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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2023-24
« Last post by johnny74 on Today at 12:53:26 am »First half of that graph. That's typical title winning form. We just ran out of steam.
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General Football and Sport / Re: 7 players you’d have loved to see play for Liverpool
« Last post by Boaty McBoatface on Today at 12:48:25 am »A lot of great shouts so far.
I'll go at it from a similar POV as well. I'll try to avoid the Galacticos and go with what I think the team needed at the time.
Peter Schmeichel - If we had signed him to replace Grobbelaar instead of David James, we'd have a few more titles and they'd have a few less.
Des Walker - We bought Ruddock for a British record transfer fee for a defender, and Sheffield Wednesday broke it the very next day by signing Walker. Tenacious defender with pace. I always think he was underrated.
Roy Keane - What our midfield was missing since Souness broke up the late 80's team.
Chris Waddle - Superb player who would have helped during our long drought of quality wingers. Just keep him off pelanties!
Petr Cech - A quality keeper who, in my alternate universe scenario, would have almost completely filled the timegap between Schmeichel and Alisson.
Ashley Cole - Between Steve Nicol leaving (1994) and Andy Robertson arriving (2017), a paucity of nearly a quarter of a century at lb (barring the odd season). Ashley Cole would have almost covered that entire gap by himself.
Ngolo Kante - We all know how good he was. Would have replaced an injury ravaged Lucas Leiva. Him, Fabinho and Gini would have been one tough midfield!
Having grown up in the 70’s and 80’s watching us win all before us and then watching us fall of a cliff under Sounness in the early 90’s these are the players I’d have liked him to sign for us when he was the biggest spending manager in world football and mostly buying shite to replace genuine legends.
Roy Keane
Alan Shearer
Tim Flowers
Colin Hendry
Gary Parker
Gary Speed
Brian Laudrup
I'll go at it from a similar POV as well. I'll try to avoid the Galacticos and go with what I think the team needed at the time.
Peter Schmeichel - If we had signed him to replace Grobbelaar instead of David James, we'd have a few more titles and they'd have a few less.
Des Walker - We bought Ruddock for a British record transfer fee for a defender, and Sheffield Wednesday broke it the very next day by signing Walker. Tenacious defender with pace. I always think he was underrated.
Roy Keane - What our midfield was missing since Souness broke up the late 80's team.
Chris Waddle - Superb player who would have helped during our long drought of quality wingers. Just keep him off pelanties!
Petr Cech - A quality keeper who, in my alternate universe scenario, would have almost completely filled the timegap between Schmeichel and Alisson.
Ashley Cole - Between Steve Nicol leaving (1994) and Andy Robertson arriving (2017), a paucity of nearly a quarter of a century at lb (barring the odd season). Ashley Cole would have almost covered that entire gap by himself.
Ngolo Kante - We all know how good he was. Would have replaced an injury ravaged Lucas Leiva. Him, Fabinho and Gini would have been one tough midfield!
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General Football and Sport / Re: Man City - Cheating Bastards on & off the pitch - 115 Charges
« Last post by LFCEmpire on Today at 12:47:41 am »These cheats must get a severe punishment otherwise the Premier League is cooked. Arsenal would be winning their second title in a row and Jurgen would at least have 3 titles under his belt. This is a farce and everyone knows it. I find it funny that the City players can keep up this hunger for titles, they must know deep down its all tainted.
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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Darwin Núñez (Darwin Gabriel Núñez Ribeiro)
« Last post by Historical Fool on Today at 12:47:40 am »Think it went back to the shareholders #booFSG
This is not true
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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Mohamed Salah - Best in the World *
« Last post by Jimmy Raggatip on Today at 12:46:22 am »I don't think it was out of character at all, he's always had this ego bubbling under, he's just never been dropped to have it surface
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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Mohamed Salah - Best in the World *
« Last post by Black Bull Nova on Today at 12:45:46 am »Could easily have been the frustration of a player knowing he might not win a major trophy again.If he'd been in form the last few weeks we might have
Funny how players cover their mouths from lip readers but when we have footage of them not doing so no-one can read the lips
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General Football and Sport / Re: Man City - Cheating Bastards on & off the pitch - 115 Charges
« Last post by Black Bull Nova on Today at 12:42:55 am »Granted, but it's 12 years ago. City hadn't started to completely dominate and were quite flawed in winning that title too. United were also so used to winning that it was almost passé at that point.I don't mind saying I enjoyed that afternoon, years of Ferguson and United made me want them to suffer and the fact that it was City made it better. It was a good game as well, the only exciting game I can remember City being involved in the PL.
There's no way that the more modern United, after a long period in mediocrity, go close and lose out narrowly to the cheats and don't massively kick off about it now. It's a completely different situation and context to 2012.
Though you are right when you say we loved it then and we'd probably love it again if we're being honest. Despite City being the worst thing that ever happened to the game.
I'm well over it now, nobody really knew what was going on then and they still had players like Lescott, Balotelli, Richards, Milner so it did not quite feel like they were cheating at that stage (front stage that is)
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General Football and Sport / Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé
« Last post by PaleBlueDot on Today at 12:42:49 am »Ornstein dropped in the Athletic Podcast a few days ago that Kudus has a release clause. Probably more than the £38m they paid for him but not near Paqueta's £80m release clause. I'd guess somewhere in the £60-65m range. Edwards a massive fan. I would be very surprised if we didn't revisit that this summer and test West Ham.
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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Last post by Andar on Today at 12:41:32 am »What makes Arsenal so good is how good they are out of possession. I remember Arteta in his early days calling us the gold standard off the ball in an interview after we battered them.
For whatever reason, we’re not that anymore and haven’t been in a while, with the make up of the squad and first XI reflecting that. We don’t seem hungry to defend and harry and hustle like we used to… hopefully that comes back. It felt like there was a clear departure from our ‘be the worst team to play against’ model after won the title.
I remember the below comments during 2018ish from Hojberg. We were an absolute machine off the ball and didn't give teams a sniff. It was pure suffocation.
"I played in Germany against Bayern Munich and Dortmund, I played against Manchester City in the Champions League, but I must say this is maybe the best team I have ever played against,"
"It's unbelievable how they move, how they stand, how they work together - it's like a symphony".
I praise Arsenal quite a bit... but a lot of it is envy. It annoys me how they are what we used to be.
We need to start with out 8s not being so wacky with their positioning. No need for them to be so wide at times. Next get a 6 who is a game changer off the ball. It boggles the mind how some claim we don't need a 6 when you have to only look at our rivals and what they get out of Rice and Rodri off the ball, or what we got out of a prime Fabinho in our side between 2018-20.
We also need our CBs to up their intensity in squeezing the play like VVD and Matip used to, or how Saliba and Gabriel are currently doing for Arsenal. We need a CB who is as close to as the young Van Dijk as we can get. We won't find a replica but finding someone close to that is feasible.
That will all in some way help us from not being such a soft touch, and what do you know we will also suddently stop conceding the first goal as much.
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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Last post by Bobinhood on Today at 12:40:42 am »Damn that Mane was good.