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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Planning Permission Submitted
« Reply #1240 on: September 27, 2021, 08:30:22 am »
I`m sorry. 

No problem. Short answer is not in the short term.

The Kop is restricted by Walton Breck Road and despite the views on Skyscraper City it's not going to be diverted. Maybe safe standing will increase capacity and possibly cantilevering back a bit might get a few thousand more.

Kenny Dalglish/Centenary/Kemlyn was enlarged thirty years ago using the same principles as the Main Stand but on a smaller scale. The old Kemlyn stand is now the Lower Centenary and the Upper Centenary was built behind, then a new rood added. It would be difficult to enlarge without complete demolition of the Upper at least. Added to that the ground is constrained on that side by occupied housing.

Corner infills would be difficult to achieve as all stands have stanchions each end supporting the roof. A new cantileverd roof (Dortmund-style) over the whole ground would be needed but the different heights make that complex.

Hope that helps.

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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Planning Permission Submitted
« Reply #1241 on: September 27, 2021, 08:33:37 am »
No problem. Short answer is not in the short term.

The Kop is restricted by Walton Breck Road and despite the views on Skyscraper City it's not going to be diverted. Maybe safe standing will increase capacity and possibly cantilevering back a bit might get a few thousand more.

Kenny Dalglish/Centenary/Kemlyn was enlarged thirty years ago using the same principles as the Main Stand but on a smaller scale. The old Kemlyn stand is now the Lower Centenary and the Upper Centenary was built behind, then a new rood added. It would be difficult to enlarge without complete demolition of the Upper at least. Added to that the ground is constrained on that side by occupied housing.

Corner infills would be difficult to achieve as all stands have stanchions each end supporting the roof. A new cantileverd roof (Dortmund-style) over the whole ground would be needed but the different heights make that complex.

Hope that helps.

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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Planning Permission Submitted
« Reply #1242 on: September 27, 2021, 02:21:02 pm »
Who would have thought it would be possible to condense ten years of us all talking bollocks about the stadium into one reply - where is the fun in that!? 

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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Planning Permission Submitted
« Reply #1243 on: September 27, 2021, 04:09:29 pm »
We'd need to consult Trent if we're going to do anything with corners.
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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Planning Permission Submitted
« Reply #1244 on: September 27, 2021, 04:18:34 pm »
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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Planning Permission Submitted
« Reply #1245 on: September 28, 2021, 02:42:24 pm »
How many ST will they issue out of the 7000 seats do you reckon? :o

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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Planning Permission Submitted
« Reply #1246 on: September 28, 2021, 04:51:18 pm »
How many ST will they issue out of the 7000 seats do you reckon? :o

I'm no authority on this but I'm sure I've read 1-2k somewhere

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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Planning Permission Submitted
« Reply #1247 on: September 29, 2021, 02:46:21 pm »

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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Planning Permission Submitted
« Reply #1249 on: September 30, 2021, 02:47:39 pm »
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Kenny should be wearing a coat at his age

Kind of disappointed we didn’t paint the digger red.
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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Planning Permission Submitted
« Reply #1250 on: September 30, 2021, 02:56:46 pm »
Can't believe our tight-arse owners are making Jurgen work on the new stand as part of his job. FSG out. :no
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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Planning Permission Submitted
« Reply #1251 on: September 30, 2021, 02:57:06 pm »
Poor choice of footwear from Klopp in this weather, it must be said
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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Planning Permission Submitted
« Reply #1252 on: September 30, 2021, 03:19:45 pm »
I just think we’ve made such great progress on the stadium and training ground. Can’t wait to see our capacity at 60k+ plus safe standing ... it’s coming together. Steady progress on a solid long term infrastructure plan is very satisfying and to the credit of the current ownership
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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Planning Permission Submitted
« Reply #1253 on: September 30, 2021, 03:22:15 pm »
I love steel and concrete..the old crew on here posting steel lifts and cladding updates... let it begin
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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Planning Permission Submitted
« Reply #1254 on: September 30, 2021, 03:23:42 pm »
I reckon we will see the steel frame raising within ten days
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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Planning Permission Submitted
« Reply #1255 on: September 30, 2021, 04:34:13 pm »
I love steel and concrete..the old crew on here posting steel lifts and cladding updates... let it begin

So what you’re saying is you’re a…………Steely Fan??
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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Planning Permission Submitted
« Reply #1256 on: September 30, 2021, 04:55:11 pm »
https://mobile.twitter.com/neiljonesgoal/status/1443568381878226954?s=12




Kenny should be wearing a coat at his age

Kind of disappointed we didn’t paint the digger red.

It’s modelling out away kit. FSG never miss a trick.

