Topic: Today's shooting - The Sandy Hook Memorial Thread - Thoughts and Prayers

[Giono]

Haha, I'm not sure that's going to happen is it?

Oliver North is stepping down as their President with rumours about conflict over financials of the org.That Russian woman Buttina they dealt with is in jail. Her Trump donor collector is going to trial.

The nature of these tragedies is now more racial and polutical. These gunmen are not lone wolves but have support networks on the internet.

The Dems used to be eplit on the NRA and fearful. They are now almost unanimous and do not fear the NRA.

The NRA is now solidly Trumpian. That will have a cost in the future.

The landscape is changing. Who knows what could happen. The Dems have already threatened having a Dem President declaring a "national emergency" eventually a la Trump.

[jason67]

The landscape is changing.W ho knows what could happen. The Dems have already threatened having a Dem President declaring a "national emergency" eventually a la Trump.

No it's not. Once you understand that big business controls policy and dictates what will happen around the world then you'll know that nothing will change.

Look how much money any ex Premier, President, Prime Minster is worth now compared to when they went into office, tens of millions or even more, and that's not even taking into account the rest of the money grabbing twats.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, politicians are there to look after themselves, not us.

(sorry Alan but that's how it is).

[Caligula?]

So is Trump Nero or Caligula?

Neither. They were more clever than he can ever hope to be. 

[Giono]

	Michael Skolnik (@MichaelSkolnik)
	2019-04-27, 8:40 PM Poway: AR-15 Aurora: AR-15 Orlando: AR-15 Parkland: AR-15 Las Vegas: AR-15 Sandy Hook: AR-15 Umpqua CC: AR-15 Waffle House: AR-15 Texas Church: AR-15 San Bernardino: AR-15 Tree of Life Synagogue: AR-15

[Giono]

No it's not. Once you understand that big business controls policy and dictates what will happen around the world then you'll know that nothing will change.

Look how much money any ex Premier, President, Prime Minster is worth now compared to when they went into office, tens of millions or even more, and that's not even taking into account the rest of the money grabbing twats.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, politicians are there to look after themselves, not us.

(sorry Alan but that's how it is).

Big business needs buy in. It's why they spend so much on advertising. It's why their politicians do to.

Yet with all this money spent advertising and lobbying and 40 years getting their way they are breeding 2 generations of social democrats and counting. Their leadership is old and gray. When the pendulum swings it will be hard and swift.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

UNC Charlotte has an active shooter.

UNCC OEM @NinerAlerts

NinerAlert: Shots reported near kennedy. Run, Hide, Fight. Secure yourself immediately. Monitor email and http://emergency.uncc.edu

10:50 PM - Apr 30, 2019

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/04/three-shooting-victims-at-unc-charlotte-campus-report/

[Chakan]

Fuck sakes that’s close to home!!

[fowlermagic]

A Texas bartender who served a man the night he shot his estranged wife and seven others in 2017 has been charged with criminal negligence. Lindsey Glass was arrested in Plano last month, accused of violating a state alcohol law by selling to "an intoxicated or insane person". Authorities allege Ms Glass should have known to stop serving Spencer Hight as he appeared drunk and armed.She faces a year in jail, a $500 (Ł382) fine, or both.

://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48190408 for the full story

Crazy to think she can be facing charges while every day the NRA are trying to make it easier and easier for the guns to end up in the hands of the not quite so sane.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

A Texas bartender who served a man the night he shot his estranged wife and seven others in 2017 has been charged with criminal negligence. Lindsey Glass was arrested in Plano last month, accused of violating a state alcohol law by selling to "an intoxicated or insane person". Authorities allege Ms Glass should have known to stop serving Spencer Hight as he appeared drunk and armed.She faces a year in jail, a $500 (Ł382) fine, or both.

://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48190408 for the full story

Crazy to think she can be facing charges while every day the NRA are trying to make it easier and easier for the guns to end up in the hands of the not quite so sane.

Priorities,guns don't kill people bar tenders do.

[Chakan]

If only the bartender had a gun, she could have shot him before he killed people.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

School shooting in Denver suburb ‘still active and unstable scene’: Local sheriff

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Only eleven dead this time.

