Author Topic: Twenty's plenty and the £30 cap (Read 8585 times)

CONFIAMOS · « **on:** October 19, 2018, 10:48:18 am »

Hi all.

Really just a stream of consciousness post as I was thinking about this earlier.

Next season the £30 away cap agreement is due to expire. It's all gone very quiet on this front which is actually quite worrying.

Was thinking about how we get a shock paying €70 in the CL - actually if clubs in the league are allowed to price as they please again we'll be getting a good wedge of domestic aways around that mark.

I'll assume (hope) that discussions are ongoing in renewing the cap but I'm guessing there's a bunch of greedy bastards itching to wave goodbye to this.

Anyone heard anything? Perhaps a question for SOS.

Craig S · « **Reply #1 on:** October 19, 2018, 10:58:11 am »

Meeting in the new year. FSF expect it to be extended

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/premier-league-set-crunch-meeting-15287913

CONFIAMOS · « **Reply #2 on:** October 19, 2018, 11:14:13 am »

Missed that thanks. Fingers crossed.

campioni · « **Reply #3 on:** October 19, 2018, 11:25:53 am »

Quote from: CONFIAMOS on October 19, 2018, 10:48:18 am

Hi all.

Really just a stream of consciousness post as I was thinking about this earlier.

Next season the £30 away cap agreement is due to expire. It's all gone very quiet on this front which is actually quite worrying.

Was thinking about how we get a shock paying €70 in the CL - actually if clubs in the league are allowed to price as they please again we'll be getting a good wedge of domestic aways around that mark.

I'll assume (hope) that discussions are ongoing in renewing the cap but I'm guessing there's a bunch of greedy bastards itching to wave goodbye to this.

Anyone heard anything? Perhaps a question for SOS.

Before the cap came in Arsenal and Chelsea were already charging £65 for away tickets which is about the same as €70. Dread to think what they'd be charging us next season if the cap isn't renewed.

redgriffin73 · « **Reply #4 on:** October 19, 2018, 11:49:07 am »

Hadn't even realised it had to be renewed, fingers crossed it's sorted out. Must have saved me hundreds in the last few years on this.

ABJ · « **Reply #5 on:** October 19, 2018, 04:11:33 pm »

Quote from: redgriffin73 on October 19, 2018, 11:49:07 am

Hadn't even realised it had to be renewed, fingers crossed it's sorted out. Must have saved me hundreds in the last few years on this.

It was initially a 3 season deal.

Alf · « **Reply #6 on:** October 19, 2018, 04:46:38 pm »

Fingers crossed it gets renewed.

Shanklygates · « **Reply #7 on:** October 20, 2018, 01:46:27 pm »

At least FSF are involved... $:-\$

CONFIAMOS · « **Reply #8 on:** November 6, 2018, 10:23:58 am »

Quote from: Shanklygates on October 20, 2018, 01:46:27 pm

At least FSF are involved... $:-\$

What do you mean?

Shanklygates · « **Reply #9 on:** November 6, 2018, 02:17:49 pm »

Quote from: CONFIAMOS on November 6, 2018, 10:23:58 am

What do you mean?

See Reply 1 further up

CONFIAMOS · « **Reply #10 on:** November 8, 2018, 05:47:19 pm »

Quote from: Shanklygates on November 6, 2018, 02:17:49 pm

See Reply 1 further up

Sorry took the smilie thing as though you didn’t like the FSF

Shanklygates · « **Reply #11 on:** November 8, 2018, 06:16:22 pm »

I'm glad they are. Someone has to stick up for fans, like SOS do here

(happy face)

Tommypig · « **Reply #12 on:** December 3, 2018, 10:54:31 am »

Didn't know Arsenal did this:

Discounted Premier League away tickets
We are delighted to remind our loyal travelling supporters you will be paying only £26 for each Premier League match this coming season.
We are a providing a further £4 discount on all away match tickets, in addition to the £30 cap on away tickets voted for by all Premier League clubs.

scouser102002 · « **Reply #13 on:** December 3, 2018, 11:04:25 am »

Quote from: Tommypig on December 3, 2018, 10:54:31 am

Didn't know Arsenal did this:

Discounted Premier League away tickets
We are delighted to remind our loyal travelling supporters you will be paying only £26 for each Premier League match this coming season.
We are a providing a further £4 discount on all away match tickets, in addition to the £30 cap on away tickets voted for by all Premier League clubs.

