Topic: How will life change after Covid-19?

[Ghost Town]

It's already becoming the case over here. My docs won't see you, and this was before Corona, without filling in an e-consult form first so they can then triage you how they think best.

It's a complete pain in the arse to fill out, and asks fucking pointless questions if you're just after a B12 injection which you've done a million times before, but it's not a big step from that to video.

Not heard of that happening round my way. People here still expect docs to put on the rubber gloves and ask you to cough.

[CraigDS]

Not heard of that happening round my way. People here still expect docs to put on the rubber gloves and ask you to cough.

This is a central Liverpool docs.

It doesn't mean they then won't say to come in, but it's to try and prevent the doctors time being taken up by simple things which they don't need to see you for. Makes total sense but the way its done could be improved as the form is tedious.

[soxfan]

It doesn't mean they then won't say to come in, but it's to try and prevent the doctors time being taken up by simple things which they don't need to see you for. Makes total sense but the way its done could be improved as the form is tedious.

Hopefully as this becomes more commonplace, you can sign off on "no changes in medication or unrelated health issues since last visit" instead of having to fill out a new form every time.

[Son of Spion]

I do hope people come to value healthcare a lot more, and especially free health care.

So many people take it for granted to the point of abuse. For instance, even in times of chronic underfunding, so many people will make appointments then simply not bother to turn up or cancel in advance. All this costs money and deprives another patient of an appointment.

It's the same in counselling services. The volume of appointment slots wasted due to people who cannot be arsed to turn up is costly and staggering. Many are conscientious and will message in advance if they can't attend, but so many just don't turn up. Excuses given later can range from ''just didn't feel up to it'', ''had a late night'', ''had to walk the dog instead'', ''the weather was too nice'', ''the weather was crap'' etc... Of course, genuine reasons are acceptable and can be worked around, but many just take the piss out of resources stretched to breaking point and trying to cope with overwhelming demand.

Hopefully, when all this is over, people will understand and appreciate just how precious these resources actually are, and treat them accordingly. Same goes with their use of the GP and NHS in general.

Our healthcare system is the UKs greatest ever achievement. It's such a beautiful thing, and needs to be respected and appreciated fully. That goes for the chronic, ideological underfunders in government too.

[I've been a good boy]

Hygiene will definitely be a big thing for everyone, seeing so many people no walking around in masks and gloves that it's bound to get a few people more mindful about what they touch and how they interact with others. Apart from that, not much will change in the long run. People, especially in this country, are very selfish and narrow minded so it'll be back to normal this time next year.

[Son of Spion]

How long will it be before the likes of Armani, Prada etc start a fashion for very expensive 'designer' face masks? 

[Ghost Town]

Porn just won't be the same with all those face masks and things

[rob1966]

Porn just won't be the same with all those face masks and things

Here's one for Nick

[reddebs]

Here's one for Nick

That a selfie then Rob [emoji12]

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[soxfan]

How long will it be before the likes of Armani, Prada etc start a fashion for very expensive 'designer' face masks? 

It was already happening, especially in Asia. Google it.

[Son of Spion]

It was already happening, especially in Asia. Google it.

I can't say I'm surprised.

Today's paper had a photo of a Prada top ... designed to look like a stab vest. 

[Son of Spion]

Here's one for Nick

Thanks for that, Rob.

I'm on the PC at my mum's. She's sat behind me and now thinks I'm surfing fetish porn sites. 

[reddebs]

Thanks for that, Rob.

I'm on the PC at my mum's. She's sat behind me and now thinks I'm surfing fetish porn sites. 

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[rob1966]

Thanks for that, Rob.

I'm on the PC at my mum's. She's sat behind me and now thinks I'm surfing fetish porn sites. 

[Ghost Town]

Thanks for that, Rob.

I'm on the PC at my mum's. She's sat behind me and now thinks I'm surfing fetish porn sites. 

It just shows what a considerate and dutiful son you are that you restrict your fetish porn searching to when you in your own home 

[soxfan]

Thanks for that, Rob.

I'm on the PC at my mum's. She's sat behind me and now thinks I'm surfing fetish porn sites. 

Let's not disappoint her. Hi Mum of freaky SOP!

[CraigDS]

Thanks for that, Rob.

I'm on the PC at my mum's. She's sat behind me and now thinks I'm surfing fetish porn sites. 

Again.

[Son of Spion]

Let's not disappoint her. Hi Mum of freaky SOP!