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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Planning Permission Submitted
« Reply #1257 on: September 30, 2021, 05:14:30 pm »
Poor choice of footwear from Klopp in this weather, it must be said

he’s probably got 50 pairs of them being as Adidas sponsor him  ;D

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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Planning Permission Submitted
« Reply #1258 on: September 30, 2021, 05:28:50 pm »
I reckon we will see the steel frame raising within ten days

Get the weekend out the way and there's no home game for 4 weeks, that should see it really get going.
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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Planning Permission Submitted
« Reply #1259 on: September 30, 2021, 05:43:30 pm »
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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Planning Permission Submitted
« Reply #1260 on: September 30, 2021, 05:46:21 pm »
I just can't believe how smalltime we are.

We had the opportunity to match Everton by painting the digger in club colours and putting a club crest on it to show our intent, but no.  ::)

Another missed opportunity by FSG who clearly don't 'get' us.  :butt

Also, Klopp clearly read the conditions all wrong and wore the wrong footware. Where is the professionalism?

Worrying times.  :-\
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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Planning Permission Submitted
« Reply #1261 on: September 30, 2021, 05:48:43 pm »
I just can't believe how smalltime we are.

We had the opportunity to match Everton by painting the digger in club colours and putting a club crest on it to show our intent, but no.  ::)

Another missed opportunity by FSG who clearly don't 'get' us.  :butt

Also, Klopp clearly read the conditions all wrong and wore the wrong footware. Where is the professionalism?

Worrying times.  :-\

The most embarrassing part is that they got Kloppo to do some digging work, I mean, if ever there was a sign of how skint we are, it has to be that  :-\

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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Planning Permission Submitted
« Reply #1262 on: September 30, 2021, 05:50:01 pm »
I just can't believe how smalltime we are.

We had the opportunity to match Everton by painting the digger in club colours and putting a club crest on it to show our intent, but no.  ::)

Another missed opportunity by FSG who clearly don't 'get' us.  :butt

Also, Klopp clearly read the conditions all wrong and wore the wrong footware. Where is the professionalism?

Worrying times.  :-\

Not a traffic cone in sight either.  What are they thinking over there??
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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Planning Permission Submitted
« Reply #1263 on: September 30, 2021, 07:11:15 pm »
Has the roof come off yet?

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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Planning Permission Submitted
« Reply #1264 on: September 30, 2021, 07:57:38 pm »
Are they re-routing WB road?

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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Planning Permission Submitted
« Reply #1265 on: September 30, 2021, 07:59:02 pm »
No problem. Short answer is not in the short term.

The Kop is restricted by Walton Breck Road and despite the views on Skyscraper City it's not going to be diverted. Maybe safe standing will increase capacity and possibly cantilevering back a bit might get a few thousand more.

Kenny Dalglish/Centenary/Kemlyn was enlarged thirty years ago using the same principles as the Main Stand but on a smaller scale. The old Kemlyn stand is now the Lower Centenary and the Upper Centenary was built behind, then a new rood added. It would be difficult to enlarge without complete demolition of the Upper at least. Added to that the ground is constrained on that side by occupied housing.

Corner infills would be difficult to achieve as all stands have stanchions each end supporting the roof. A new cantileverd roof (Dortmund-style) over the whole ground would be needed but the different heights make that complex.

Hope that helps.

Sensible and logical and is as has always been said here but critically, if everything is done in the right order (as it has been), impossible is nothing.

If it wasn't, we wouldn't even be this far ("there's no way Anfield can be redeveloped...")

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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Planning Permission Submitted
« Reply #1266 on: September 30, 2021, 08:09:07 pm »
The most embarrassing part is that they got Kloppo to do some digging work, I mean, if ever there was a sign of how skint we are, it has to be that  :-\
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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Planning Permission Submitted
« Reply #1267 on: September 30, 2021, 08:26:50 pm »
Has the roof come off yet?
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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Planning Permission Submitted
« Reply #1268 on: September 30, 2021, 08:28:06 pm »
The most embarrassing part is that they got Kloppo to do some digging work, I mean, if ever there was a sign of how skint we are, it has to be that  :-\

And making an OAP work too, bet they threatened to take away the name on the stand, the tight bastards. :wanker
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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Planning Permission Submitted
« Reply #1269 on: September 30, 2021, 09:59:55 pm »
Sensible and logical and is as has always been said here but critically, if everything is done in the right order (as it has been), impossible is nothing.

If it wasn't, we wouldn't even be this far ("there's no way Anfield can be redeveloped...")

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Great to hear from you again Peter.

