Topic: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé

[Fromola]

We need to focus on pace and strength as well with recruitment. Arsenal have got that now all over the pitch.

[disgraced cake]

I'm just thinking of names of wide a players in the league.

Looking at the numbers, for non strikers the best are Palmer, Salah, Bowen, Saka, Foden, then Bailey.

I would say from them only Bowen is the one gettable better than Bailey, and he would cost a lot for someone turning 28 this year, doesn't seem the right profile

There's Summerville but the Championship tax is just as much a concern as the Bundesliga one.

For me Summerville is an absolute no go. He looks a quality young player who could do well going forward but if we miss out on him so be it. We need someone who's doing great at a higher level now, not someone who might be among the best in the Prem three years from now.

Agree on Bowen, really good player but just not right for us now. Even City have got it wrong on wide men recently with Grealish and Doku, neither contribute anywhere near enough. It feels like one where we'll have to find another Salah who you think might do well but ends up doing really really well. Who knows, perhaps that's Summerville but I can't see him contributing in any Premier League side what he has done with one of the Championship's stronger teams. We never buy the real thing anyway so I'm expecting it to be someone a little left field.

[Stockholm Syndrome]

Ederson at Atalanta impressed me other week, and his stats look favourable for a powerful midfield option.

Hard to scout I imagine, as Atalanta’s system is a bit batshit.

Age profile fits well. His FBRef stats are not outstanding though. Was he good or were we bad?

For me Summerville is an absolute no go. He looks a quality young player who could do well going forward but if we miss out on him so be it. We need someone who's doing great at a higher level now, not someone who might be among the best in the Prem three years from now.

Agree on Bowen, really good player but just not right for us now. Even City have got it wrong on wide men recently with Grealish and Doku, neither contribute anywhere near enough. It feels like one where we'll have to find another Salah who you think might do well but ends up doing really really well. Who knows, perhaps that's Summerville but I can't see him contributing in any Premier League side what he has done with one of the Championship's stronger teams. We never buy the real thing anyway so I'm expecting it to be someone a little left field.

I guess that's the problem then I am not sure we can shop within our league for wise men/attackers other than going fucking mad for someone like Palmer and hoping Chelsea agree

Even in terms of 9's the gettable ones that are tracking better than what we have or Isak (but then isn't producing assists like Darwin and an injury concern, and would cost fucking loads) and Solanke.

In terms of our attack either we need someone from the league who's underlying numbers show they are about to explode, or shop abroad

Edit: and Watkins but again that concern of age on cost that comes with Bowen comes up - 28 and would cost north of £80 million, perhaps north of £100 million

[QC]

Think buying a striker/foward this summer will be difficult. I reckon Arsenal will be in the mix for one, and will be able to focus their funds on that position. Meanwhile, we have to spend, at least, on a DM as well.

There must be a few options surplus to requirements at Madrid.

[Garlic Red]

Strong interest from #LiverpoolFC for #Pacho, defender of #Eintracht @SkySport

@Dimarzio

There’s Matip’s replacement.

[disgraced cake]

There’s Matip’s replacement.

Definitely something that needs finding IMO.I reckon if we do bring one in it probably means Van Den Berg can be moved on. He's gone on loan every season for about the last four years, it's all a bit Chelsea with him now, after playing this much football he should want to continue. Hopefully there's no buy clause for Mainz and they can squeeze money out of someone a bit richer. Bring a new guy in, move Joel on and thank him for everything, then get someone younger and ready to contribute on top of VVD/Konate/Quansah/Gomez.

[Stockholm Syndrome]

Think buying a striker/foward this summer will be difficult. I reckon Arsenal will be in the mix for one, and will be able to focus their funds on that position. Meanwhile, we have to spend, at least, on a DM as well.

There must be a few options surplus to requirements at Madrid.

Good job there's a lot about

Osimhen, Gyorkeres, Openda, Boniface, Jonathan David, Lautaro Martinez, Vlahovic, Zirkzee, Toney, Watkins, perhaps Isak

Chelsea and Arsenal and us could be looking for a striker but there's still plenty to go and get

In terms of Madrid surplus, not much in terms of strikers

[LallanaInPyjamas]

There’s Matip’s replacement.

Fuck me, we might actually sign a left-footed central defender. Hurrah.

[LallanaInPyjamas]

For me Summerville is an absolute no go. He looks a quality young player who could do well going forward but if we miss out on him so be it. We need someone who's doing great at a higher level now, not someone who might be among the best in the Prem three years from now.

