Topic: MATCH PREVIEW: Swansea v Liverpool - Saturday October 1st, 12:30

[Solomon Grundy]

Same for me.

Too much media attention on us this week.

Anything other than 3 Points. Media will start questioning klopp on how he lost concentration etc etc.

I remember us losing against Newcastle after dismantling city at their home. Newcastle were struggling badly that Time.

Swansea did play well against City

 We played Newcastle the game after we smashed Southampton 6-1 not City.

[Solomon Grundy]

But, but he doesn't score away from home.

 Well, that ends this weekend.

[Caligula?]

Good post. Agreed with everything you said about Swansea. Some issues for us too though:

- not very succesful at their ground
- player form lasts 3-5 games, many of our lads have just peaked, we might not be that great than in the last couple games
- Sakho saga most likely not helpfull to dressing room harmony
- Klopp showing all his cards to Goudolin on MNS 

Still, as you said, if we play near our best and score first we should be grand.

I'll concede the first point you made, but the rest are ridiculous. Player form only lasts 3-5 games? They've peaked? Yeah Suarez in 2013-14 peaked after the first 5-7 games for us and was shite after that.    It's still September ffs. As for the Sakho saga, what saga? He just isn't in Klopp's plans and should simply deal with it. I doubt the likes of Lovren, Matip and Klavan who are playing in his place are losing any sleep over it. He isn't going to affect dressing room harmony simply because he's not in the dressing room. And as if Guidolin (if he's even still their manager by then) didn't already know how Klopp is going to set us up and what he expects us to do. Klopp can personally phone him and tell him our starting eleven 3 days in advance, reveal his tactics and in-game approach and we'd still beat them if we play to our level. Why? Because we have the better team and individually are better than them in every position.

That doesn't mean we should get complacent or lose concentration. It's just the truth. Play like we did against Leicester, Chelsea and Hull and we'll beat them comfortably.

[vinothmct]

We played Newcastle the game after we smashed Southampton 6-1 not City.

Well Done

My bad . Checked now it wasn't even the next PL game. I remember saying it means shit winning against city if we cant put Newcastle to the sword.

[PaulF]

 We played Newcastle the game after we smashed Southampton 6-1 not City.

How the hell do you remember stuff like that! (Or anyone)

[RedKenWah]

Good post. Agreed with everything you said about Swansea. Some issues for us too though:

- not very succesful at their ground
- player form lasts 3-5 games, many of our lads have just peaked, we might not be that great than in the last couple games
- Sakho saga most likely not helpfull to dressing room harmony
- Klopp showing all his cards to Goudolin on MNS 

Still, as you said, if we play near our best and score first we should be grand.

 

they aren't issues for us whatsoever. Record at their place is perhaps one but records are there to be broken...

The players "form" isn't an issue, we've got a manager whom will demand the best and if they aren't showing that in training, then they aren't going to be playing in the team. He's proven that in a way with Daniel Sturridge. well not so much form but he wants people training and training consistently, if they do then they're in the side, and if they don't then they miss out.

The "Sakho" saga is not a saga, it's actually pretty straight forward. he's not playing and his attitude needs to improve before he is even considered for selection. I don't think the players are going to be having conversations in the dressing room of "Oh i feel so down, our Mama is not here *sad face emoji* " It's a dog eat dog world out there and they'll be relishing the fact that a player isn't doing all he can to stake a claim for a place in the side.

Klopp on MNF... well just is all i can say to that if one thinks that is really going to be an issue! He didn't reveal that much, and of what he did reveal... it's not exactly ground breaking stuff and it's something that any football fan could figure out after watching replays of a game and i would probably imagine that any football manager whom has access to more specialised technology and also video analysts with whom can break down certain moments of a game and analyse it. 

[dogeibbor]

they aren't issues for us whatsoever. Record at their place is perhaps one but records are there to be broken...

The players "form" isn't an issue, we've got a manager whom will demand the best and if they aren't showing that in training, then they aren't going to be playing in the team. He's proven that in a way with Daniel Sturridge. well not so much form but he wants people training and training consistently, if they do then they're in the side, and if they don't then they miss out.