'But we'll recoup our losses by charging £90+ for home games'

Alf · « **Reply #14 on:** December 3, 2018, 11:47:02 am »

Quote from: Tommypig on December 3, 2018, 10:54:31 am

Didn't know Arsenal did this:

Discounted Premier League away tickets
We are delighted to remind our loyal travelling supporters you will be paying only £26 for each Premier League match this coming season.
We are a providing a further £4 discount on all away match tickets, in addition to the £30 cap on away tickets voted for by all Premier League clubs.

Yes they continued putting their 200k budget aside when the cap was agreed. Interested to see what the next developments are on the £30 front with the PL.

Tommypig · « **Reply #15 on:** February 6, 2019, 03:31:51 pm »

Confirmed £30 cap Extended for another 3 years

redgriffin73 · « **Reply #16 on:** February 6, 2019, 03:32:44 pm »

Quote from: Tommypig on February 6, 2019, 03:31:51 pm

Confirmed £30 cap Extended for another 3 years

Good news, makes a hell of a difference over the season, that does.

Tommypig · « **Reply #17 on:** February 6, 2019, 03:38:16 pm »

Quote from: redgriffin73 on February 6, 2019, 03:32:44 pm

Good news, makes a hell of a difference over the season, that does.

FSF to their credit are pushing for further fan incentives for Televised games

anfieldpurch · « **Reply #18 on:** February 6, 2019, 03:43:17 pm »

Quote from: Tommypig on February 6, 2019, 03:31:51 pm

Confirmed £30 cap Extended for another 3 years

Where you seen this? Can only see a Times article saying they'll debate it and could oppose it?

Suggests the meeting takes place tomorrow

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/premier-league-clubs-to-discuss-scrapping-30-away-ticket-cap-dbh7bf79g?shareToken=d18a8178d6c973ad48e64106710fbfa0&fbclid=IwAR1XKlbPKadjiJK9aUyeOjbGlf26tfbj83ao5_A1p6tHyZ5ldtfxM7A7kIU

Alf · « **Reply #19 on:** February 6, 2019, 04:21:57 pm »

Quote from: anfieldpurch on February 6, 2019, 03:43:17 pm

Where you seen this? Can only see a Times article saying they'll debate it and could oppose it?

Suggests the meeting takes place tomorrow

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/premier-league-clubs-to-discuss-scrapping-30-away-ticket-cap-dbh7bf79g?shareToken=d18a8178d6c973ad48e64106710fbfa0&fbclid=IwAR1XKlbPKadjiJK9aUyeOjbGlf26tfbj83ao5_A1p6tHyZ5ldtfxM7A7kIU

I read in the same in the mirror.

Farman · « **Reply #20 on:** February 6, 2019, 04:32:40 pm »

Any raise or scrapping would immediately get reflected in the light of the £5m goodbye pay-off to Scudamore. Can you imagine the optics? 'Sorry away supporters, we know you are our lifeblood and that many of you struggle to make ends meet, but hey someone's got to pay the £5m to our former multi-millionaire Chief Executive that we all happily agreed to...'

Not sure how much they're worried about optics though!

Statto Red · « **Reply #21 on:** February 6, 2019, 05:01:57 pm »

Quote from: campioni on October 19, 2018, 11:25:53 am

Before the cap came in Arsenal and Chelsea were already charging £65 for away tickets which is about the same as €70. Dread to think what they'd be charging us next season if the cap isn't renewed.

Seem to remember QPR charging around £70, Everton binned half of the allocation they were entitled to off, as tickets were sale & no return, QPR ownership changed during the season, so the prices came down a bit by the time we played them at there place.