Never understood this logic - teams are continually missing out on supreme talent in the Championship because of it. Gyokeres was clearly the real deal at Coventry last season and now he's being discussed as an option for us when he will cost 3-4x as much.

Summerville is destined to play for a big club, there's nothing he's lacking as a wide player.

[DelTrotter]

Good job there's a lot about

Osimhen, Gyorkeres, Openda, Boniface, Jonathan David, Lautaro Martinez, Vlahovic, Zirkzee, Toney, Watkins, perhaps Isak

Chelsea and Arsenal and us could be looking for a striker but there's still plenty to go and get

In terms of Madrid surplus, not much in terms of strikers

Bit of a grim list.

[Stockholm Syndrome]

Bit of a grim list.

I will preface this to say I only think 3 maybe 4 of them are targets we should look at. But the amount of strikers in demand is big and so where other clubs will be shopping is big.

I would have Openda, Boniface, Martinez, and maybe David. But Arsenal and Chelsea will be shopping in this list, the chances of them both signing the players we want and can get, if we are looking for a 9, is slim.

People will be on the market for a striker but the number of strikers in the market, whether right for us or not, is high, so I am not as concerned about all the ones we may want going elsewhere

[Kopenhagen]

Would love if we signed Isak. Hate KSA but love watching him play football

[QC]

Good job there's a lot about

Osimhen, Gyorkeres, Openda, Boniface, Jonathan David, Lautaro Martinez, Vlahovic, Zirkzee, Toney, Watkins, perhaps Isak

Chelsea and Arsenal and us could be looking for a striker but there's still plenty to go and get

In terms of Madrid surplus, not much in terms of strikers

Mbappe has to be displacing someone surely

[LallanaInPyjamas]

Mbappe has to be displacing someone surely

Doubt it. They're light on forwards. Will usually be a front three of Vini, Mbappe and Rodrygo with Jude in behind. Probably keep Diaz and Joselu as back-up options, with Jude able to move back into his false nine-ish role if they want to bring in an extra midfielder in tougher games.

[JackWard33]

Think buying a striker/foward this summer will be difficult. I reckon Arsenal will be in the mix for one, and will be able to focus their funds on that position. Meanwhile, we have to spend, at least, on a DM as well.

There must be a few options surplus to requirements at Madrid.

Why do we need a striker?
Wide forwards I get, you could argue we need 2 depending on how we're going to play and what happens with Diaz .... but unless one of Nunez or Jota leaves which seems really unlikely we won't be buying a 9

[IgorBobbins]

Slot has to bring Mats Wieffer with him doesn't he if we need a 6.


https://youtu.be/_WNWZy9sLHk?si=zJKYm6S21acxG51_

Needs to bulk up a bit to play in this league.  He’s weiffer thin.

[QC]

Why do we need a striker?
Wide forwards I get, you could argue we need 2 depending on how we're going to play and what happens with Diaz .... but unless one of Nunez or Jota leaves which seems really unlikely we won't be buying a 9

Can't see us going into next season with those 2 as the plan. In particular, I can't see a new manager who will be under pressure to perform, pinning his hopes on Jota (alone) or Nunez suddenly improving.

[JackWard33]

Can't see us going into next season with those 2 as the plan. In particular, I can't see a new manager who will be under pressure to perform, pinning his hopes on Jota (alone) or Nunez suddenly improving.

Can't see us not to be honest.
The amount of money it would take to upgrade Jota is going to be best spent elsewhere in attack

[rocco]

Good job there's a lot about

Osimhen, Gyorkeres, Openda, Boniface, Jonathan David, Lautaro Martinez, Vlahovic, Zirkzee, Toney, Watkins, perhaps Isak

Chelsea and Arsenal and us could be looking for a striker but there's still plenty to go and get

In terms of Madrid surplus, not much in terms of strikers

I wouldn’t be surprised if we’re looking at Santiago Giménez since Slot been his present manager

[Knight]

Can't see us not to be honest.
The amount of money it would take to upgrade Jota is going to be best spent elsewhere in attack

Nunez will be easy to upgrade though Jack. Just go to his thread. He’s clearly rubbish.

[CraigDS]

Nunez will be easy to upgrade though Jack. Just go to his thread. He’s clearly rubbish.

TBF RAWK should do some upgrading of their own. Prob some bitter blues we could get who'd be better than half the posters in that thread 

[shook]

Sell Salah to Saudi, buy Raphinha as replacement, done 

[JackWard33]

Nunez will be easy to upgrade though Jack. Just go to his thread. He’s clearly rubbish.

