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Walk on, walk on · « **Reply #1760 on:** January 10, 2011, 05:02:34 pm »

Quote from: Walk on, walk on on January 10, 2011, 04:49:39 pm

sorry not interested in what the Judas has to say.

« Last Edit: Today at 04:57:58 PM by Pheeny »

Ouch

brussels sprout · « **Reply #1761 on:** January 10, 2011, 05:03:13 pm »

We've all got this wrong. That paragon of honesty and man love for hodgson and ferguson paddy barclay says it was deffo a pen in today's times. Debate over.

Fuck off you bald c*nt

gollne · « **Reply #1762 on:** January 10, 2011, 05:03:56 pm »

Quote from: walshys_mullet on January 10, 2011, 04:54:47 pm

WHOA WHOA WHOA!

Giggs pen? You kidding right? Brilliant tackle by Shelvey. Watch it again, he gets his foot on the ball first, then Giggs goes down.

Blimey some blind bats in here!

Only saw it once mate, sure you are right. Was trying to be diplomatic.

andy in warrington · « **Reply #1763 on:** January 10, 2011, 05:06:38 pm »

I agree on the so called giggs penalty during that mad scramble. It was a great tackle cleanly taking the ball. However under Howard Webb's rules maybe that constitutes a penalty and we got away with it.

Andy @ Allerton! · « **Reply #1764 on:** January 10, 2011, 05:19:34 pm »

Quote from: Twiggthemanc on January 10, 2011, 04:46:22 pm

Perhaps it is me being biased. At the time I was thinking pen, on second look thought... that's a bit of a dive, but after watching repeatedly after the match, he seemed to have contact and fall. Like Theo. It's not admireable, but in todays modern game I'd like to see my own players do it to be honest.

Yeah I meant a peno and not a red btw.

It's a shame the game was ruined as a spectacle with the Gerrard red and the pen. But whilst it is lamentable, I suppose the ref has to give it no matter the time.

The game at Anfield is massive for our season.

It wasn't a pen. It was a dive. Minimal contact then a step and a half a step and then goes down. When he hits the deck, Agger is about half a foot away from him. Clear dive. The lino standing right there clearly thought it wasn't a pen - and yet a ref standing 35 yards away through a crowd of players gives it. Joke. As Dalglish said.

Gerrard perhaps deserved to go - but the other lad also dove in. But the real issue was Rafael - in the air - studs up - clear Red - especially given Gerrards. Nothing given. Not even a freekick. Shocking.

So many 50-50s given your way - pretty duff all around. You could say that Webb had a bad game - but he didn't. All the results continually went one way and one way only.

dino8880 · « **Reply #1765 on:** January 10, 2011, 05:20:46 pm »

long live the king!. went straight out this morning and got tattooed n0.7, dalglish. fuckin get in

JohnnoWhite · « **Reply #1766 on:** January 10, 2011, 05:43:46 pm »

Quote from: canadianscraggledog on January 9, 2011, 05:19:48 pm

Anyone think we will appeal the red???

I know I would. It was a clean 50/50 and he got ball and really little of the man.
I thought Webb should have played advantage for us, was shocked at the call.

It never was in any way a clean 50/50. He got nothing of the ball but contacted a hefty area of Carrick's instep.
It was a nailed on red from Gerrard - them's the rules brother.

JohnnoWhite · « **Reply #1767 on:** January 10, 2011, 05:50:55 pm »

Quote from: Twiggthemanc on January 10, 2011, 04:34:10 pm

Decent game. 50/50 on the pen and a red card. Think the Giggs one was a red as well, but that's just me.

How do you mean Twiggs? You're not talking about the tackle by Shelvey (was it?) as Giggs was trying to walk through?
Think the lad Shelvey got the ball a split second before Giggs's foot tried to poke the ball goalwards from what I saw. Giggsy just tripped over the lad's foot but ball taken clean for me.

Finn Solomon · « **Reply #1768 on:** January 10, 2011, 05:57:51 pm »

Quote from: Johnnowhite on January 10, 2011, 05:43:46 pm

It never was in any way a clean 50/50. He got nothing of the ball but contacted a hefty area of Carrick's instep.
It was a nailed on red from Gerrard - them's the rules brother.

Yup, just like the boot in the chest Alonso caught from De Jong.

farawayred · « **Reply #1769 on:** January 10, 2011, 06:00:58 pm »

Quote from: Finn Solomon on January 10, 2011, 05:57:51 pm

Yup, just like the boot in the chest Alonso caught from De Jong.

Wrong! Alonso clipped De Jong's boot with his chest, how he stayed in the game is beyond me...

Shaneee. · « **Reply #1770 on:** January 10, 2011, 06:03:49 pm »

great display showed great heart..can only think of what we would have done to them if gerrard hadnt been sent off..can always get em in the league! can someone link me to the picture of the mancs toilets

brussels sprout · « **Reply #1771 on:** January 10, 2011, 06:11:50 pm »

Quote from: Shaneee. on January 10, 2011, 06:03:49 pm

great display showed great heart..can only think of what we would have done to them if gerrard hadnt been sent off..can always get em in the league! can someone link me to the picture of the mancs toilets
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Why? Are you a toilet fetishist, or do you want to revel in the actions of a few idiots?

