Topic: Harvey Elliott (Harvey Daniel James Elliott)

[JP!]

The stick this lad sometimes seems to get baffles me, he's completely class and I think he'll be vital to the new manager.

Realistically Kloppo was correct in saying he should've played him more, especially over the corpse of Szobozlai.

[Draex]

The stick this lad sometimes seems to get baffles me, he's completely class and I think he'll be vital to the new manager.

Realistically Kloppo was correct in saying he should've played him more, especially over the corpse of Szobozlai.

He'll be world class within a few years.

https://datamb.football/H_Elliott_Midfielder_stats/

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Harvey Elliott (Liverpool, 21)
📊 vs Top 5 League U21 midfielders, per 90

🥇 Key passes – 1st
🥇 Expected assists – 1st
🥇 Crosses – 1st
🥇 Shots – 1st
🥈 Assists – 2nd
🥈 Shot assists – 2nd
🥈 Passes to penalty area – 2nd
🥉 Through passes – 3rd

The only Top 5 League midfielder with more key passes per 90 ? Kevin De Bruyne

[WhereAngelsPlay]

He's a diamond.

[Drinks Sangria]

Personally wouldn’t be surprised to see him be a shock pick in the England provisional squad tomorrow, before not making the final 26.

He’s had a great season and come on massively. Can’t wait to see him next season as Slot usually plays a proper 10.

[gazzalfc]

Gutted that he hasn't been included in the England squad. But he does have tougher competition on that right hand side than Curtis has on the left

[Fromola]

Gutted that he hasn't been included in the England squad. But he does have tougher competition on that right hand side than Curtis has on the left

Sad for him but the more players of ours that get the summer off the better it is for us. He played the under 21 Euros last summer, he's due a decent break.

Keeps developing then no doubt he'll be at the next World Cup and Euros.

[thaddeus]

Gutted that he hasn't been included in the England squad. But he does have tougher competition on that right hand side than Curtis has on the left

Curtis is also a competent #6 at a stretch.  When I watched a couple of U21 games last summer it seemed like Curtis was playing deeper that he does for us.

Harvey having more time with Slot is beneficial for us.  I expect when it comes to it that Curtis will also be spending the summer with us.

[Draex]

Curtis is also a competent #6 at a stretch.  When I watched a couple of U21 games last summer it seemed like Curtis was playing deeper that he does for us.

Harvey having more time with Slot is beneficial for us.  I expect when it comes to it that Curtis will also be spending the summer with us.

100% this will be the third pre-season he's smashed it and been one of our starters only to get injured.. I can see him nailing that #10 position.

[wemmick]

That's too bad for Harvey. He is a game changer. Hopefully, he can get a good rest and then hit the gym before preseason. Adding just a few pounds of muscle wouldn't hurt him for next season. He is listed as 141lbs, so he could easily go up to 145 or so by the start of next season. He'll be awful to play against if he can increase his general strength a bit. He seems like he could develop a Milner-type physique as his body fills out. 

[paisley1977]

Great news about Harvey hope Curtis and Jarell follow him to the beach. Don't need big nose getting his negative hands on them.

[bird_lfc]

Great news about Harvey hope Curtis and Jarell follow him to the beach. Don't need big nose getting his negative hands on them.

He’s probably gutted, where Jarell is probably over the moon. I imagine Curtis knows he isn’t on the plane but appreciates being included

Most of these lads WANT to be included if we like it or not, and I want our players to do well.

[Fromola]

He’s probably gutted, where Jarell is probably over the moon. I imagine Curtis knows he isn’t on the plane but appreciates being included

Most of these lads WANT to be included if we like it or not, and I want our players to do well.

Like Salah wants to go to the AFCON every other year and comes back a write off the rest of the season. Internationals are a pain in the arse from the perspective of the club.

[End Product]

Better off away from England nonsense  Southgate would only put eels in the mind noodles.

[BassTunedToRed]

Harvey Elliott played a part in Liverpool's final nine goals of 2023/24 - the longest run of any LFC player this season.

(Nunez had a seven goal run, Jota six)

One goal
Three official assists
One own goal 'assisted'
Passes in build up moves for four other goals.

[PEG2K]

He'll be world class within a few years.

https://datamb.football/H_Elliott_Midfielder_stats/

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Harvey Elliott (Liverpool, 21)
📊 vs Top 5 League U21 midfielders, per 90

🥇 Key passes – 1st
🥇 Expected assists – 1st
🥇 Crosses – 1st
🥇 Shots – 1st
🥈 Assists – 2nd
🥈 Shot assists – 2nd
🥈 Passes to penalty area – 2nd
🥉 Through passes – 3rd

The only Top 5 League midfielder with more key passes per 90 ? Kevin De Bruyne

These data are not accurate. A simple querie on fbref where comparisons with the other names in that graph(Wirtz, Pedri, Musiala) shows you otherwise. Notably he's not 1st in key passes or expected assists among those players and his throughbal stats is miles behind all of them. He does lead in number of crosses (but it's more about style and his position), which his probably why they chose to put that in the graph, combined with the false KP data, to make Harvey "top right".

And the claim that the only top 5 league midfielder with more KP per 90 than him is KDB is wild. The only inclusion of midfielders for the comparison makes it very agenda driven already. But even if we count only midfielders, in the PL alone we also have Fernandes, Gross, Odegaard, Pereirra, Maddison, etc. better than him and I'm sure there are tons of them in the other leagues as well.

Datamb is a dodgy sources for stats that really no one uses. They often make these kinds of tweets, in which they either manipulate the analyses or just flat out publish false data, for clickbait. I already said this in this very thread because they did this shit with Harvey once already. It's a site run by one guy (ironic that I referred to it as "they") who uses gmail as the official email address lol.

[RedForeverTT]

The stick this lad sometimes seems to get baffles me, he's completely class and I think he'll be vital to the new manager.

Realistically Kloppo was correct in saying he should've played him more, especially over the corpse of Szobozlai.

Willing runner, willing learner and was doing all the thankless work for Hendo and Fabinho the season before.

Has stepped up and played very well in his favourite position. However would more experience of knowing what to do when he is dragged out of position.

Hope to see him going to England senior squad in a year's time.

[pl_kop_1969]

He seems to have the football intelligence required to make up for other areas. People have said how he studies the game from the bench and comes on knowing what to do. It also looks like he's worked on his strength and fitness. He knows he's not going to get taller or quicker but he can be fitter and stronger. When he plays 90, or 120, minutes, by the end of the game he seems to be outrunning everyone. Reminds me of Hendo still running at full tilt late in games when everyone else looked out on their feet.