Hah … never seen such vitriol directed at any Liverpool player out of whack to reality - let alone whose one of the most exciting things about the squad - have found it completely bizarre that he’s the lightning rod / blamed for our recent struggles

[shook]

Hah … never seen such vitriol directed at any Liverpool player let alone whose one of the most exciting things about the squad - have found it completely bizarre that he’s the lightning rod / blamed for our recent struggles

it's the man-bun

[Samie]

We need soemone who has Darwin's attributes with Jota's finishing.  I may know a few. 

[Stockholm Syndrome]

Sell Salah to Saudi, buy Raphinha as replacement, done 

Is Raphinha a good replacement though? Numbers wise not setting it alight this year, 27, and as far as I remember he wasn't particularly fast nor direct

[shook]

Is Raphinha a good replacement though? Numbers wise not setting it alight this year, 27, and as far as I remember he wasn't particularly fast nor direct

I was just playing on the earlier Barcelona in debt comments, but you're probably right on that. The good thing is at least we can trust the men in charge on purchases. There's definitely a logical reason behind the choice of Slot, and we can expect a Salah replacement in similar vein.

[rocco]

Is Raphinha a good replacement though? Numbers wise not setting it alight this year, 27, and as far as I remember he wasn't particularly fast nor direct

Raphinha Won’t be on our short  list , his goals/assits are bang average

[JackWard33]

Raphinha Won’t be on our short  list , his goals/assits are bang average

Huh?
He’s got 27 goals and assists in 35.5 90s at Barca - that’s outstanding

[Chris~]

I wouldn’t be surprised if we’re looking at Santiago Giménez since Slot been his present manager

No to Eredivise forwards.

There’s Matip’s replacement.

No to left footed centre backs. Any centre back we sign has to be with the view to them starting about 30 league games with Van Dijk

[Lynndenberries]

If he was going to replace Salah, we should've made the move two years ago. There's no way we are paying top dollar for him now that he's 27.

[killer-heels]

I saw a Lyon game and that Rayan Cherki looked good.

[Lynndenberries]

I saw a Lyon game and that Rayan Cherki looked good.

Doesn't he have attitude problems? Or maybe I am thinking about Auoar?

[Stockholm Syndrome]

Huh?
He’s got 27 goals and assists in 35.5 90s at Barca - that’s outstanding

Ah he hasn't played much this year that's the difference.

He has 20 goals and assists in an equivalent of 19 games this year (1711 minutes) and last year got 22 goals and assists from 32 equivalent games (2942 minutes)

I still think the point stands that he is too old and not the right profile, but his numbers from a raw stand point are misleading

Although I would also point out that Salah has 37 goals and assists from an equivalent 31 games (2849 minutes)

[Samie]

Michael Edwards don't do sentiments and he's running the show now with a new manager who will have not half of the power Kloppo got towards the last few years unless he wins big things. Might be big changes coming.

[red mongoose]

Sell Salah to Saudi, buy Raphinha as replacement, done 

Sell Salah to PSG, sign Xavi Simons as his replacement. Add Summerville from Leeds and we're sorted up front.

One DM we have more info on now that we didn't have last summer is Alan Varela after a year at Porto. Wieffer looks another decent one, and he is playing for Slot. Not sure about his athleticism, but he looks all right. Add that Pacho at CB, maybe Geeirtruda (also from Feyenoord) at LB. I think Slot may want to have a look at Beck and Chambers in the preseason, especially if we spend big elsewhere.

I don't know.

[killer-heels]

Sell Salah to PSG, sign Xavi Simons as his replacement. Add Summerville from Leeds and we're sorted up front.

One DM we have more info on now that we didn't have last summer is Alan Varela after a year at Porto. Wieffer looks another decent one, and he is playing for Slot. Not sure about his athleticism, but he looks all right. Add that Pacho at CB, maybe Geeirtruda (also from Feyenoord) at LB. I think Slot may want to have a look at Beck and Chambers in the preseason, especially if we spend big elsewhere.

I don't know.

I was thinking more Musiala please.

[Agent99]

This was the list the nerds put together before we signed Diaz. This was published in January 2022.

As well as Jarrod Bowen, Marcus Thuram and Noa Lang, Amine Gouiri, Christopher Nkunku, Cody Gakpo and Kamaldeen Sulemana tick many of Liverpool’s boxes; young, hungry, dynamic and with a high ceiling.

Source: @TheAthleticUK

[killer-heels]

This was the list the nerds put together before we signed Diaz. This was published in January 2022.

Eww. Lang is good though.

[LallanaInPyjamas]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c98zypwz593o

Doesn't sound that expensive for either in the current climate.