FFS Sox. 

I just looked around, and thank goodness my Mum has fallen asleep in the chair. 




PS, I'll PM you later for the address of that site, ok? ) 

[rob1966]

FFS Sox. 

I just looked around, and thank goodness my Mum has fallen asleep in the chair. 




PS, I'll PM you later for the address of that site, ok? ) 

You mean passed out in shock

[Son of Spion]

You mean passed out in shock

You could well be right. 

[Peabee]

I came in here to say that universal basic income may become a reality given the after effects to the economy, but i see you’re all turning to bondage / s&m after all this?

[BarryCrocker]

Well in Dublin for one these properties need to be made in to apartments and houses.

Especially Dublin. But then it will just be the cuckoo funds who get into this and the government will support them with their tax breaks.

[Zlen]

Can’t see much changing at all, at least not permanently. We’ll have a few weeks of ‘post war joy’, then back to usual.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

I've played Fallout 4 so I will be more than ready for going to the shops once this is all over.

[MBL?]

Especially Dublin. But then it will just be the cuckoo funds who get into this and the government will support them with their tax breaks.

I have a three and a half hour commute into Dublin each day that has magically disappeared. There was a push for working from home a few years ago but they seemed to have stopped more doing it until this happened. My first thought a few weeks ago was that there would be a lasting affect on how people work. Can’t remember the figure but it was multiple thousands for each permanent desk in our place when everything was taken into account. Also our lease is up next year so it will be interesting to see how it goes.

[The Bournemouth Red]

Porn just won't be the same with all those face masks and things

People will be bored with poen when this is over.

My friend told me...

[redbyrdz]

I came in here to say that universal basic income may become a reality given the after effects to the economy, but i see you’re all turning to bondage / s&m after all this?

It's Rawk, it obviously escalated 

I'm hoping you're right btw. I actually think one of the biggest problems will be the split between those with a job that can be done from home, and those without. Basic income would mitigate that somewhat, and is probably more cost effective than the current support schemes by the government. (In case this runs longer than 3 months - which I think is likely)

[rob1966]

Maybe one thing to come out of this is people will realise that being unemployed, stuck at home all day, without the money to buy shitloads off amazon is not the jolly jaunt the right wings rags like the Mail will have people believe and is actually a tough life.

[BlackandWhitePaul]

When lockdown is over I'm walking round Newcastle like this   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lyu1KKwC74

[macca007]

Maybe in the US where healthcare is treated like disagreeable side effect to printing money, but can't see it catching on in the UK for a long time yet - unless, of course, our healthcare system goes all US as Trumpy wants

Dont know, my missus gp is doing all appointments by phone. Has said she would like to examine some of her patients but theres quite a few that can get a good outcome by video calls. Its letting gp's see more patients. Any that would need to come in, in the future, could then be asked to attend. Can definitely see it happening more.

Reckon there will be a lot more people working days from home aswell. Got mates who have been told it will happen a lot more as bosses have seen no drop off in productivity. 1 goes into manc most days and will save him at least 2 hours travel time. Means he gets more done at home or goes the gym or even the fact he can cook a proper meal at home and says hes happier for it.

[The Bournemouth Red]

Wasn't sure where to put this, but has anyone had any amusing alternatives in their online shopping?

I ordered some beef and onion slices and got a giant chicken and leek pie instead.

And they only sent three packs of plain chocolate digestives, not four 

[Amatt]

Wasn't sure where to put this, but has anyone had any amusing alternatives in their online shopping?

I ordered some beef and onion slices and got a giant chicken and leek pie instead.

And they only sent three packs of plain chocolate digestives, not four 

Mate of mine ordered cat litter a while back. Had none in stock so got substituted for a pack of nappies. Don’t think that helped that cats toilet situation tho.

[jason67]

What a funny story.

Did either of you get the power pack?

[God's Left Peg]

What a funny story.

Did either of you get the power pack?

"Alan's Funny Stories"

[stoz]

We'll all be far more financially cautious.

Those unnecessary purchases, luxuries, trips, meals out etc...will be cut down on by most of us.

For me, I've been very fortunate in that not only has my job continued as normal, but there has been virtually unlimited overtime last month and at least until the end of this month, which I've taken advantage of. The extra money is enabling me to clear debts, and once that's done, I intend to save as much as I can. I don't have any real savings, so if anything similar happened in the future, I'd potentially be screwed. The situation has been a bit of a wake up call for me.

