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Re: The Title Race 2023/24- Jurgen's Last Dance
« Reply #5080 on: Yesterday at 02:52:49 pm »
That's champions league done.

Target met.
Not bad to be fair.

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Re: The Title Race 2023/24- Jurgen's Last Dance
« Reply #5081 on: Yesterday at 02:53:01 pm »
That's champions league done.

Target met. 

We’ve been so wobbly recently it made me look over my shoulder at Villa and Spurs unfortunately, and become grateful for 3rd place.
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Re: The Title Race 2023/24- Jurgen's Last Dance
« Reply #5082 on: Yesterday at 02:53:27 pm »
Why is this thread still even here? Should be renamed to getting top 4 finish.

Because some of us haven't thrown in the towel

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Re: The Title Race 2023/24- Jurgen's Last Dance
« Reply #5083 on: Yesterday at 04:57:36 pm »
Because some of us haven't thrown in the towel

I think we all knew by the Palace game.

I did tell someone at the time if we freezed the table after that game and then showed it to us back in August we'd have got very excited. Level on points at the top, 6 games left, with only GD separating us. Problem was living in the now we could see the constant struggles in every game. Wide open midfield defensively, disjointed, inability to grind out wins. Every game was going to be a rollercoaster, and you dont win leagues that way.

I think had Jurgen stayed one more season he'd have finally got the required 6, the midfield would have been up and running (plus the 8s would be fully accustomed to the team), the team would have looked more complete and would have functioned more like a Klopp team.
 

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Re: The Title Race 2023/24- Jurgen's Last Dance
« Reply #5084 on: Yesterday at 06:08:27 pm »
Because some of us haven't thrown in the towel

It's time to throw in the towel.

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Re: The Title Race 2023/24- Jurgen's Last Dance
« Reply #5085 on: Yesterday at 06:12:26 pm »
I think we all knew by the Palace game.

I did tell someone at the time if we freezed the table after that game and then showed it to us back in August we'd have got very excited. Level on points at the top, 6 games left, with only GD separating us. Problem was living in the now we could see the constant struggles in every game. Wide open midfield defensively, disjointed, inability to grind out wins. Every game was going to be a rollercoaster, and you dont win leagues that way.

I think had Jurgen stayed one more season he'd have finally got the required 6, the midfield would have been up and running (plus the 8s would be fully accustomed to the team), the team would have looked more complete and would have functioned more like a Klopp team.
 

All hindsight talk. Our strikers have let us down at the clutch time of the year. That’s the long and short of it. It’s ok to admit the truth - we let an amazing position turn to crap after all the hard work earlier in the year.

If we learn from the experience then it can be the making of us in future years.
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Re: The Title Race 2023/24- Jurgen's Last Dance
« Reply #5086 on: Yesterday at 06:16:52 pm »
I think we all knew by the Palace game.

I did tell someone at the time if we freezed the table after that game and then showed it to us back in August we'd have got very excited. Level on points at the top, 6 games left, with only GD separating us. Problem was living in the now we could see the constant struggles in every game. Wide open midfield defensively, disjointed, inability to grind out wins. Every game was going to be a rollercoaster, and you dont win leagues that way.

I think had Jurgen stayed one more season he'd have finally got the required 6, the midfield would have been up and running (plus the 8s would be fully accustomed to the team), the team would have looked more complete and would have functioned more like a Klopp team.

If we won every game after Palace at best we'd have lost it on goal difference to Arsenal. No way Everton or United would have done us a favour.

Everyone knew we'd fucked it that day.
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Re: The Title Race 2023/24- Jurgen's Last Dance
« Reply #5087 on: Yesterday at 07:12:57 pm »
If we won every game after Palace at best we'd have lost it on goal difference to Arsenal. No way Everton or United would have done us a favour.

Everyone knew we'd fucked it that day.

Absoutely. As gutted as I was though after the Palace game I did think it's a position we would have taken in August. We didn't know what to expect back then, and it's been quite a freakish season in many respects. The Spurs debacle, all those comebacks (the Newcastle game where we had been pummeled for 75), conceding 6 in two games against a gash United at OT, dominating possession but looking vulnerable in every game (bar maybe 5 where we weren't on the edge of our seat), it's been wild.

Putting aside the fact the 6 isnt good enough, we started the season with a completely new midfield (in addition to Jones). As Andy Brassell said on a podcast its unheard of for a top side to do that in one transfer window. So in that context the season has been a massive success. Circa 80 points and a Cup. The shitty thing is Jurgen is leaving, when it was next season, with one obvious upgrade, that would have been the one where were would have looked much more the part. It's one season too soon from Jurgen in that regard (also in regard to the avaibility of Alonso). It's a pity for him that he couldn't complete his next era team and reap the rewards from it, the hope is Slot is the one who will.
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Re: The Title Race 2023/24- Jurgen's Last Dance
« Reply #5088 on: Yesterday at 07:58:27 pm »
Not trying to be some smart arse but I knew after the Brighton game and then United. We were hanging on and clawing games back and looked spent. The other two were scoring for fun. I wasn’t even surprised or annoyed by Palace. The writing was on the wall once they both overtook us and it was pretty obvious we weren’t going to win all of our games even then.

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Re: The Title Race 2023/24- Jurgen's Last Dance
« Reply #5089 on: Yesterday at 08:07:00 pm »
Not trying to be some smart arse but I knew after the Brighton game and then United. We were hanging on and clawing games back and looked spent. The other two were scoring for fun. I wasn’t even surprised or annoyed by Palace. The writing was on the wall once they both overtook us and it was pretty obvious we weren’t going to win all of our games even then.

I thought we were ok against Brighton but that doesnt look anything convincing in retrospect. Its against Sheffield United we didnt look great. Basically we have become poor in both boxes like last season.

Ultimately we cant complain, we are the third best side. Thats fine for now.

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Re: The Title Race 2023/24- Jurgen's Last Dance
« Reply #5090 on: Yesterday at 08:07:06 pm »
Fuck this season really. Another nail in the coffin of football. Cheats winning again. Utter horror show with referees. Mountain of injuries.

That period where we played the kids was the best.

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Re: The Title Race 2023/24- Jurgen's Last Dance
« Reply #5091 on: Yesterday at 08:13:21 pm »
Ultimately we cant complain, we are the third best side. Thats fine for now.
Second or third makes no odds as I never expected us to win the PL. Making the Europa League Final in Dublin however... *sigh*
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Re: The Title Race 2023/24- Jurgen's Last Dance
« Reply #5092 on: Yesterday at 08:14:51 pm »
Honestly if I was given at the statrt of the season that we would Win a Cup and qualify for the CL I would have taken it.
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Re: The Title Race 2023/24- Jurgen's Last Dance
« Reply #5093 on: Yesterday at 08:20:42 pm »
Honestly if I was given at the statrt of the season that we would Win a Cup and in doing so, automatically qualify for the CL I would have taken it.
Just that one tweak for me  :(
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« Reply #5094 on: Yesterday at 08:32:15 pm »
Just that one tweak for me  :(

Yeah maybe ;D
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