Author Topic: Clement Sacked (Read 5473 times)

planet-terror · « **Reply #40 on:** December 21, 2017, 08:37:13 am »

Give it Teverton

jackh · « **Reply #41 on:** December 21, 2017, 09:08:14 am »

Quote from: Kekuleyule y'all! on December 20, 2017, 08:21:48 pm

Didn't they sack the last guy just before they played us in January? They got the new manager "bounce" in that game too.

It was the other way round, if I remember correctly - Swansea put in a really strong performance against us in Guidolin's final match last autumn.

Fiasco · « **Reply #42 on:** December 21, 2017, 09:10:50 am »

They've sounded out Koeman, apparently. For a fucking myriad of reasons he'd be a nightmare appointment. A name, but a fucking nightmare appointment.

Alf · « **Reply #43 on:** December 21, 2017, 09:14:32 am »

Bollocks was hoping he'd make it until Boxing Day.

LallanaInPyjamas · « **Reply #44 on:** December 21, 2017, 09:20:10 am »

Quote from: PhaseOfPlay on December 20, 2017, 08:17:05 pm

Be very interesting if that happens. It will just go to show that "philosophy" is less important than "results", and all the bumpf about clubs with a "DNA" is really a load of rubbish when that "DNA" threatens the results and status of the club itself.

Not really. Swansea haven't stuck to their old passing 'DNA' or 'philosophy' since replacing Laudrup with Garry Monk, who introduced a far more cautious, counter-attacking style. They've scored 10 goals this season, comfortably the fewest in the league.

Juneau · « **Reply #45 on:** December 21, 2017, 09:24:52 am »

I can't see what Clement could have done with the resources available to him to improve things. I made this post in the PL thread after the Everton game the other night:

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Look at the amount of failed PL players in the side out there:

Dyer - Scored 4 goals in PL since 2014/15 (played as a winger in a front 3, alongside Narsingh who hasn't scored since he has been at Swansea)
Naughton - Failed to make it at Spurs
Fer - Relegated with Norwich
Olsson - Relgated with Norwich
Clucas - Relegated with Hull (they paid £15m for him this summer!)
Ayew - Relegated with Villa
Carroll - Age 25, 52 PL appearances to his name. Ben Davies is at a similar age with 139 PL games played.

Their only talent right now looks like Mawson (and that is pushing it), as Abraham is a loan signing. You have to wonder what the management and ownership of the club has been doing to let go of talents like Allen, Davies as well as proven PL players like Sigurdsson, Williams (he's nothing now, but was a solid player for Swansea), Shelvey and Andre Ayew go without decent replacements coming in, whilst keeping hold of old and finished players such as Dyer, Routledge and Britton.

I think their time has been coming for a few seasons now and sadly, I think they are doomed right now.

Ciara (with a capital "C") · « **Reply #46 on:** December 21, 2017, 09:30:39 am »

Martinez, Koeman, De Boer, van Gaal etc... linked. Maybe they won't go the Pulis route.

I think this is where a Club like Swansea will find it really hard. They have a philosophy and a certain style they want to play but it's arguably time a new manager needs to implement something like that. Whereas the rough and tumble of a Tony Pulis or Sam Allardyce is probably instant results.

Be interesting to see how true they stick to their roots. Could have seen them going for someone like Mark Hughes, if he was available.

gerrardisgod · « **Reply #47 on:** December 21, 2017, 09:33:42 am »

So their plan to get out of relegation, is to go for Koeman or Bilic. Two manager's that dragged better sides into the relegation fight. Great logic.

LallanaInPyjamas · « **Reply #48 on:** December 21, 2017, 09:36:14 am »

Quote from: gerrardisgod on December 21, 2017, 09:33:42 am

So their plan to get out of relegation, is to go for Koeman or Bilic. Two manager's that dragged better sides into the relegation fight. Great logic.

American owners.

Ravishing Rick Dude · « **Reply #49 on:** December 21, 2017, 11:25:22 am »

Mark Hughes next?