[Johnny Foreigner]

Cut down on travel.. Not that old - but havent been to china and probably never will. Been travelling to US a lot and enjoyed it; but its going to be long time until the next time.. Domestic holidays. gonna be a lot more outdoors when its possible. install pipe from the local brewery

[redmark]

Commercial landlords all over the world will be shitting themselves. We spend billions a year building glistening phallic symbols for corporations to house their staff in. Now those same staff members are working from home so why spend that money when all you need is a corporate hub, broadband and apps like Zoom. It will be much cheaper when a new staff member joins a business to give them a laptop, free internet and a hardware token then to rent out a workstation in corporate head office in the likes of London, Dublin, New York, Sydney, etc.

There's going to be lots of empty office buildings after this.

This is the most likely significant change. Add to private commercial interests that we will all see benefits from reduced commuter travel, a cleaner environment and lower emissions.

[Lush is the best medicine...]

It's Rawk, it obviously escalated 

I'm hoping you're right btw. I actually think one of the biggest problems will be the split between those with a job that can be done from home, and those without. Basic income would mitigate that somewhat, and is probably more cost effective than the current support schemes by the government. (In case this runs longer than 3 months - which I think is likely)

ubi has to be done right though, if it’s done wrong (ie you’d barely be better off working 40 hours a week in a minimum wage job than doing nothing) then it will fail spectacularly and things like attacks on benefit seekers that have happened the last 20 years would look like small fry compared to what would come there

[Lush is the best medicine...]

Commercial landlords all over the world will be shitting themselves. We spend billions a year building glistening phallic symbols for corporations to house their staff in. Now those same staff members are working from home so why spend that money when all you need is a corporate hub, broadband and apps like Zoom. It will be much cheaper when a new staff member joins a business to give them a laptop, free internet and a hardware token then to rent out a workstation in corporate head office in the likes of London, Dublin, New York, Sydney, etc.

There's going to be lots of empty office buildings after this.

dont think it will be that bad as people still like going into work for the social element/gets you out of the house (I saw one of the girls from the office in the supermarket last week and we barely speak to each other but it was like we were big mates!) but people will generally work more from home as opposed to 100% at home, plus it’s easier to show new people how to do the job when you are sat next to them instead of a screen share

[rafathegaffa83]

This is the most likely significant change. Add to private commercial interests that we will all see benefits from reduced commuter travel, a cleaner environment and lower emissions.

I've often believed that this is the main way to reach global carbon emission targets. There will be a massive clamour for this now following this. Pandora's box has been opened and companies aren't going to be able to say that it can't be done.

A couple of other things I think you'll see:

- Greater emphasis on work-life balance. During of my work's departmental check-in meetings when this first started, more than one person admitted that this was the most time they'd ever spent with their kids outside of going on holiday or weekends. And that was after 48 hours.

- People being forced to actually use their paid sick days (if they have them). We had a guy in our work a few years ago, who had a nagging cough that lasted three months. Probably would have lasted more than a week or two, if the fucker wasn't a martyr who feels the need to work all the time. I think if someone has the slightest cough or cold now, you're going to have to managers pushing for employees to stay at home/work from home until its cleared.

- More delivery options from restaurants. I think the current pick-up, delivery models will likely stay

 - Greater emphasis on small businesses having an online presence. This will really affect small businesses and if you don't have one after this and have somehow managed to survive, you're likely finished unfortunately

- Emphasis on investing in education and healthcare. Politicians calling for cuts to healthcare and education will receive savage criticism however I think some will also use this as an opportunity for a greater role for online education, while overlooking its obvious flaws

- Higher prices for food and basic goods, as companies potentially look to shift away their supply chain from Asia and there becomes an emphasis on higher corporate and wealth taxes with less loopholes

- More automation in response to companies potentially looking to shift their manufacturing from Asia

 - More corporate bailouts. The success of these needs to be tied to  how the company spends state funds. Share buybacks for starters need to be banned as part of receiving any money. Ordinary workers and not executives need to feel tangible benefits. It can't be a repeat of 2008. Otherwise, you'll see a visceral outcry

- Ideally we'll see the end of populism as a result of this and more trust in responsible governments and expertise. That said, it could go the other way if nationalism and closed borders get their way

- The cheap holidays will go as the airlines raise prices

- Superwealthy will buy up loads of stocks/assets at cheap prices like something out of post-Soviet Russia and make significant amounts of money