Alf · « **Reply #22 on:** February 7, 2019, 01:44:01 pm »

Just seen a tweet from the Premier League saying the £30 cap will remain in place for another 3 years, unanimously agreed apparently.

PaulKS · « **Reply #23 on:** February 7, 2019, 01:58:38 pm »

Quote from: Alf on February 7, 2019, 01:44:01 pm

Just seen a tweet from the Premier League saying the £30 cap will remain in place for another 3 years, unanimously agreed apparently.

Great news. Fair play to them

ABJ · « **Reply #24 on:** February 7, 2019, 02:13:35 pm »

Quote from: Alf on February 7, 2019, 01:44:01 pm

Just seen a tweet from the Premier League saying the £30 cap will remain in place for another 3 years, unanimously agreed apparently.

https://www.premierleague.com/news/1049265?sf207378751=1

CONFIAMOS · « **Reply #25 on:** February 11, 2019, 11:46:12 am »

Great news.

The clubs sweet silence on next years ticket prices is a bit worrying. Just a freeze would actually be shite, considering the latest fanfare around profits at the moment. You'd like to think they'd lower or extend young adult ages/lower kids, but obviously this is LFC we are talking about so I'll dream on

oojason · « **Reply #26 on:** February 19, 2019, 10:02:49 pm »

'Liverpool fans applaud as Bayern supporters unfurl banners about ticket prices #LFC #Bayern' - https://twitter.com/jamespearceecho/status/1097967532483534849?s=21

Shanklygates · « **Reply #27 on:** February 19, 2019, 10:51:21 pm »

Good on them.

Impressed by that

ScubaSteve · « **Reply #28 on:** February 19, 2019, 11:01:55 pm »

Quote from: oojason on February 19, 2019, 10:02:49 pm

'Liverpool fans applaud as Bayern supporters unfurl banners about ticket prices #LFC #Bayern' - https://twitter.com/jamespearceecho/status/1097967532483534849?s=21

Yeah that was good, the applause went on for a while too

I know it’s not the point but it makes me laugh when an away fan moans about paying £48 on a ticket but won’t hesitate when paying hundreds for a flight, food, accommodation, booze etc. If you can afford to go the European alwas then you can afford £48 for a ticket..just saying

RSoares21 · « **Reply #29 on:** February 20, 2019, 08:47:32 am »

Quote from: ScubaSteve on February 19, 2019, 11:01:55 pm

Yeah that was good, the applause went on for a while too

I know it’s not the point but it makes me laugh when an away fan moans about paying £48 on a ticket but won’t hesitate when paying hundreds for a flight, food, accommodation, booze etc. If you can afford to go the European alwas then you can afford £48 for a ticket..just saying

It's not about whether they can afford it or not. Clubs should realize the effort and expense that it takes commited fans to travel and take that into considerations in pricing. For clubs in champions league its not really the income from away ticket sales that are affecting your finances that much!

PaulKS · « **Reply #30 on:** February 20, 2019, 10:07:12 am »

Quote from: ScubaSteve on February 19, 2019, 11:01:55 pm

Yeah that was good, the applause went on for a while too

I know it’s not the point but it makes me laugh when an away fan moans about paying £48 on a ticket but won’t hesitate when paying hundreds for a flight, food, accommodation, booze etc. If you can afford to go the European alwas then you can afford £48 for a ticket..just saying

I know what you mean but you've missed the point massively

You expect to pay hundreds for everything you listed there...

Barneylfc∗ · « **Reply #31 on:** February 20, 2019, 12:55:36 pm »

Was that the applause in the 56th minute? Remember that happening but had no clue what it was for.

Shanklygates · « **Reply #32 on:** February 20, 2019, 01:43:14 pm »

Quote from: 😁 on February 20, 2019, 12:55:36 pm

Was that the applause in the 56th minute? Remember that happening but had no clue what it was for.

Yes. The bloke by me asked "Who came on then?"