Kekule · « **Reply #50 on:** December 21, 2017, 11:41:51 am »

Quote from: jackh on December 21, 2017, 09:08:14 am

It was the other way round, if I remember correctly - Swansea put in a really strong performance against us in Guidolin's final match last autumn.

Just looked it up, bizarrely we're both correct. Guidolin was sacked a couple of days after we beat them away, they appointed Bob Bradley who barely lasted a couple of months and was sacked shortly before the return game. They ran their socks off in both games, a stark contrast to how they played against anyone else. No doubt they'll be snapping at heels and throwing bodies in the way of shots again this time.

rafathegaffa83 · « **Reply #51 on:** December 21, 2017, 12:52:23 pm »

Leon Britton to act as caretaker manager
https://www.swanseacity.com/news/britton-takes-caretaker-manager-role

Giono · « **Reply #52 on:** December 21, 2017, 12:56:03 pm »

Quote from: sinnermichael on December 20, 2017, 08:55:25 pm

Get Rodgers back. Celtic are clearly on the decline.

At this rate, they'll never win again.

Giono · « **Reply #53 on:** December 21, 2017, 01:07:12 pm »

Quote from: Ciara (with a capital "C") on December 21, 2017, 09:30:39 am

Martinez, Koeman, De Boer, van Gaal etc... linked. Maybe they won't go the Pulis route.

I think this is where a Club like Swansea will find it really hard. They have a philosophy and a certain style they want to play but it's arguably time a new manager needs to implement something like that. Whereas the rough and tumble of a Tony Pulis or Sam Allardyce is probably instant results.

Be interesting to see how true they stick to their roots. Could have seen them going for someone like Mark Hughes, if he was available.

I hope they don't go Pullis. When they were promoted from the Championship they seemed well-run and unlike so many other promoted clubs would actually play football. Koeman would be a decent fit after what he did at Southampton and they'd still play football. Plus his ego has been cut down to size and he has something to prove.

sinnermichael · « **Reply #54 on:** December 21, 2017, 02:05:28 pm »

Bloody hell Ryan Giggs has ruled himself out.

Chakan · « **Reply #55 on:** December 21, 2017, 02:06:40 pm »

Quote from: sinnermichael on December 21, 2017, 02:05:28 pm

Bloody hell Ryan Giggs has ruled himself out.

He only deserves the top jobs to be fair.

newterp · « **Reply #56 on:** December 21, 2017, 02:51:12 pm »

Quote from: cHappyHannukan on December 21, 2017, 02:06:40 pm

He only deserves the top jobs to be fair.

To be fair he's probably bracing for the inevitable Matt Lauer accusations to start against him

mallin9 · « **Reply #57 on:** December 26, 2017, 07:36:33 pm »

Do they look worse than Villa 2 years ago or am I showing off my short memory? Swansea looked baddddddddd

MrGrumpy · « **Reply #58 on:** December 26, 2017, 07:39:07 pm »

Villa two years ago were a special kind of sh1te, Swansea while poor at least showed some intent.

Anyone else think Monk may end up back at Swansea?

sms1986 · « **Reply #59 on:** December 26, 2017, 07:40:45 pm »

But I thought teams always gave us a game after sacking their manager?

Zee_26 · « **Reply #60 on:** December 26, 2017, 07:45:07 pm »

They really do look bad. No surprise really as they sold Llorente and Sigurdsson and never really replaced them properly. They just don't score enough goals now.

Samie · « **Reply #61 on:** December 26, 2017, 07:46:01 pm »

I honestly think we can take Renato Sanches off Bayern. He has no future there and Kloppo could turn him into a beast like he showed at Benfica.

Purple Red · « **Reply #62 on:** December 26, 2017, 08:04:02 pm »

Quote from: mallin9 on December 26, 2017, 07:36:33 pm

Do they look worse than Villa 2 years ago or am I showing off my short memory? Swansea looked baddddddddd

Not sure about that. They're not at the point of ironically celebrating corners yet.