RigBon1892 · « **Reply #1772 on:** January 10, 2011, 06:29:28 pm »

Quote from: farawayred on January 10, 2011, 06:00:58 pm

Wrong! Alonso clipped De Jong's boot with his chest, how he stayed in the game is beyond me...

This after him headbutting Duncan Ferguson's innocent elbow in the 10 man derby? Bit of a thug that Alonso isn't he?

farawayred · « **Reply #1773 on:** January 10, 2011, 06:34:04 pm »

Quote from: jeffiner1892 on January 10, 2011, 06:29:28 pm

Quote from: farawayred on January 10, 2011, 06:00:58 pm
Wrong! Alonso clipped De Jong's boot with his chest, how he stayed in the game is beyond me...
This after him headbutting Duncan Ferguson's innocent elbow in the 10 man derby? Bit of a thug that Alonso isn't he?

He'd do all these dirty things to players just to get them sent off, the bastard!

Black Bull Nova · « **Reply #1774 on:** January 10, 2011, 06:38:54 pm »

Quote from: flw on January 10, 2011, 02:42:18 am

Im sure that will make him feel real good about himself, couldnt you of left the abuse for one day

His mother started it and it was less abusive than what she said, even if it did have more points

Black Bull Nova · « **Reply #1775 on:** January 10, 2011, 07:38:28 pm »

I think we need some new threads set up if anyone can be bothered doing the history stuff

Patrick Barclay Watch

and

Howard Webb Watch

It would be good to see the consistency that these two characters apply to their chosen profession especially as it affects us (and United)

Sir Harvest Fields · « **Reply #1776 on:** January 10, 2011, 07:51:23 pm »

calm down lads before holidays are handed out.

lets just revel in the return of the king.

Slightly Less Mediocre Baron Bennekov · « **Reply #1777 on:** January 10, 2011, 07:57:23 pm »

Quote from: Sir Harvest Fields on January 10, 2011, 07:51:23 pm

calm down lads before holidays are handed out.

lets just revel in the return of the king.

Wise words, Carl!

Lord Roger Hunt · « **Reply #1778 on:** January 10, 2011, 08:17:54 pm »

Quote from: Ignito on January 10, 2011, 04:43:36 pm

I thought it was the Peoples Front of Judea ?

No it isn't!

It's the Peoples' Front of Judea......flippin' useless pair....

.

ryatnalkar · « **Reply #1779 on:** January 10, 2011, 08:23:58 pm »

Sorry if it is already mentioned, but what has Owen done (recently) that people are asking him to fuck off? Missed that bit.

BigSpruceyGob · « **Reply #1780 on:** January 10, 2011, 08:34:51 pm »

Quote from: Andy @ Allerton on January 10, 2011, 05:19:34 pm

It wasn't a pen. It was a dive. Minimal contact then a step and a half a step and then goes down. When he hits the deck, Agger is about half a foot away from him. Clear dive. The lino standing right there clearly thought it wasn't a pen - and yet a ref standing 35 yards away through a crowd of players gives it. Joke. As Dalglish said.

Gerrard perhaps deserved to go - but the other lad also dove in. But the real issue was Rafael - in the air - studs up - clear Red - especially given Gerrards. Nothing given. Not even a freekick. Shocking.

So many 50-50s given your way - pretty duff all around. You could say that Webb had a bad game - but he didn't. All the results continually went one way and one way only.

Still moaning.

Good lad.

Walk on, walk on · « **Reply #1781 on:** January 10, 2011, 08:38:37 pm »

Quote from: ryatnalkar on January 10, 2011, 08:23:58 pm

Sorry if it is already mentioned, but what has Owen done (recently) that people are asking him to fuck off? Missed that bit.

Mods ain't interested in what judas has to say, but you can read it if you google "soccernet", "owen" and "unsurprised".

JackWard33 · « **Reply #1782 on:** January 10, 2011, 08:50:15 pm »

Quote from: brussels sprout on January 10, 2011, 05:03:13 pm

We've all got this wrong. That paragon of honesty and man love for hodgson and ferguson paddy barclay says it was deffo a pen in today's times. Debate over.

Fuck off you bald c*nt

He is becoming the biggest tosser in football he really is.

Dr Manhattan · « **Reply #1783 on:** January 10, 2011, 08:51:02 pm »

FA Cup tonight at Crawley. One of their players just did a far worse two-footed challenge than Gerrard.

Got a yellow.

TheTeflonJohn · « **Reply #1784 on:** January 10, 2011, 09:56:57 pm »

Quote from: gollne on January 10, 2011, 04:54:36 pm

Owen can fuck right off.

I heard Owen was pile driving Webb in the changies after the game with Rio and the inbred as the fluffers

Lebeu · « **Reply #1785 on:** January 11, 2011, 01:25:53 am »

Quote from: Dr Manhattan on January 10, 2011, 08:51:02 pm

FA Cup tonight at Crawley. One of their players just did a far worse two-footed challenge than Gerrard.