The "Sakho" saga is not a saga, it's actually pretty straight forward. he's not playing and his attitude needs to improve before he is even considered for selection. I don't think the players are going to be having conversations in the dressing room of "Oh i feel so down, our Mama is not here *sad face emoji* " It's a dog eat dog world out there and they'll be relishing the fact that a player isn't doing all he can to stake a claim for a place in the side.

Klopp on MNF... well just is all i can say to that if one thinks that is really going to be an issue! He didn't reveal that much, and of what he did reveal... it's not exactly ground breaking stuff and it's something that any football fan could figure out after watching replays of a game and i would probably imagine that any football manager whom has access to more specialised technology and also video analysts with whom can break down certain moments of a game and analyse it.

There are only two things that could possibly prevent us from taking the three points: We get complacent or they get really lucky (one of those days)

All things normal, we walk away with three points.

[LallanaInPyjamas]

How the hell do you remember stuff like that! (Or anyone)

It was only 9 months ago!

[the_red_pill]

Same for me.

Too much media attention on us this week.

Anything other than 3 Points. Media will start questioning klopp on how he lost concentration etc etc.

I remember us losing against Newcastle after dismantling city at their home. Newcastle were struggling badly that Time.

Swansea did play well against City

Newcastle had Rafa of course. That was never going to be an easy game or an automatic 3 points; and I do think Rafa's on another level, tactically, to basically everyone else in Europe.

That was never a given. Think in our current form, the only managers in England that stand a good chance of beating us are Pep(with an expensively assembled side though) and Rafa- who can beat anyone using any remotely decent side.

[redk84]

3 points please. Anyway and anyhow....

Swansea won't give it up that easy and we'll have to work for this. Hopefully we will be too much for them in the final third

The form of our attacking players right now and the fact that there's so many of them combining all over the place makes it hard to think we won't score atleast....but you never know if we have one of "those" days in front of goal and then get a sucker punch at the other end.....

Complacency can't be a thing and probably won't be a thing going by the aggression I've seen in our games recently. Am liking it and need to just keep going

Think our first clean sheet of the campaign is due. 2-0 to the redmen

[Funky_Gibbons]

Newcastle had Rafa of course. That was never going to be an easy game or 3 points; and I do think Rafa's on another level, tactically, to basically everyone else.

That was never a given. Think in our current form, the only managers in England that has a good chance of beating us are Pep and Rafa.

Steve McClaren was manager when they beat us last season.

[the_red_pill]

Steve McClaren was manager when they beat us last season.

Oooohhh- that's correct. Dunno how, but for some reason I had them down as losing at Anfield, but winning at St. James. 

[KingOfStrongStyle]

Same for me.

Too much media attention on us this week.

Anything other than 3 Points. Media will start questioning klopp on how he lost concentration etc etc.

I remember us losing against Newcastle after dismantling city at their home. Newcastle were struggling badly that Time.

Swansea did play well against City

The guy who scored two goals against us in that Newcastle game, what team does he play for now 

[jdegner]

How the hell do you remember stuff like that! (Or anyone)

Tough to forget them icy showers we get from time to time after a godly performance.

Look forward seeing Karius getting tested (hope he plays) for the first time properly. Wasn't much work to do for him in the last game.

[Caston]

Tough to forget them icy showers we get from time to time after a godly performance.

Look forward seeing Karius getting tested (hope he plays) for the first time properly. Wasn't much work to do for him in the last game.

Klopp already confirmed he will start this game. Me I hope he isn't tested at all 

[lionel_messias]

The guy who scored two goals against us in that Newcastle game, what team does he play for now 

We sign anyone decent who scores against so.....Clyne, Winaldo, Mane etc

[Jookie]

Swansea haven't been battered by anyone so far this season. Quite a few of their games have been decided by the odd goal.

I think it'll be a close game. They aren't playing well at the moment but they'll raise their game for a home game against one of the big boys. If we are at the top of our game then we'll win. If we slip a notch or 2 from the last few week's performances then a win will be far from inevitable.

