator with Iannuci on all of his shows and a co-creator of Peep Show. The writing is simply tremendous and the ensemble cast is the best since Arrested Development.

I cannot advocate enough for it. I know we're (still) in the golden age of TV but everything else is playing catchup to Succession.

Buck Pete · « **Reply #62 on:** November 26, 2019, 06:57:25 pm »

What an absolutely fabulous episode of TV that was.

A well written and perfectly paced story that looked damn good and was accompanied by a wonderful 1940's soundtrack. This episode really did have everything.

Particularly enjoyed the use of the Ink Spots song "We Three (my echo, my shadow and Me)" as the backing track to the montage showing

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William Reeves/HJ's double life

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The exact same song was used in similar circumstances in an opening episode of 'Better Call Saul' to highlight Jimmy's new identity as Gene in Nebraska.

KillieRed · « **Reply #63 on:** November 29, 2019, 03:44:42 pm »

Yeah, that was an awesome episode in an excellent series.

Something Worse · « **Reply #64 on:** December 2, 2019, 07:03:04 am »

Lindelof you son of a bitch

BarryCrocker · « **Reply #65 on:** December 2, 2019, 10:41:23 am »

WTF was that ending all about?

Anyone know the cover version of the ending song? I've got a tiny bit of the lyrics stuck in my head.

Agent99 · « **Reply #66 on:** December 2, 2019, 05:38:31 pm »

Sweet! Not as good as the previous episodes which is kind of funny as Lindelöf didn't write it.

The music was Life on Mars by David Bowie.

"You do not want to fuck with Sister Night"

Casta · « **Reply #67 on:** December 2, 2019, 07:09:48 pm »

That twist though! 2 Episodes left

Ultimate Bromance · « **Reply #68 on:** December 2, 2019, 10:46:20 pm »

What the fuck

KillieRed · « **Reply #69 on:** December 3, 2019, 08:19:35 am »

Quote from: BarryCrocker on December 2, 2019, 10:41:23 am

WTF was that ending all about?

Anyone know the cover version of the ending song? I've got a tiny bit of the lyrics stuck in my head.

https://pitchfork.com/news/trent-reznor-and-atticus-ross-cover-david-bowies-life-on-mars-for-watchmen-listen/

KillieRed · « **Reply #70 on:** December 3, 2019, 08:24:17 am »

Quote from: KillieRed on December 3, 2019, 08:19:35 am

https://pitchfork.com/news/trent-reznor-and-atticus-ross-cover-david-bowies-life-on-mars-for-watchmen-listen/

On a side note to this; i`ve been listening to Downward Spiral quite a bit lately, what an album. My (now) wife went to the Pretty Hate Machine tour in 1989, it was a pretty small venue. Her and her friend were "asked backstage" after the gig, but had to beg off as her friends dad was coming to pick them up. ROCK`N`ROLL!

Casta · « **Reply #71 on:** December 9, 2019, 12:34:42 pm »

Episode 8 answers loads of questions so far, really really good episode, dont forget to watch the end credits

Red Viper · « **Reply #72 on:** December 9, 2019, 09:48:18 pm »

Another fantastic episode.

BarryCrocker · « **Reply #73 on:** December 10, 2019, 06:05:13 am »

I'm absolutely loving this show so far.

Sir Capon of Debaser · « **Reply #74 on:** December 10, 2019, 11:40:36 am »

Too many willies

Buck Pete · « **Reply #75 on:** December 10, 2019, 02:15:27 pm »

Really enjoyed the last episode and the series as a whole but I’m still a bit confused about the Adrian Veidt story arc.

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Dr M traded the memory thing with Veidt who got to go to Europa In return and become a master.

Not sure why he isn’t allowed to leave though?

Also, how and why did Dr Manhattan seek out Angela in Saigon?

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wampa1 · « **Reply #76 on:** December 10, 2019, 02:19:16 pm »

Quote from: Buck Pete on December 10, 2019, 02:15:27 pm

Really enjoyed the last episode and the series as a whole but I’m still a bit confused about the Adrian Veidt story arc....

Did you watch the after credits bit?

Buck Pete · « **Reply #77 on:** December 10, 2019, 03:14:31 pm »

Quote from: wampa1 on December 10, 2019, 02:19:16 pm

Did you watch the after credits bit?

Yeah i did and that still confused me

What have I missed?

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Actually I'm cool with the Veidt situation now after reading a few recaps

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Veidt, after dreaming of utopia, he discovered being worshipped blindly was boring — he wants to be needed, and thus, he’s trying to get back to Earth, in all its imperfect glory.

Phillips and Crookshanks in all their incarnations love him so much they don't want him to leave.

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Macphisto80 · « **Reply #78 on:** December 10, 2019, 08:11:38 pm »

That was brilliant. Probably the best time travel/paradox writing seen since Back to the Future. No doubt there will be some asshole somewhere on the internet trying to pick out all the plotholes, but as something that just made narrative sense on the screen, that was perfect.

The G in Gerrard · « **Reply #79 on:** December 15, 2019, 09:13:37 pm »

The finale is tonight?