Got a yellow.

That's M. Haywood's shame not Webb's.

Slightly Less Mediocre Baron Bennekov · « **Reply #1786 on:** January 11, 2011, 07:46:27 am »

Quote from: Lebeu on January 11, 2011, 01:25:53 am

That's M. Haywood's shame not Webb's.

Still it shows the inconsistency in the refereeing done on the pitches...

steveeastend · « **Reply #1787 on:** January 11, 2011, 09:39:02 am »

Quote from: Bennekov on January 11, 2011, 07:46:27 am

Still it shows the inconsistency in the refereeing done on the pitches...

That´s 100% correct. They just do whatever THEY feel is right. Instead there are rules to follow. I remember this shitehouse de Jong not even getting a yellow for breaking the leg of this Newcastle midfielder a couple of month ago. It became a joke really...

Grobbelrevell · « **Reply #1788 on:** January 11, 2011, 09:41:02 am »

Just wanted to add that, despite some of the idiots in both ends on Sunday, the atmosphere from us was immense. Great support for the team and for Kenny. Just got my voice back this morning as well so happy days!

jaffod · « **Reply #1789 on:** January 11, 2011, 09:43:07 am »

Quote from: ryatnalkar on January 10, 2011, 08:23:58 pm

Sorry if it is already mentioned, but what has Owen done (recently) that people are asking him to fuck off?

He's still breathing.

blert596 · « **Reply #1790 on:** January 11, 2011, 09:56:06 am »

Quote from: steveeastend on January 11, 2011, 09:39:02 am

That´s 100% correct. They just do whatever THEY feel is right. Instead there are rules to follow. I remember this shitehouse de Jong not even getting a yellow for breaking the leg of this Newcastle midfielder a couple of month ago. It became a joke really...

Its a no win situation though. And one which the refs use to their advantadge whenever they feel like.

Half of the supporters/pundits continuously call for the refs to use common sense to apply the rules. The other half say the rules are there to be obeyed.

Refs are in the position now where they can decide which side of the fence best suits any controversial actions. The Gerrard/rafael situation is a perfect example of that IMO.

Gerrard was sent off because he left the ground and lunged in, with contact on the player. Rafael left the ground, lunged in, and if Meireles hadn't pulled out (sensibly IMO) he would have ended up with a broken leg. The actual offense occurred, although due to a player having the foresight to not get his leg broken there was no contact. Webb let it go because of that. However, IMO, if he was reffing by the letter of the law he should have sent Rafael off. Same offence, that allowed advantadge to the player comitting it, which then led to Gerrard losing his head.

h4ns3n · « **Reply #1791 on:** January 11, 2011, 09:58:47 am »

I wonder if Gerrard will still think Webb is one of the best ref's in England? If I recall his biography correctly, he mentions how much he likes Webb. Have to wait and see if there is any comment from Gerrard about it. It looked 50/50 to me. Carrick made a meal of it. I wonder when they limp off the field and then come running back a few seconds later if that is part of the coaching they get. Damn fine acting IMHO.

Grobbelrevell · « **Reply #1792 on:** January 11, 2011, 10:19:14 am »

Quote from: h4ns3n on January 11, 2011, 09:58:47 am

I wonder if Gerrard will still think Webb is one of the best ref's in England? If I recall his biography correctly, he mentions how much he likes Webb. Have to wait and see if there is any comment from Gerrard about it. It looked 50/50 to me. Carrick made a meal of it. I wonder when they limp off the field and then come running back a few seconds later if that is part of the coaching they get. Damn fine acting IMHO.

It was a red mate, whichever way you dress it up Gerrard had to go. At the same time though, so did Rafael.

_Lfc_ · « **Reply #1793 on:** January 11, 2011, 10:32:37 am »

Webb showing his true colours as usual. The twat is deff a manc.

Andy @ Allerton! · « **Reply #1794 on:** January 11, 2011, 10:33:18 am »

Quote from: jaffod on January 11, 2011, 09:43:07 am

He's still breathing.

theboyspen · « **Reply #1795 on:** January 11, 2011, 10:33:36 am »

He's a sly c*nt Fergie! You only have to watch Shrek diving at the slightest touch to see how they've had it instilled into them!
And we call the continentals....!

Paul-LFC · « **Reply #1796 on:** January 11, 2011, 02:42:30 pm »

From day_tickle on Twitter:

carlosjackal · « **Reply #1797 on:** January 11, 2011, 03:12:29 pm »

Send that pic to the FA ref training school - Number 1. How to keep your eye on the action before making decisions.

McFan · « **Reply #1798 on:** January 11, 2011, 03:24:15 pm »

Anyone at the game on Sunday, who was warming up with Pepe and Gulacsi? Was it Mike Kelly?

Andy @ Allerton! · « **Reply #1799 on:** January 11, 2011, 03:29:17 pm »

Anyone got a photo of Rafael jumping in with both feet studs up?