ChrisLFCKOP · « **Reply #33 on:** February 20, 2019, 01:49:52 pm »

Quote from: Shanklygates on February 20, 2019, 01:43:14 pm

Yes. The bloke by me asked "Who came on then?"

to be honest I looked at the subs bench and couldn't work out why people where clapping as no one was coming on...

About 30s of looking around before I saw the banner...

CONFIAMOS · « **Reply #34 on:** February 20, 2019, 02:15:42 pm »

Quote from: ScubaSteve on February 19, 2019, 11:01:55 pm

Yeah that was good, the applause went on for a while too

I know it’s not the point but it makes me laugh when an away fan moans about paying £48 on a ticket but won’t hesitate when paying hundreds for a flight, food, accommodation, booze etc. If you can afford to go the European alwas then you can afford £48 for a ticket..just saying

Wow you're right that absolutely not the point and it's a lazy attitude to have -

Cumulative inflation 1990-2011 (when we were lobbying the premier league about prices) - 77%
Inflation of a ticket to watch Liverpool - 1000%

It’s not about who can afford to do it and even IF we could all afford rising prices year on year, why should we? It’s exploitation.

The £30 cap has kept a lot of our core away support at the game because the way it was going London aways would have been £70+ each by now. That cap has saved regulars thousands, literally. We would have lost even more of the game without it.

So, we aren’t stupid, they have us by the balls in so many ways, but we stick together and make a stand and people listen. See Hull away, the 77 minute walk out.

ABJ · « **Reply #35 on:** February 20, 2019, 04:07:11 pm »

Quote from: CONFIAMOS on February 20, 2019, 02:15:42 pm

Wow you're right that absolutely not the point and it's a lazy attitude to have -

Cumulative inflation 1990-2011 (when we were lobbying the premier league about prices) - 77%
Inflation of a ticket to watch Liverpool - 1000%

It’s not about who can afford to do it and even IF we could all afford rising prices year on year, why should we? It’s exploitation.

The £30 cap has kept a lot of our core away support at the game because the way it was going London aways would have been £70+ each by now. That cap has saved regulars thousands, literally. We would have lost even more of the game without it.

So, we aren’t stupid, they have us by the balls in so many ways, but we stick together and make a stand and people listen. See Hull away, the 77 minute walk out.

Absolutely spot on.

Shocking attitude to say that people shouldn't moan when paying £48 for a ticket

ScubaSteve · « **Reply #36 on:** February 20, 2019, 04:16:02 pm »

I wish I hadn’t said anything

I understood the point they were trying to make it and it is worth standing up to, it just makes me laugh, I meant no harm!

CONFIAMOS · « **Reply #37 on:** February 20, 2019, 04:52:42 pm »

I assume it simply doesn't affect you then.

Barneylfc∗ · « **Reply #38 on:** February 20, 2019, 05:16:16 pm »

Quote from: CONFIAMOS on February 20, 2019, 02:15:42 pm

Wow you're right that absolutely not the point and it's a lazy attitude to have -

Cumulative inflation 1990-2011 (when we were lobbying the premier league about prices) - 77%
Inflation of a ticket to watch Liverpool - 1000%

It’s not about who can afford to do it and even IF we could all afford rising prices year on year, why should we? It’s exploitation.

The £30 cap has kept a lot of our core away support at the game because the way it was going London aways would have been £70+ each by now. That cap has saved regulars thousands, literally. We would have lost even more of the game without it.

So, we aren’t stupid, they have us by the balls in so many ways, but we stick together and make a stand and people listen. See Hull away, the 77 minute walk out.

Pedantry, but the 77 minute walk out was Sunderland at home wasn't it? Hull away was but it a kids ticket and not attending.

I may be wrong

Barneylfc∗ · « **Reply #39 on:** February 20, 2019, 05:16:59 pm »

Quote from: ScubaSteve on February 20, 2019, 04:16:02 pm

I wish I hadn’t said anything

I understood the point they were trying to make it and it is worth standing up to, it just makes me laugh, I meant no harm!

If it makes you laugh, then I don't think you do understand the point being made.