I agree, nothing is impossible if the correct and measured approach is taken on this. And thus far as you say, the owners have taken the cautious and measured approach that runs in tandem with the careful growth of the club allowing the construction of the new training ground as well as a sustained investment in the first team. It will be very difficult to extend both the Kop and the KDS but I'm sure that the owners will look in to it carefully in the future and assess its feasibility. The safe standing option to be widened to the whole Kop as others have mentioned, will also help add to Anfields atmosphere and noise.

Looking forward to seeing the progress on the ARE over the next 18 months or so.
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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Planning Permission Submitted
« Reply #1270 on: September 30, 2021, 10:01:29 pm »
I just can't believe how smalltime we are.

We had the opportunity to match Everton by painting the digger in club colours and putting a club crest on it to show our intent, but no.  ::)

Another missed opportunity by FSG who clearly don't 'get' us.  :butt

Also, Klopp clearly read the conditions all wrong and wore the wrong footware. Where is the professionalism?

Worrying times.  :-\

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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Planning Permission Submitted
« Reply #1271 on: September 30, 2021, 10:04:19 pm »
https://mobile.twitter.com/neiljonesgoal/status/1443568381878226954?s=12




Kenny should be wearing a coat at his age

Kind of disappointed we didn’t paint the digger red.

Seeing as how Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson lives to ponce around in a hard hat I'm amazed he didn't try to jump in the photo shop.

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« Reply #1272 on: September 30, 2021, 10:57:38 pm »
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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Planning Permission Submitted
« Reply #1273 on: October 1, 2021, 09:12:16 am »
Looking at that video, I think we can see raft foundation pours, piles and plinths; if that is so, then the actual stand is now under construction, and enabling works are complete. Thoughts?

I've done a quick overlay of the Level 00 plan on a screenshot of the drone footage and to me that's just basic enabling works. The concrete pours are probably protection for services

I dont think there's any foundations yet apart from possibly three near the Main Stand. I'll see if I can find the structural scheme in the planning documents and do an other overlay.

Yellow shows the rear elevation of the existing stand, the Anfield Road diversion and the outline of the extension

*edit - I've amended the image as the perspective was slightly out. The areas lower left are on the structural line so could be raft foundations. I'll check the structural scheme. However there is still a lot of foundation work to be done before any steel or concrete is built above ground level.
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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Planning Permission Submitted
« Reply #1274 on: October 1, 2021, 10:07:36 am »
I reckon we will see the steel frame raising within ten days

I'd be surprised. maybe 40 to 50 column bases/piles still to be poured and the whole ground floor slab before any steelwork starts.
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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Planning Permission Submitted
« Reply #1275 on: October 1, 2021, 11:06:59 am »
I've done a quick overlay of the Level 00 plan on a screenshot of the drone footage and to me that's just basic enabling works. The concrete pours are probably protection for services

I dont think there's any foundations yet apart from possibly three near the Main Stand. I'll see if I can find the structural scheme in the planning documents and do an other overlay.

Yellow shows the rear elevation of the existing stand, the Anfield Road diversion and the outline of the extension

*edit - I've amended the image as the perspective was slightly out. The areas lower left are on the structural line so could be raft foundations. I'll check the structural scheme. However there is still a lot of foundation work to be done before any steel or concrete is built above ground level.

Nice one for doing this Alan. It’s a whopper!

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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Planning Permission Submitted
« Reply #1276 on: October 1, 2021, 11:15:10 am »
Nice one for doing this Alan. It’s a whopper!

No problem. There's no structural scheme in the planning application so will have to watch progress and see how they're doing the foundations.
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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Planning Permission Submitted
« Reply #1277 on: October 1, 2021, 12:50:07 pm »
Nice one for doing this Alan. It’s a whopper!

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Re: Anfield Road Extension - Planning Permission Submitted
« Reply #1278 on: October 1, 2021, 12:54:24 pm »
If there's one thing that gets me going on all the club communications and youtubes, it's the 'WE HAVE TO DO PHASE 3 AND 4 BECAUSE THE GROUND WILL LOOK WONKY' wankers. Haaaaaaving said that, it is going to look pretty mental like.

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« Reply #1279 on: October 1, 2021, 01:10:50 pm »
Anfield has looked wonky since 1892:



The Main Stand (left) overshadowing the rest of the stands...

The Kop and the old Main Stand:



The Kemlyn and single tier Anfield Road in the background:



Of the four stands in those pictures only the Kop was completely rebuilt. The Main Stand, Kemlyn and single-tier Anfield Road have all been retained as the lower tiers with new extensions and upper tiers behind.
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Sid Lowe (@sidlowe)
09/03/2011 08:04
Give a man a mask and he will tell the truth, Give a man a user name and he will act like a total twat.
Its all about winning shiny things.