Virginia Beach: At least 11 killed in mass shooting, police say

Eleven people were killed and six others injured in a mass shooting at a government building in the US state of Virginia, police said.

Police said the suspect, a long-term and current Virginia Beach city employee, fired "indiscriminately" in a public utilities building.

The gunman, whose identity was not released, was killed when police responded to the incident.

Reports of the shooting started shortly after 16:00 (20:00 GMT) on Friday.

Police Chief James Cervera said the gunman returned fire on police officers but was killed in the exchange.

A police officer was among the six wounded after a bullet struck his vest, Chief Cervera told reporters.

Police said they believed the gunman had acted alone, but the motive for the shooting was not immediately clear.

"This is the most devastating day in the history of Virginia Beach," the mayor, Robert Dyer, told reporters at a press conference.

The area around the building, which contains a range of city government buildings, was put into lockdown and employees were evacuated.

"We just heard people yelling and screaming at people to get down," Megan Banton, an administrative assistant in the building, told local television news station WAVY.

Another employee told the AP news agency she and others heard shooting, but didn't think the gunfire was close.

"I just thank god they were able to alert us in time, because if it had been 10 minutes more we would have all been outside," Sheila Cook said.

Virginia governor Ralph Northam described the incident as a "tragic day" for the city and the state.

"My heart breaks for the victims of this devastating shooting, their families, and all who loved them," he said on Twitter. "I am on my way to Virginia Beach now and will be there within the hour."

The FBI was at the scene helping local authorities investigate the shooting, US media reported.

According to US tracking website Gun Violence Archive the incident is the 150th mass shooting incident in the US this year.

[Caligula?]

Thoughts and prayers.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

If only the bartender had a gun, she could have shot him before he killed people.

They should be bringing in nanotech and get the glasses armed so they can react against bartenders and take out potential madmen and angry people.

[thejbs]

Mental health issues.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

According to US tracking website Gun Violence Archive the incident is the 150th mass shooting incident in the US this year.

[AndyMuller]

Madness.

[gazzalfc]

"We will release his name ONCE. We're going to mention his name ONCE. Then he will forever be referred to as the suspect because our focus now is the dignity and respect to the victims in this case & to their families." -#VirginiaBeach Police Chief James Cervera. #nonotoriety https://t.co/48mWgy5nhY

[Andy @ Allerton!]

The US honestly don't care about their citizens being shot do they?

This year alone; 22,076 incidents and 5,811 US Citizens killed by guns.

[Red-Soldier]

The US honestly don't care about their citizens being shot do they?

This year alone; 22,076 incidents and 5,811 US Citizens killed by guns.

The gun industry is worth billions so it negates all deaths.

[MrGrumpy]

I am no longer shocked when I read about a mass shooting in the US. My sadness for those who lost their loved ones, is made worse by the fact that they live in a country where there is insufficient public or political will to make this mass shooting the last.

[Chakan]

The US honestly don't care about their citizens being shot do they?

This year alone; 22,076 incidents and 5,811 US Citizens killed by guns.

Dead people don't buy guns, that's about as far as it goes.

Although people getting killed by guns instills fear in other people so they buy guns, so it all evens out.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Facing 97yrs,priorities 


Parkland shooting: Should school officer be jailed for child neglect?



Charging him with child neglect but hundreds of gun owners who's weapons are used by children each year get away scot free.

[rob1966]

Facing 97yrs,priorities 


Parkland shooting: Should school officer be jailed for child neglect?



Charging him with child neglect but hundreds of gun owners who's weapons are used by children each year get away scot free.

Heard about this while in Florida. This is all down to that shithouse Trump. No-one in their right mind would go up against a shooter, armed with an AR15 and fuck knows what else, on their own and only armed with a handgun. All this he could have saved such and such bollocks, only thing he was likely to do was add himself to the death toll.

[stoa]

I think there's a point in punishing him for not doing his job. Then again they're going way too far with this. It's just easier to throw the book at a single guy rather than trying to actually fix the problem.

[BarryCrocker]

Facing 97yrs,priorities 


Parkland shooting: Should school officer be jailed for child neglect?



Charging him with child neglect but hundreds of gun owners who's weapons are used by children each year get away scot free.