Main section dilemmas for Klopp again hinge around what front 3 he goes with. After that it's whether Lovren comes back into the starting XI and who makes the bench.

I'd take a 1-0 win all day long. Set us up nicely going into the international break.

[LallanaInPyjamas]

That was never a given. Think in our current form, the only managers in England that stand a good chance of beating us are Pep(with an expensively assembled side though) and Rafa- who can beat anyone using any remotely decent side.

God you're going to be baffled when one of Pardew or Pulis beats us to join Sean Dyche, aren't you?

[Jookie]

Newcastle had Rafa of course. That was never going to be an easy game or an automatic 3 points; and I do think Rafa's on another level, tactically, to basically everyone else in Europe.

That was never a given. Think in our current form, the only managers in England that stand a good chance of beating us are Pep(with an expensively assembled side though) and Rafa- who can beat anyone using any remotely decent side.

I love Rafa but that's a load of bollocks. Rafa is one of the best tactical managers about. He certainly was when masterminding our European runs between 2004 and 2009.

To say he's a level above everyone else in Europe is hyperbole.

As is your statement about only Pep and Rafa being the only managers that stand a good chance of beating us on current form. We are playing really, really well but we are still beatable. Like every team in the world we have weaknesses that can be exploited. Even on current form.

[Frizzo]

It was only 9 months ago!

Fuck me mate, ONLY 9 months?

I can hardly remember shit that happened this morning.

[LallanaInPyjamas]

Fuck me mate, ONLY 9 months?

I can hardly remember shit that happened this morning.

Haha I'm the same with short-term memory mate, absolutely useless, but guess some of us are better at storing pointless long-term information than others  Especially when it comes to football! I'd rather remember other information better that's for sure.

[Charlie Adams fried egg]

Good post. Agreed with everything you said about Swansea. Some issues for us too though:

- not very succesful at their ground
- player form lasts 3-5 games, many of our lads have just peaked, we might not be that great than in the last couple games
- Sakho saga most likely not helpfull to dressing room harmony
- Klopp showing all his cards to Goudolin on MNS 

Still, as you said, if we play near our best and score first we should be grand.

OK you've got me.
How can you make the comment about form and the Sakho saga when the Sakho saga has coincided with form?
Where does this 3-5 game thing about form come from?
I bet Goudolin couldnt believe his luck when Klopp agreed to go on MNF.
Still, every silver lining has a cloud.

[the_red_pill]

God you're going to be baffled when one of Pardew or Pulis beats us to join Sean Dyche, aren't you?

I love Rafa but that's a load of bollocks. Rafa is one of the best tactical managers about. He certainly was when masterminding our European runs between 2004 and 2009.

To say he's a level above everyone else in Europe is hyperbole.

As is your statement about only Pep and Rafa being the only managers that stand a good chance of beating us on current form. We are playing really, really well but we are still beatable. Like every team in the world we have weaknesses that can be exploited. Even on current form.

"stand a good chance.."
That implies that others just "stand a chance..", right?

Come on- read and comprehend.

Opinions are like arseholes.. and I've just shown you mine. Take a deep breath and savour that smell.

[kcbworth]

We sign anyone decent who scores against so.....Clyne, Winaldo, Mane etc

yeah Andy Carroll, Christian Benteke, Charlie Adam

I think that philosophy may finally be gone now though

[TheSpionKopNC]

yeah Andy Carroll, Christian Benteke, Charlie Adam

I think that philosophy may finally be gone now though

About time.  Glad we moved all 3 of those on.

[jimbo1962]

City to beat spuds as they probably will and we can go second

[jimbo1962]

Better yet if spuds beat city and w ewin we will only be two points off the top

[wige]

I have every intention of doing exactly what the boss said - and staying positive.

We have a very strong 14 to choose from who are all playing out of their skins. A lovely dilemma in choosing from the attacking 4, a fully motivated and well performing midfield and defence. A GK fighting to retain the number 1 spot. We're full of goals, excellent at retaining the ball, brilliant on the counter and even better on the counter counter. Added to that, our new CB pairing(s) are shwing consistent form and we've got two of the best full backs in the league.

