Topic: The Alternative Premier League Table 2023-24

[Kashinoda]

Don't post the updated APLT you cowards.

Spuds -3, Newcastle -3

[gazzam1963]

Real chance on Saturday to go to -3

[kavah]

Question for Prof. are Villa now classed as a top team (like City, Arsenal etc)?

[farawayred]

Question for Prof. are Villa now classed as a top team (like City, Arsenal etc)?

(Not Prof, but...)
They were classed as a top team this season too, judging by the 37th game away to them being a 1-point for us.

[Prof]

Question for Prof. are Villa now classed as a top team (like City, Arsenal etc)?

I'm not sure I understand the question.

If you mean are they a 1 point par away from home, then yes, every team in the top 13 from the previous season is.

If you mean, are they playing like a top four team now.  Then yes, after 14 games, any team with - 7 or better is.

[kavah]

I'm not sure I understand the question.

If you mean are they a 1 point par away from home, then yes, every team in the top 13 from the previous season is.

If you mean, are they playing like a top four team now.  Then yes, after 14 games, any team with - 7 or better is.

(Not Prof, but...)
They were classed as a top team this season too, judging by the 37th game away to them being a 1-point for us.

Right - cheers - sorry Prof I forgot the crtiteria but your second point underlines how well Villa have started the season

[RooiBefok]

APLT Comparison : Klopp's Tenure

[RooiBefok]

Home / Away : Klopp's Tenure

[Knight]

I love this thread, many, many thanks to those who put in the effort to keep it updated. Very grateful.

[stonecold_jpm]

Home / Away : Klopp's Tenure

We need to keep this home form up and get as close to 55 points as we can to offset our poor away record.
16/17 wins has to be the target and if 11 have to be at Anfield so be it. 16-5-2.

[mikey_LFC]

We need to keep this home form up and get as close to 55 points as we can to offset our poor away record.
16/17 wins has to be the target and if 11 have to be at Anfield so be it. 16-5-2.

We haven’t got a poor away record when you adjust for fixtures. It’s par at the worst.

[JP-65]

We haven’t got a poor away record when you adjust for fixtures. It’s par at the worst.

Will look even better after we win tomorrow

[mikey_LFC]

Will look even better after we win tomorrow

Tough game though. Never an easy place to get a result, and can see them having a reaction after the midweek poor showing. Need to guard against complacency and attack the game with an intensity they can’t match given they aren’t used to the short turn around. Anything less and we could easily drop points.

It’s our last par 1 until Feb, so winning and performing to par over the rest would make a 9 game winning run, which is title form but very, very hard to achieve. Would be a great statement but I’m not sure we are quite up to that yet. Happy to be proven wrong though and I expect even if we don’t, the target for winning the league won’t be par or higher anyway this season.

[Suareznumber7]

Will look even better after we win tomorrow

can't see any way we win tomorrow.  We're in for one of the toughest games we've had in a while.  Think we'll be lucky to not get blown out. 

[disgraced cake]

Was only six away wins in the league last season. 23 points all together I think we picked up away. IF we can win tomorrow and beat Burnley then we'll be close to that already in half a season. There's a championship to be won, folks.

[johnny74]

No chance against Palace for so many reasons.

[MrButler]

APLT Comparison : Klopp's Tenure

Presented like this has really made me realise we're on the brink of a very serious season.

[gazzam1963]

Onto -3 after today

[Sangria]

Onto -3 after today

+3.

[Brian Blessed]

Back to zero next week. Beating Manchester United has become a little too inevitable.

[gazzam1963]

+3.

Correct but I’m in golf mode on the APTL so it’s three under par to me 😀

[Kashinoda]

Le' Arse -1

[stonecold_jpm]

5 ahead of Arsenal
8 ahead of City

[Lofty Ambitions]

Ah if not for the resurgent Man Utd we could start dreaming. A nice run, this was.

[SpionBob]

Ah if not for the resurgent Man Utd we could start dreaming. A nice run, this was.

Tis true. some tough home games coming up and Burnley away. These next few games might find us out!

[Prof]

[reddebs]

😳

[scalatore]

I might print it out and frame it

[farawayred]

This is shaping up as a thing of beauty.

For the first time this season the model below gives us the shortest odds for the title. After last round we were 3rd after City and Arsenal. Things change fast though...
https://www.euroclubindex.com/league-odds/

[Knight]

Was Palace a par one? I forget how the model works. Just checked the OP. A par 1 but probably the easiest of the season.

[RedG13]

Was Palace a par one? I forget how the model works.

Yea they finished top 13 last year. Liverpool has 5 par 1 left

[KurtVerbose]

I'd forgotten they're par one. That's a nice little surprise.

[KurtVerbose]

Incidentally, around this time last year Arsenal had a similar 8 point lead over City in the APLT.

Not saying the same will happen to us, but it's certainly not won yet. Also, more horses in this race.

[Caps4444]

Perhaps I’m thinking of this too simply?
If we win our next 3, then our APLT score remains at +3 form 19 games (9 home and. 10 away ). We would also have 46 points at the halfway stage.

But if we do the same APLT in the second half, would we go to +6 after 38 games = 96.

Yet doubling our halfway points would be 92….so does that mean we have easier games in the 2nd half of the season?

[reddebs]

Perhaps I’m thinking of this too simply?
If we win our next 3, then our APLT score remains at +3 form 19 games (9 home and. 10 away ). We would also have 46 points at the halfway stage.

But if we do the same APLT in the second half, would we go to +6 after 38 games = 96.

Yet doubling our halfway points would be 92….so does that mean we have easier games in the 2nd half of the season?

Yes.  It's been discussed on here a fair bit how we've had the toughest first half of the season with most of the aways to our nearest rivals already played.

[Boaty McBoatface]

Maximum achievable points currently*

Liverpool - 103
Arsenal - 102
Villa - 101
City - 99
Spurs - 96
United - 93
Saudi - 92

*Very simplistic and, obviously no single team can reach their number without affecting the other totals (yet).

[Sangria]

Perhaps I’m thinking of this too simply?
If we win our next 3, then our APLT score remains at +3 form 19 games (9 home and. 10 away ). We would also have 46 points at the halfway stage.

But if we do the same APLT in the second half, would we go to +6 after 38 games = 96.

Yet doubling our halfway points would be 92….so does that mean we have easier games in the 2nd half of the season?

There are 26 par 3 games and 12 par 1 games. As per above, we have 5 par 1 games remaining, meaning we've had 7 par 1 games already (from 16).

Up until now: 7/16 par 1s.
Remaining: 5/22 par 1s.

[Schmidt]

We've had a fair amount of difficult games, but conversely hard games are the only way to gain APLT points, while with easy games the only way is down. I think the APLT is interesting but isn't necessarily a better indicator than the league table.

But then we're top of both so who cares!

[Caps4444]

There are 26 par 3 games and 12 par 1 games. As per above, we have 5 par 1 games remaining, meaning we've had 7 par 1 games already (from 16).

Up until now: 7/16 par 1s.
Remaining: 5/22 par 1s.

So after Boxing Day:

5/12 Par 1s remaining
14/26 Par 3s remaining.


Although 3 of out next 4 Par 3s are United, Arsenal and Newcastle

[Sangria]

So after Boxing Day:

5/12 Par 1s remaining
14/26 Par 3s remaining.


Although 3 of out next 4 Par 3s are United, Arsenal and Newcastle

We expect to beat City at home, let alone the above. Beating everyone at home is the foundation of the APLT.