Someone better start arresting the whole of the LAPD. Their motto is "To Protect and to Serve". Anyone murdered, raped, bashed, robbed is technically not being looked after by someone they are paying for.

[ScottScott]

Fuck that whole country and fuck everyone who lives there. Rather punish and jail someone for 100 years than face the issue that guns are widely available and used every single day to murder or harm people. Fuck the whole lot of you over there, you deserve everything you get

[Mumm-Ra]

Fuck that whole country and fuck everyone who lives there. Rather punish and jail someone for 100 years than face the issue that guns are widely available and used every single day to murder or harm people. Fuck the whole lot of you over there, you deserve everything you get

Haha ok chief

[Chakan]

Fuck that whole country and fuck everyone who lives there. Rather punish and jail someone for 100 years than face the issue that guns are widely available and used every single day to murder or harm people. Fuck the whole lot of you over there, you deserve everything you get

The fuck you on about?

So everyone in the UK deserves the shit that happens from Brexit?

[WhereAngelsPlay]

The fuck you on about?

So everyone in the UK deserves the shit that happens from Brexit?

Poor analogy Chak,we had some terrible gun incidents and we as a country decided enough is enough.


America just shrugs it's shoulders and prays some more.

[Chakan]

Poor analogy Chak,we had some terrible gun incidents and we as a country decided enough is enough.


America just shrugs it's shoulders and prays some more.

No one is saying America isn't fucked or a fucked up country. But to say everyone who lives here deserves it, is fucking offside. There's a ton of people trying to fight the good fight.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

No one is saying America isn't fucked or a fucked up country. But to say everyone who lives here deserves it, is fucking offside. There's a ton of people trying to fight the good fight.

I agree that it is too far but hold the same view with regards to Drumpf,with him I said from the very beginning that the sooner his policies hit Americans hard both monetary,freedom and in lots of cases loss of life the better (wrong thread and don't want to derail this one).

[Chakan]

I agree that it is too far but hold the same view with regards to Drumpf,with him I said from the very beginning that the sooner his policies hit Americans hard both monetary,freedom and in lots of cases loss of life the better (wrong thread and don't want to derail this one).

They put trump in a place where he can do damage, and that's on his base and the GOP, but honestly not everyone in the US deserves what's happening. So I take great offense to someone like Scott who basically paints everyone with the same brush. Fuck that.

[vagabond]

im pretty sure poll after poll has shown that the majority of americans want stricter gun control, their political system is just broken and hijacked by the gop and their donors (like the nra).

[Jiminy Cricket]

Fuck that whole country and fuck everyone who lives there. Rather punish and jail someone for 100 years than face the issue that guns are widely available and used every single day to murder or harm people. Fuck the whole lot of you over there, you deserve everything you get

Yeah. But, many American's might say the same about Brexit and the UK. So, what of that!? 'Fuck you', yeah?

[Jiminy Cricket]

The fuck you on about?

So everyone in the UK deserves the shit that happens from Brexit?

You beat me to it!

[Jiminy Cricket]

Poor analogy Chak,we had some terrible gun incidents and we as a country decided enough is enough.

America just shrugs it's shoulders and prays some more.

Not at all. In both cases the whole population is being blamed for the actions/views of a subsection of that society. 'Fuck you' to a whole country is akin to collective punishment. Sorry. Another analogy, and I generally try to avoid them.

[Jiminy Cricket]

They put trump in a place where he can do damage, and that's on his base and the GOP, but honestly not everyone in the US deserves what's happening. So I take great offense to someone like Scott who basically paints everyone with the same brush. Fuck that.

I lived in the US for seven years until last summer. I agree with you.

[Chakan]

I lived in the US for seven years until last summer. I agree with you.

I've lived here since around 2008. It's gone through a helluva lot of changes and it's definitely sliding backwards. But there's a lot of people trying to fight to keep it going back to dark ages.

[Lone Star Red]

Fuck that whole country and fuck everyone who lives there. Rather punish and jail someone for 100 years than face the issue that guns are widely available and used every single day to murder or harm people. Fuck the whole lot of you over there, you deserve everything you get

Cheers, Scott!