If the team performs as it can - we'll win. If they don't but show the fight they have so far, we'll win.

1 nil or 9-0, 2-1 or 5-4. Don't care. Confident that we'll have an 11 that's desperate to go out and fight for every inch.

2-0 to the mighty red men.

11 to start:

Karius/Clyne/Matip/Klavan/Milner/Hendo/Lallana/Wij/Mane/Firmino/Coutinho. Sturridge on by the 70th min at latest.

[RogerTheRed]

Interesting from U23s tonight. Sakho playing so getting chance to prove his fitness and no Ings or TAA??

[Lasardine]

I don't normally do this, but I think we'll beat them comfortably. They've had a bad start, and we've seen when teams get off to a bad start (West Ham), everything just becomes that much harder. Your passes seem like they have the weight of lead on them, and every shot that goes off the boot has a bit more tightness in it. They have lost 4 out of their 6 games and are under a lot of pressure at home. I think we will thrive on that and force them in to mistakes. They've lost to Hull and Leicester, 2 teams who we dispatched quite easily. Chelsea really outplayed them too and they were very fortunate to come away with a draw in that game. But of course, every game is different and they have some decent players. But so have every team we have played so far. Play with the same hunger, intensity and anger as we have been and I really can't see anything other than a win.

Hate to be that guy, but there was a similar feeling going into the Newcastle game last season and we lost 2-0.

Edit: just saw posts above. Echo those points

[BeautifulGame91]

Hate to be that guy, but there was a similar feeling going into the Newcastle game last season and we lost 2-0.

Edit: just saw posts above. Echo those points

TBF Newcastle were an odd one out last year.They picked up points against almost all the big teams but struggled against teams around them.

[KopThat]

It was only May that we lost 3 -1 with a weaker line up and one eye on the Europa League.

They sold Ayew but have Llorente and Fer is pretty handy, but with our pressing and movement we should beat them
by about 3 - 1, but it would be nice to keep a clean sheet.

[Alonso_The_Assassin]

I reserve any confidence for this game as history has shown us to be prone to having a poor result against a smaller or struggling team after a great run.

Go two up by half time then I'll relax.

A little.

2-0 is always a dangerous lead. Just saying....

[Something Worse]

Hoping Sturridge starts. Once he's off the mark I think he'll go on a scoring run.

[Solomon Grundy]

Hate to be that guy, but there was a similar feeling going into the Newcastle game last season and we lost 2-0.

Edit: just saw posts above. Echo those points

We're a different animal this season. We will win.

[Ken-Obi]

We're a different animal this season. We will win.

2-0 half time lead from the Liverpool before we made it 3 - 1, with them leveling it with two on the 60th and 81st. Header from Llorente hitting the post on the 85th that was hit inches wide from the follow up. Penalty-pool goal from Milner on the 89th to win it. Another shot from Swansea hitting the bar that rolled around the front of the goal before it was cleared to Row Z by Matip.

[KopThat]

2-0 half time lead from the Liverpool before we made it 3 - 1, with them leveling it with two on the 60th and 81st. Header from Llorente hitting the post on the 85th that was hit inches wide from the follow up. Penalty-pool goal from Milner on the 89th to win it. Another shot from Swansea hitting the bar that rolled around the front of the goal before it was cleared to Row Z by Matip.

That's a bit vague

[Redcap]

I think we'll surprise everyone with a professional 2-0. Goal late in the first half to break the deadlock - maybe Henderson tapping in after a late run into the box. We then more or less control the game, with one or two near misses at either end. Karius to make a good save to keep out their best chance in the match. In the last 10 minutes we'll score a goal on the break - Origi or Mané.

[TheFlyingScouseman]

Just realised, early kick off on Saturday. A bitch for the fans who have to travel, but hey ho, great for those who like to stay in bed and stream matches

Like Hull, if we're at our best they'll struggle to get out of their half. Only negative I can think off is that whatever the result, we have to wait till after the international break to continue our form.

[PaulF]

yeah Andy Carroll, Christian Benteke, Charlie Adam

I think that philosophy may finally be gone now though

I was going to go with Michael Thomas